This is true Jewish people have a very strong stance the Jesus was not God's son but a more akin to a prophet. They also do not like Christmas I've ran into a few older Jewish people during my times in retail that actively hate christmas.
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We don't think he was a prophet either. Honestly, we wouldn't think about him much at all except that a whole lot of people have used him as an excuse to persecute us for a couple thousand years
jun 12, 2025, 12:38 pm • 8 0 • view
jun 12, 2025, 12:47 pm • 3 0 • view
Is it a mixed opnion then where some consider him closer to a prophet where others reject that entirely as well? Which is weird cause Jesus is supposed to be Jewish, so to use him to persecute other Jewish people seems so convoluted to me.
jun 12, 2025, 12:44 pm • 0 0 • view
Not a mixed opinion, either. Jesus held no office within Judaism. He was just this guy who may have existed, may have riffed on some Pharisee teachings, may have been a false messiah, may have starved the hungry by disrupting the Temple sacrifice process.
jun 12, 2025, 12:46 pm • 8 0 • view
Huh wonder why the older lady I talked to made it seem like he was at least thought of closer to a prophet. More so out of curiosity do you have books or anything that you would recommend to someone to delve into about this subject.
jun 12, 2025, 12:49 pm • 0 0 • view
Two possibilities: 1) she didn't want to talk about it anymore and that is usually the easiest way to get past the conversation about Jews and Jesus 2) she isn't super Jewishly literate and she's absorbed the zeitgeist perception based on centuries of people doing #1
jun 12, 2025, 1:01 pm • 7 0 • view
Yeah, Jesus is not a prophet in Judaism, and Jewish theology doesn't think much about him at all. I'd rec an intro book on Judaism and its beliefs, principles, and customs to get started. One website recs a list of them. I might go with #3 or #6, though I've only read #5 myself.
jun 12, 2025, 1:00 pm • 3 0 • view
Thank you very much❤️
jun 12, 2025, 1:15 pm • 2 0 • view
"Jesus was a wise man" is Yiddish for "Please don't murder my family and village." For some, it can become ingrained in the epigenetic trauma markers. As to books, we don't really write books about topics we don't think much about.
jun 12, 2025, 12:53 pm • 6 0 • view
Understood. I appreciate you talking with me. It's a new viewpoint for me and new information to consider.
jun 12, 2025, 12:58 pm • 2 0 • view
I don't know of books either, but there are numerous articles and explainers. It can be hard to find because The Algorithm prefers frequently visited sites and there are orders of magnitude more people visiting sites about Christianity than sites about Judaism.
jun 12, 2025, 1:04 pm • 1 0 • view
myjewishlearning.com is frequently a good place for accessible information.
jun 12, 2025, 1:04 pm • 2 0 • view
Very appreciated, I'll give that a look sometime today. I prefer learning from others if their willing to inform me versus being ignorant of things, so thank you.
jun 12, 2025, 1:14 pm • 2 0 • view
I genuinely appreciate your willingness to learn and openness to information cuz a lot of non-Jewish folks on this app can get pretty hostile if you suggest they're wrong about Judaism.
jun 12, 2025, 2:01 pm • 4 0 • view
The Bible With and Without Jesus by Levine and Brettler is a great book and very readable. uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-...
jun 13, 2025, 7:55 am • 2 0 • view
Yea, I get that. But if you are a Christian then it was a Jewish temple to the same God that would shortly become the Christian God. The point was to replace Judaism with a new religion around Christ. So, depends on your point of view as to whether he had authority or not.
jun 11, 2025, 6:35 pm • 1 0 • view
True, as I get older, I realize religions are just odd in general, but the ones with gods and almighty power are, in general, fascinating. Myth or not, I wouldn't want to piss any cultures god or pantheon off.
jun 11, 2025, 6:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Nope, Jews do not believe Jesus was a prophet, either. You're thinking of Islam.
jun 12, 2025, 12:44 pm • 3 0 • view
Huh, good to know. Thank you.
jun 12, 2025, 12:45 pm • 0 0 • view