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Arieh Kovler @ariehkovler.com

In 1966, England famously beat West Germany 4-2 to win the World Cup. Here are some photos of the crowd. Notice anything?

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aug 27, 2025, 10:39 am • 15 2

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Jim Teeth @drjamesjteeth.bsky.social

I think I see one brown person.

aug 27, 2025, 10:50 am • 0 0 • view
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Eoin Myx @eoinmyxolodian.bsky.social

Who needs Photoshop when you’ve got nail clippers and glue?

aug 27, 2025, 11:05 am • 0 0 • view
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MichiganBlue 💙 @bluemeade7.bsky.social

No women. No brown or black people.

aug 27, 2025, 11:30 am • 1 0 • view
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Gordon Guthrie @foundationsofthedigitalstate.com

no womens toilets = no women

aug 27, 2025, 11:37 am • 3 0 • view
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MichiganBlue 💙 @bluemeade7.bsky.social

People dressed better and were well groomed back then as well. They still cheat us on the toilet supply. 😂🤷‍♀️

aug 27, 2025, 11:40 am • 0 0 • view
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Gordon Guthrie @foundationsofthedigitalstate.com

well the UK got piss equality in 1992 ;-) nominally, the throughput difference between standing up and sitting down still affects it though should be like the Germans and everyone sits down to piss

aug 27, 2025, 12:07 pm • 1 0 • view
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Robert Woolley 🇬🇧🇮🇪 @robertwoolley.bsky.social

Bottom right photo has young black men. Standing at the front.

aug 27, 2025, 11:40 am • 2 0 • view
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MichiganBlue 💙 @bluemeade7.bsky.social

Yes, I saw a few women 500:1 ratio and a black man. USA baseball or hockey in 1966 would have looked pretty much the same.

aug 27, 2025, 11:42 am • 0 0 • view
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Robert Woolley 🇬🇧🇮🇪 @robertwoolley.bsky.social

The most popular sport for Carribbean people would have been cricket. So you would have a very different view for a crowd at an England v West Indies match.

aug 27, 2025, 11:44 am • 2 0 • view
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Robert Woolley 🇬🇧🇮🇪 @robertwoolley.bsky.social

Apologies top right.

aug 27, 2025, 11:40 am • 2 0 • view
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My name is Rich. @mynameisrich.bsky.social

Union jacks and suits. Tally ho!

aug 27, 2025, 11:36 am • 0 0 • view
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Yellow Boy @yellowboy.bsky.social

No mobile phones, living in the moment... /sarc

aug 27, 2025, 11:14 am • 3 0 • view
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Stephen Clayton @stevepclayton.bsky.social

Mixed crowd, not segregated by support?

aug 27, 2025, 11:50 am • 1 0 • view
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Arieh Kovler @ariehkovler.com

Compare the 1990 World Cup in Italy:

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aug 27, 2025, 11:31 am • 6 0 • view
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Arieh Kovler @ariehkovler.com

...and Euro 96 ("Football's Coming Home"), hosted in England.

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aug 27, 2025, 11:38 am • 4 0 • view
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Oliver Stein @olli1001.bsky.social

English "flags" since 1996, not a single one before

aug 27, 2025, 11:48 am • 0 0 • view
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Half Baked Ideas @halfbakedplanning.bsky.social

England played Scotland in the groups, possibly relevant

aug 27, 2025, 12:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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Basically an Honest Bobo in Paradise @boboinparadise.bsky.social

Crowd composition seems a bit different also

aug 27, 2025, 1:47 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kit Bird @kitbird.bsky.social

I think England playing Scotland early on at Euro 96 might have been a factor. Wouldn't make sense to take a Union flag to that game

aug 27, 2025, 12:06 pm • 3 0 • view
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Pervis Purves @darksatanicmills.bsky.social

Same would apply to 'God Save The Queen / King' then?

aug 27, 2025, 12:49 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kit Bird @kitbird.bsky.social

Well that's an interesting rabbit hole. Since the early 90s 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 sing Flower of Scotland with GSTQ/K being the specifically 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 anthem for sporting events. There's a view that 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 should have their own anthem so GSTK can be reserved for events where GB/UK compete as such

aug 27, 2025, 12:58 pm • 1 0 • view
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Pervis Purves @darksatanicmills.bsky.social

Yes, indeed - I guess I was trying to say that it still happens nonetheless. Similarly the England v Scotland group game might have been *a* factor in the prevalence of St George's Cross flags at Euro 96, but, to the best of my recollection, I dont think it was a particularly huge one.

aug 27, 2025, 1:55 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kit Bird @kitbird.bsky.social

Oh yes, I'm not saying it was the only factor (or even a main factor)

aug 27, 2025, 5:09 pm • 1 0 • view
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Simon H @simonh77.bsky.social

I was thinking about this the other day, I'd definitely pin Euro '96 as a turning point. When growing up, it was as a Brit with the Union flag to the fore. That Euros was the first time that the George Cross became a big thing

aug 27, 2025, 1:37 pm • 1 0 • view
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Paul Evans @pauliewaulie.bsky.social

I know that a lot of people are noticing the suits thinking that it meant people were more buttoned up and formal, but in fairness, suits were more fashionable then.

aug 27, 2025, 11:38 am • 0 0 • view
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Éamann Mac Donnchada @almagroschool.bsky.social

widespread use of the St George cross is new and fash adjacent

aug 27, 2025, 10:44 am • 4 0 • view
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DHinrio @dhinrio.bsky.social

Yes to the first, no to the second.

aug 27, 2025, 1:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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randomname99.bsky.social @randomname99.bsky.social

How strange. I have never seen a union Jack at a football game. Excluding Ibrox, obviously.

aug 27, 2025, 12:03 pm • 0 0 • view