Its not even tiktokers fault It's the platform itself It's ANY big platforms fault. You are not allowed to make any mention of death, even to say death is bad.
Its not even tiktokers fault It's the platform itself It's ANY big platforms fault. You are not allowed to make any mention of death, even to say death is bad.
But that's not true. The reality is that they'll censor people regardless, because conservatives can say whatever the fuck and keep on chugging.
Exactly. Language has had to evolve because of mass censorship, people didn't randomly decide to change how we talk about serious topics.
I can understand tiktokers and YouTubers having to work around a shitty censorship algorithm. But someone writing a novel? Do we really have book publishers using ctrl F on first drafts and demanding every mention of Death be changed?
It completely makes sense in character dialogue set in modern times. Language changed to avoid censorship leaks into the language people use in daily life and spreads. Of course it eventually impacts common vernacular. I get people being confused by it at first but I think the anger is misdirected.
Do people actually talk like that IRL?
Most people I'd say no, but if you're someone who makes a lot of tiktoks about current events using the word then I could see it slipping into convos offline just out of habit
They don't need to (yet) as you can't be demonized for something you say with no cameras on (yet)
This is the point I was coming here to make!!!
I’m not angry, it’s just too cringe. I’d have to put the book down and seriously consider if it was for me or not.
Fair to not like the word, honestly I take more issue with the word cringe because I've seen it used to bully folks a lot. Personally I feel like if coded language like unalived makes people uncomfy then the circumstances that created the word is the real issue.
yeah that’s exactly why i dont like the term. i saw it applied to true crime cases including of family too many times to not have a visceral reaction. i hate the term and i hate censorship pf serious things like pdfile for pedophile and grape for rape.
I definitely get hating the term if you hear it from yhe true crime side, a lot of that side of tiktok is not respectful of the families of victims at all. Don't even get me started on the ai recreations of victims telling the victim's stories in 1st person, so dystopian.
There's more tasteful ways to talk around it though, I think stuff like 'unalived' always had a ragebait-y quality to them.
I think calling it ragebaity is disingenuos... there's nothing in "unalived" that's disrespectful. Most people would see it and get the meaning as "no longer alive" pretty quickly. If it makes you angry, maybe unpack that. Anger should be w/ censorship, not how people adapt to censorship.
I would still call it needlessly insensitive We already have long established respectful ways to talk about death. "Passed away", "Moved on", Plenty more im sure Unalived has never been presented in any way other than goofy and evasive because the goal of the word is inherently goofy and evasive
I've gotta disagree with you, when it first started being used it was in response to videos about current events being censored/removed/reach being limited. It's just not true to say it's only been used to be goofy/evasive. Some people use it that way yes but people misuse the usual words as well.
If the word first starting being used to evade censorship then that by definition makes it *evasive* And if you're gonna argue that saying 'unalive' isn't goofy as all hell then I think you're being disingenuous at best
Your phrasing implyied it's evasive to avoid talking about death which is different from my point of it evading censorship. Saying kicked the bucket sounds goofy. Unalived doesnt sound goofy to me, it's a neutral word.
Yeah, jeeze, maybe there's a reason I didn't list *kicked the bucket* as one of the respectful ways to talk about death and that in the context of talking about a serious issue seriously maybe neither of them is a good option
Clearly I was using an example to illustrate the difference between a goofy phrase and a neutral one. And the topic of this is its use in character dialogue in a novel, not mainstream news articles or obituaries.
Except that your initial response was to someone talking about tasteful ways to talk about it, so if you're still implying that even in a novel 'unalived' suddenly becomes a way for a character to tastefully talk about death, I'm saying you're outright wrong.
I did a whole video saying all those words as a test. Wasn't shadowed banned. Did better than most of my videos. It's just censorship through pre-compliance because the worst thing in people's mind would be losing their slim chance at going viral and getting more views.
From what I've read, the words aren't actually known to result in being dropped in the algorithm, though? It's essentially an urban legend.
Pretty much. None of the people pushing this censorship narrative can actually provide any real proof it's happening.