Indeed. But not at the expense of women and girls. Dismantling the protections for women is regressive and sexist. The trans movement needs to get a grip and change tack if they are not to be completely sidelined.

So you are interested in denying transgender people equal rights.

No. They have the same rights as everyone else in the UK ( I can't speak for other countries). The UK has robust equal rights laws for them. What right do you think I am denying them?

Sure sounds like you don't want a transgender woman to use the woman's locker room.

Correct. As they are for women and not men. Men do not have the right to use women's protected spaces. That applies to all men - so no discrimination here.

Trans women are women. So yeah, discrimination there, TERF.

How are these men being discriminated against when they claim to be women?

Are transgender women not women?

Not in the biological sense, not in the legal sense, or in the rational sense - no. Only in the mind of a stark raving mad ideology.

Yeah, okay TERF. Before I mute you, may I ask you a question?

Well, hey now, that wasn’t the question. Do you think they *should* have those rights? Are those laws that you would have voted for?

I support the Equality Act 2010 which is the foundation of trans rights in the UK. As any law, it might be improved, but it gets a fair sense of balance. What rights do you think I am opposed to?

Is that the same law that explicitly recognizes that a person can change their sex?

No law in the UK does that. You can get a bit of paper to say that the law will deem you to be the sex you are not - but that is a different law, and rather redundant now as it does not really apply in any meaningful legal situations.

It certainly does.

What is funny is that it does not recognise a person can change sex - just that some people propose to undergo a process to "reassign their sex". The law is silent on the matter if this can be successful. Just the attempt is required. A classic British compromise.

But as we have seen over the past fee months is that this law is rather redundant now as the law will still treat you as your real sex and not the sex you are futilely trying to become.

Oh my god, you definitely don't understand how to read legislation. That's *hilarious*.

This feels a lot like you not realizing you weren't actually quoting the DSM at me.

I was just making sure you weren’t trying to dodge the question.

And so what rights do you think I am opposed to?

I am pursuing information necessary to make that determination! bsky.app/profile/enga...

How would you protect trans people?

What are we trying to protect them from? I am in the UK and we were one of the first countries to provide employment protections and other equality rights. You cannot discriminate against a man with a "gender reassignment" compared to another man without such a characteristic.

Well, stick with the “spaces“ question. It’s evident that you think trans women should not be allowed to use women’s bathrooms and locker rooms. Is the reverse true, as well?

What do you mean by "the reverse?"

Do you think trans men should not be allowed to use men’s bathrooms and locker rooms?

I have less strong views here as women do not present the same risk to men as men do to women.

This is pertinent to that. Do you think trans men should not be allowed to use men’s bathrooms and locker rooms?

Spinalonga probably has room since 1957... /s