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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Hopefully judges consider ordering the use of outside counsel to independently review citations as a sanction in future cases. That feels like the kind of thing that could have some pain associated with it, particularly if it came along with a publicly filed report of the results.

jul 24, 2025, 1:41 pm • 13 2

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Sean Marotta @smmarotta.bsky.social

"we didn't find any other Gen AI, but, man, these guys are really bad Bluebookers."

jul 24, 2025, 1:42 pm • 11 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

“Parenthetical quote appears in the holding at the cited page, but is immediately followed by ‘The court disagrees’”

jul 24, 2025, 1:53 pm • 9 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

(I once actually caught OC quoting from a case as though it was the holding and not an internal quote from the prevailing party’s brief in the case below, which the appellate court was reversing)

jul 24, 2025, 2:11 pm • 11 0 • view
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Owen Barcala @obarcala.bsky.social

There's a judge in DNM famous for very long opinions where he spends a long time summarizing the briefs and arguments, so it's something I have to watch out for a lot

jul 24, 2025, 2:18 pm • 5 0 • view
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Allen Sumrall @asumrall.bsky.social

As in, you worry OC might be quoting from those sections as authority? Or you worry the judge (my former boss) misquotes from the briefs?

jul 24, 2025, 2:24 pm • 2 0 • view
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Owen Barcala @obarcala.bsky.social

I triple check citations by OC to make sure they're from the ruling instead of the parties' arguments! I've caught it a few times

jul 24, 2025, 2:27 pm • 4 0 • view
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Allen Sumrall @asumrall.bsky.social

Got it. Yes, that makes sense. I see how that’d be a risk.

jul 24, 2025, 2:28 pm • 2 0 • view
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Allen Sumrall @asumrall.bsky.social

👀

jul 24, 2025, 2:20 pm • 3 0 • view
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Sean Marotta @smmarotta.bsky.social

There is a bespoke version of this where you read very old #SCOTUS cases and don't realize that the Reporter used to summarize the parties' arguments before giving the Court's opinion.

jul 24, 2025, 2:16 pm • 12 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Lol

jul 24, 2025, 2:27 pm • 4 0 • view
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Dan Izzo @izzos.us

Ohhhh I had this happen once with an OC, cited a case, directly on point for his argument...except when you flipped to the next page, first line, "We are not persuaded by this reasoning"

jul 24, 2025, 2:12 pm • 7 0 • view