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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Mr. Lundsford is not just a partner at Butler Snow, however. He is in fact a Deputy Attorney General of the State of Alabama, and it was in that capacity that he was defending the Alabama Department of Corrections and supervising the work of the other Butler Snow attorneys on this case.

6. William R. Lunsford Mr. Lunsford stated in his declaration that he did not review the motion for leave to depose and did review the motion to compel. Doc. 194-1 11 9-10. Nevertheless, in accordance with his practice group's ordinary workflow, Mr. Lunsford allowed Mr. Cranford to use his name in the signature block on both motions. See id. 11 9-11; see generally Doc. 200 at 25-26 (discussing how the
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Bribleck @bribleck.bsky.social

I think it’s good actually that the prisons have counsel of this quality

jul 24, 2025, 3:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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cowboyinbrla.bsky.social @cowboyinbrla.bsky.social

That might be true if we could assume every judge and magistrate (not to mention plaintiff's attorneys) can and will perform the checking needed on filings from such counsel. I'm skeptical that such falsehoods will always be caught.

jul 24, 2025, 3:48 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Big, and I cannot stress this enough, oof.

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jul 24, 2025, 3:08 pm • 47 2 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

As you all know, I am not an attorney. But god damn, I am pretty sure these are not words that any attorney wants to see written about them by a Federal judge.

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jul 24, 2025, 3:10 pm • 57 5 • view
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Pwnallthethings @pwnallthethings.bsky.social

Yikes

jul 24, 2025, 3:16 pm • 4 0 • view
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Brenda Johnson @nolo93.bsky.social

The amazing thing about this one is that the law firm actually had a robust internal protocol re AI use that was designed to prevent this, and the attorneys whose conduct was at issue just disregarded it. That did not improve the court's opinion of their conduct.

jul 24, 2025, 3:32 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Oh, yeah — when the OTSC first dropped, Deputy AG Lundsford over here’s first response was to ask if he could just not show up for the hearing. (The court declined.)

First, Mr. Lunsford's request to be excused from the show cause hearing reflected an intense lack of concern for the seriousness of the misconduct that both Plaintiff Johnson and the court had described. See Doc. 188. Either Mr. Lunsford personally reviewed the show cause order and decided to try to skip the hearing despite the accusation of fabricated citations, or he failed to personally review the order and made no effort to evaluate the seriousness of the issue before asking for a pass. Either way, Mr. Lunsford's hasty excuse request troubled the court.
jul 24, 2025, 3:13 pm • 28 3 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Mr. Lundsford’s general approach to citation appears to be “trust me, bro, as I have trusted you.” (The cites are to his own declaration. WILD to imagine putting that shit in writing, yeah?)

Second, after the court denied Mr. Lunsford's request and before the hearing, Mr. Lunsford explained in his declaration his ordinary practices and his team's workflow. See Doc. 194-1. He stated that this
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J to the @jtothe.bsky.social

I'm not even a lawyer, but uh...

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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Here’s Mr. Lundsford’s declaration in full, you can read it for yourself storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

jul 24, 2025, 3:19 pm • 15 1 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

“In any event, Mr. Lunsford made clear that performing (or verifying) legal research for each case is not something that he requires of the team he leads.” Y’ALL.

Third, at the hearing, when the court asked Mr. Lunsford about his use of Al, he explained that because the cases he handles as a deputy attorney general often involve similar facts and law, when the team he leads has a need for legal research in a case, it is their ordinary practice to re-use (apparently without verification) material from filings in other cases. See Doc. 200 at 27. This practice, Mr. Lunsford implied, obviated any need to rely on Al. See id. In any event, Mr. Lunsford made clear that performing (or verifying) legal research for each case is not something that he requires of the team he leads.
jul 24, 2025, 3:22 pm • 28 4 • view
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Eric the Read @emschwar.bsky.social

That is definitely a choice. As a programmer, I always always always double check AI-generated code, but I'm sure it's not as important when it's only someone's freedom on the line.

jul 24, 2025, 3:25 pm • 3 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

“According to Mr. Lunsford's own testimony, he did not make any effort to verify the contents of the motion to compel before authorizing its filing, and it would have been extremely unusual for him to do so.” Damn, your Honor, I didn’t know you could cook

On this factual record, the court has no difficulty finding that Mr. Lunsford bears responsibility for the false statements of law made to the court over his name in the signature block. He acknowledges as much and has apologized. See Doc. 194- 1 11 2, 6-7, 9, 13. Indeed, although Mr. Lunsford did not personally use Al to generate citations and did not personally file the motions at issue, the record does not suggest that he would have done anything differently than Mr. Cranford did, nor that he expected Mr. Cranford to do anything differently. According to Mr. Lunsford's own testimony, he did not make any effort to verify the contents of the motion to compel before authorizing its filing, and it would have been extremely unusual for him to do so. Nor did he require (or even ask) Mr. Cranford or Mr. Reeves, or any other attorney (or person), to undertake that task. Nor was it his practice to require (or ask) that of them.
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Маyhew @mayhewmayhem.bsky.social

This sounds like the standard process - I've never heard of a senior signing lawyer personally verifying the contents of a motion. That said, the signing lawyer should still face discipline - that's the point of the signature, and he should have set up protections to prevent this kind of thing.

jul 24, 2025, 3:46 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

It’s not the standard process where I work, I can tell you that.

jul 24, 2025, 3:48 pm • 1 0 • view
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Маyhew @mayhewmayhem.bsky.social

Huh, are you at a firm or gov/nonprofit? Seems like a hard sell to get a client to pay partner rates for cite checking, but it would certainly prevent this kind of failure.

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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

“Indifference,” “complete personal disinterest,” and “utter disregard for the truth.” Only the best for the Alabama Department of Corrections!

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jul 24, 2025, 3:28 pm • 32 3 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

The court does not approve either of Mr. Lundsford’s attempts to “leave the mess for someone else” nor his “explanation in greater fullness of how very little work he personally puts in to be sure that his team's motions tell the truth”

To be clear, the court's finding in this regard is not simply a harsh inference: when it became apparent that multiple motions with his name in the signature block contained fabricated citations, Mr. Lunsford's nearly immediate response was to try to skip the show cause hearing and leave the mess for someone else. And when the court compelled him to appear at the hearing, he paired his apology with an explanation in greater fullness of how very little work he personally puts in to be sure that his team's motions tell the truth. This cannot be how litigators, particularly seasoned ones, practice in federal court or run their teams. Accordingly, the court will impose an appropriate sanction under its inherent authority.
jul 24, 2025, 3:34 pm • 28 0 • view
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Kathryn Tewson @kathryntewson.bsky.social

Mr. Lundsford, by the by, “remains the Attorney General’s counsel of choice.”

D. Office of the Alabama Attorney General Attorney Brad Chynoweth attended the show cause hearing on behalf of the Alabama Attorney General. Doc. 200 at 7. He expressed that his office is
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Andrew Rothstein @asrothstein.bsky.social

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Andrew Rothstein @asrothstein.bsky.social

Not sure if I should go with a "please shut up" gif or a gif about bad lawyering. This is very much saying you couldn't have committed the murder because you were doing a bankrobbery in another state that day.

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David Manning @photodave219.fightins.online

Oh he’s toast. Ooooofffff

jul 24, 2025, 3:17 pm • 0 0 • view
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Crary @crary.bsky.social

Yeah. I think we're seeing a systemic (though not ubiquitous!) failing of the legal world being dramatically exposed.

jul 24, 2025, 3:10 pm • 3 1 • view