The other day I was tallying up the ways in which that man’s elevation to power has made my specific life worse. And then just about exploding with frustration that people who claim to care about me helped reelect him.
The other day I was tallying up the ways in which that man’s elevation to power has made my specific life worse. And then just about exploding with frustration that people who claim to care about me helped reelect him.
Same. Still trying to determine if those relationships will last. They’re seriously damaged and with the cruelty being shown now, they mag be impossible to salvage
May
I recently had someone try to “shame” me for letting “politics” hurt our friendship. Are you f’ing kidding me? 🤦♀️
I dumped several friends. In January, it was no longer just a “difference of opinion.”
Not politics, ethics.
Remind them it's not, politics, its morals!
I have always believed that reasonable people can disagree about politics, but this isn't politics. This is basic humanity, ethics, (and the survival of The Constitution). And yeah, I do choose my friends based on a common set of values so...those friendships are done.
i am with you.
Friendships have to have some commonality in values. If my friend turns out to be a bigot and a cruel person, then why are we friends?
Indeed
Exactly.
100%. I have zero maga friends. The problem for me is, it’s my mother. Remarried a faux news addict. Since the kidnappings have started, the relationship is hanging by a thread. I’m starting to see that similar values apply to family as well.
completely.
Exactly, Elizabeth.
That is someone with a guilty conscience
We are apparently at the “time to make up with your right wing family” part of the program. At this late date.
"a guilty conscience" A rara avis these days.
A guilty conscience? No - they don't like being shamed for being too lazy or stupid to be an informed citizen. They have no idea what is going on, and worse, they have no desire to know. Only until the frying pan slaps them upside of their heads.
I have had to repeat this to several former friends “It’s not your politics. It’s your lack of empathy, and voting for a person who makes fun of the disabled. Having a father who lived with Polio, and an autistic son means we are no longer friends of any kind. Your character is insufficient.“
They don’t want the consequences. You’re better off.
I’m sorry, I know you mean well by saying this, but, “You’re better off,” isn’t really any different from, “It’s all part of God’s plan,” in terms of being helpful to someone who’s upset over a lost or strained relationship. Better to mourn with those who mourn.
Totally get it. I did mean to be supportive. But I had a looooong time friend walk away from me recently as well (different reasons), and, yeah agree it’s not the right take. Sorry about that. Keep the faith.
No worries, friend. I’m sorry you lost your friendship. That’s hard for any reason.
Tell them you’ll be friends with them again when he releases the Epstein files! 😁
Struggling here too. Some are crazy defensive! Showing the cult behaviors. I miss the days when politics were boring and never came up in friend and family conversations- back before Trump and Faux News division propaganda.
Yes this. It’s difficult to even have a sensible conversation
A perfectly reasonable thing to say if politics were no more consequential than which sports team is your favorite. Or even if both sides were generally acting in good faith. Neither of which is currently applicable.
Exactly
Same! Someone Ive known since we were 12, who stopped talking to ME in 2016 cuz I said Trump sucked. We reconnected spring 2024. We avoided discussing politics but she couldnt stop herself from using their lingo but was also love bombing me. I politely asked for space after the election & she was 😡
In their hearts, they know they're wrong.
Best Goldwater reference of the day.
Trump voters are gullible. PT Barnum would have had a field day.
It’s hard having my only living siblings being pro trump. I feel very torn in continuing my relationships with them.
I feel this. It’s much harder to break up with family.
I am.holding on to them by a thread.
Same. Hang in there
Thanks you too.
Brain is where they need to know they're wrong. Heart tells you to buy flowers on Valentines Day. Heart tells you to rescue a cat from the shelter. Unfortunately, science has shown if you put a red hat on monkey it forgets the troop pecking order. And begins to follow the screaming loudmouth.
But being wrong feels so right
Which makes them that much more culpable. There is only one way to stop violence.
They have hearts?
what-hearts.
Many Trump voters in the small Ohio town where I grew up just don’t follow the news. Their lives haven’t changed so they presume he’s doing fine.
Actually had one of the few remaining maga ppl I can tolerate say she doesn’t understand why everyone is upset all the time, “I feel privileged things are going great”. She is privileged… white, financially secure. Okay then, fck everyone else then. 😡
What hearts? These people are empty inside.
Hearts?! 🤣
No loss, they're all racist bigoted scumbags
Similar situation here, I've known her since we were 12. After the '24 election I told her I was taking space from Trump voters. 6 months later she messaged me and said she's given me 6 months (to basically get over it) and that she would really like her friend back. Like in an annoyed way.
What we need scientists to work on now is a shot that makes other people feel empathy or shame. Technology is numbing all of us. You can't shame people into doing the right thing if they have no shame or empathy.