i was a little too young in 2003 but an avid anti iraq war news reader and i dont remember anyone being scared of the draft. when i turned 18 my classmates had never heard of selective service curious what changed if anything
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zoomers seem particularly gullible vis a vis claims they see on tiktok more than once.
jun 23, 2025, 1:26 am • 6 0 • view
normally I am more skeptical of [generational thing] but given that there has been more than one instance of doing finance crimes spawned by tiktok bullshit I'm ummmmmm less than inclined to be charitable to today's 20somethings.
jun 23, 2025, 1:28 am • 4 0 • view
Social media
jun 23, 2025, 1:35 am • 0 0 • view
I was the right age and initially freaked out about being drafted post-9/11 to go to Afghanistan (faded once the direction of the response was “keep consuming, citizens!), but by the time Iraq rolled around it was very clear no draft would be happening
jun 23, 2025, 12:36 pm • 1 0 • view
Right, that makes sense. I guess the consumption is patriotic line is no longer so explicit. But I thought that was because it faded into the background of "just the way the world is" If I'm being charitable, maybe the draft is the only way to visualize the war being a catastrophe for them
jun 23, 2025, 2:07 pm • 0 0 • view
The catastrophes will really be collapses in food systems, flooding, natural disasters. But the war is more salient so I guess this is how you go from the salient thing to the correct intuition about the end of the world?
jun 23, 2025, 2:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Still kind of think that this is a boy coded social hysteria. But there's probably no reason to go around talking about it that way
jun 23, 2025, 2:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, I think that is a lot of it, along with nonsensical things kids and the proverbial median voter believe about politics in general
jun 23, 2025, 3:18 pm • 0 0 • view
The idea that feminists support the draft was popular among Men's Rights Activists about 10-15 years ago. I wonder if it's gone from there to podcast bros like Rogan.
jun 23, 2025, 1:43 am • 0 0 • view
I wonder if school recruiting has gotten more aggressive. We opted out of calls for our high school kids but still received them. They'd come around to the lunch tables and try to chat kids up and then they'd pressure and insult them if they either didn't respond or said no thanks.
jun 23, 2025, 11:18 am • 1 0 • view
I haven't heard about recruiting getting more intense. I do remember reading stories about intense recruiting in schools but didn't experience it personally. Which may be explain my experience. My senior year fb was really new so maybe it would have been different had everyone been posting
jun 23, 2025, 2:12 pm • 1 0 • view
This is from my kids' experience the past four or so years. It seemed an escalation. I didn't experience that in the 90s in high school. But maybe they targeted boys a bit more idk.
jun 23, 2025, 2:17 pm • 0 0 • view
There were a lot of stories in the early 2000s about a dramatic ramp up in recruiting. Not surprised there was little in the '90s. But it certainly could have escalated recently.
jun 23, 2025, 2:20 pm • 1 0 • view
I've noticed advertising
jun 23, 2025, 1:26 am • 0 0 • view
advertising what good or service?
jun 23, 2025, 2:30 am • 0 0 • view
To register. It may be that I have a kid around that age
jun 23, 2025, 2:50 am • 0 0 • view
huh waste of money. they should just draw social security numbers. idk why they make people register in advance. and im not googling it to find the at least somewhat reasonable answer which im sure exists
jun 23, 2025, 2:57 am • 0 0 • view
The selective service system was founded in 1917, so before social security was a thing (I was googling this earlier)
jun 23, 2025, 3:07 am • 0 0 • view
This is an excellent question.
jun 22, 2025, 10:59 pm • 5 0 • view
There was all kinds of fear of a draft around that time. Might not have noticed because it was often the parents more worried than the actual children/young adults. As one of the few in my friend group that didn’t join the National Guard graduating in 01; they got totally screwed though
jun 22, 2025, 11:06 pm • 8 0 • view
i just remember older people doing a lot of discourse about how the war would come to an end really quick if there was a draft. i talked to lots of parents (one of those kids) and never heard anyone bring it up
jun 23, 2025, 2:34 am • 1 0 • view
I guess i remember my aunt explaining that she told my cousin not to register for selective service and she probably wouldn't have noticed had there been no war, but this seemed like a more "homeschooled kids are exempt from the rules" kinda thing
jun 23, 2025, 2:34 am • 2 0 • view
I was 18 in 2003 and I had no fear of a draft, but that was partially because I knew if they ever declared one I would just refuse to go to the point that they'd have to shoot me for desertion.
jun 22, 2025, 11:45 pm • 2 0 • view