Errr, so what? 🤔 They should pay more influencers even more money. Do you really think the army of right-wing disinformation peddlers make their living by picking daisies in the village meadow?
Errr, so what? 🤔 They should pay more influencers even more money. Do you really think the army of right-wing disinformation peddlers make their living by picking daisies in the village meadow?
This. The rightwing has figured out how to build an internet ecosystem while dems flounder in this aspect. And since more people get info online, it's been detrimental. The only problem I have with this specifically is the control that's exerted over what the influencers can say.
I share that view. But faced with the overwhelming flood of right-wing misinformation, can we really afford to be picky? The liberal and left circles tend to waste energy on infighting instead of directing their full firepower against the right’s disinformation.
Sure. Pay to get a better message out. Pay to fact check the disinformation and hate speech. OK. But why hide where the money's coming from? Why control to the letter the message of independent content creators? The subterfuge is the problem.
Is that really our biggest problem? 🤔 Schumer is incompetent and Jeffries has never managed to find a strategy against Trump and his cronies. I’d say both the internal and external opposition have far more urgent matters to deal with. But hey, I’m not the one meant to be coordinating a proper fight.
Its a problem because the Democrats won’t allow them to be critical of things like Israel which are losing positions that the Dems have taken. So if you want to lose yet again this isn’t an issue, but if you want the politician’s feet to be held to the fire until they hold popular opinions it is.
Sorry to break it to you, but right now the American people have far more to lose than just the government’s position on Israel. And frankly, many of those saying “we don’t like Joe Biden’s stance on Israel” either voted for Trump or sat it out — making them partly responsible for the mess we’re in
Alternatively it’s the democrat party’s responsibility to have good policy stances so people will want to vote for them. Keep your mindset and dems WILL lose again.
It's not dems who will lose. It's all of us who will lose.
To add, I think you people are under the mistaken perception that Dems are a foil to conservatives and where we are. They aren’t. They’re a part of the ratchet that has brought us here. Their immigration policy proposals were Republican wet dreams that allowed the ratchet to ICE raids.
They aren’t a foil on foreign policy. They aren’t a foil on Medicare for all. They don’t offer a differing stance on free education for all. There is not a single thing dems are doing that is a real foil to republicans. So if Dems don’t change, they will lose, and we all lose. They’d better change
Mate, let me spell it out: if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. But sure, carry on with your infighting while the rest of us just ignore you dimwits.
Then Dems better consider that.
Everyone who wants life to not suck should pull their head out of their ass and consider not being an idiot. I have no hope of that happening though.
Welcome into the Trump enabler club 👏👏👏👏
EXACTLY
I genuinely feel sorry for you. You wallow in selfish self-righteousness while America slides into authoritarian rule, yet you cling to your pet agenda. You’ve learned nothing from the Weimar Republic or the Chinese civil wars. In the end, you’ve become Trump’s second strongest ally. Congratulations
I genuinely feel sorry for you. You stand for absolutely fucking nothing and want everyone to be as morally void as you so you don’t feel alone.
Mate, no one’s interested in your little self-righteous ego trip that landed us with Trump. You’re out of context, out of the debate, out of relevance. Go home and enjoy your vanity parade at the expense of American lives.
Is dark money and a lack of transparency with who's paying for political influence with our party and our politicians our biggest problem? Is not being able to trust where the message is coming from and if the message is accurate a problem? Yeah. It's definitely up there.
Wow, glad you see it that way. Until two minutes ago I thought the creeping coup in the US was the main problem. But hey, if we’d rather fret over a bit of infighting while Donny grabs the country, so be it.
Well, a person can recognize more than one issue inherent in a problem. You can have a multimodal fret approach to our current state. It's also possible to look at underlying and long term implications of a thing. At some point, we have to look at how we got here. And what comes next.
Well, I’d go with terms like “first”, “urgent”, or “democracy-shattering”. But if you’d rather stay lofty while the ground is pulled from under your feet by right wing goons, be my guest. That’s how the Democrats kept losing. Forgive me if I and some other folks don’t join that masochistic trip.
LOL. OK, sorry for the fall of democracy, I guess
Yes, I get it – you’d rather focus on infighting among liberals and the left with differing views. Very helpful.
Agree, we can't do the "when they go low, we go high" anymore. Hopefully we can stay above the scum and still defeat the slime but hey, at this point, whatever it takes to secure our democracy. We'll worry about "etiquette" later.
…And you know what really pisses me off? Those blokes waffling on about socialism or Gaza — in their so-called “fight” they never face the fallout of defeat, while Americans, American democracy, and low-income families do. The saloon revolutionaries couldn’t care less; they sit warm and dry.
Exactly — this is about American democracy and the wellbeing of low- and middle-income families. I’m sick to death of hearing saloon revolutionaries claim Gaza matters more than starving kids in Mississippi or migrants all over the US. Gaza is extremely important, but America’s future is essential
Are you being paid? Tell the truth.
I didn’t just comment for nothing, I saw you actually care and have a kind heart. Check my last post and you’ll understand. Honestly, we have zero energy left, swear to God, I just wanna rest, seriously.
Yeah, funded by the liberal deep state — but shh, don’t tell anyone!
I think it’s Keir Starmer
do you know Biden & Dems made us the only country in modern history to let criminal overthrowing seditionists off scot free? Extra bonus—same criminals gleefully, fully, publicly announced their plans for all of this. Dems voted FOR their appointments over & over Yeah we got an information problem
Haha incompetent. Do you know wealthy they’ve gotten to be ‘incompetent’? And if you don’t know, then you should know the media you’re consuming isn’t telling you shit and that’s worked perfect
Wow, I’m sooo flattered 🥰 you’re stalking my feed, comrade. ♥️
Oh you’re silly. You flooded a thread I read and as a number of other people pointed out, you confidently say streams of wrong shit Including the above
Sure, comrade. Anyway, thanks for stalking me. 🥰♥️
Yes when ‘picky’ means billionaire interests that already run the Dem Party, have us fully partnered in genocide, surveillance, police state, vast corruption, worst healthcare in developed world, praising ice, discarding trans people and more as their agend also controlling information for $ Jfc
Well, that’s worked a treat so far, hasn’t it? You geniuses gave us Trump — but apparently that seems just fine for you. But sure, carry on with your cosy saloon socialism at the expense of the American people. You get to feel righteous while they get screwed. Cracking outcome, comrade.
Why are they doing it secretly?
That’s your big question? While kids get snatched by ICE from playgrounds, federal workers are sacked, the CDC’s torn apart, Putin gets a free pass, Trump going for a third term, and low-income families lose healthcare and face higher taxes? Really? Go get yourself some help.
Yeah like all those other problems caused by anonymously funded million and billionaire money so I'm asking why you're okay with them potentially doing the same thing with useless pundits that get paid to, for example, not discuss big topics relevant to voters like the genocide
Not a "big question" either, pretty simple one you for some reason don't want to answer
Yeah, fair enough — you’re into Trump, we’re trying to get rid of him. Not exactly a “big question,” is it? Now jog on, MAGA boy.
I have single payer healthcare here in Canada :) I want it for you guys too, even if you're all this stupid and aggro
Oh wait you're a fucking Brit accusing me of being MAGA? Jesus even non-USain are getting their moron sickness
Breaks my heart buddy but don't wank too hard over it. Now bugger off or start attacking other members of the Trump opposition.
Buddy, I’ve no issue if you’d rather like to see Trump in power — I’m sure he’ll deliver all your political dreams. Until then, bugger off.
The problem is that they're paying liberal influencers to silence the left. Dems always fight the left, then roll over for the right.
The problem is that the left spends more time attacking liberals than confronting the far right. Whether that’s because it’s easier, or because the far left and far right share certain traits, I can’t say – but I don’t like either.
The dems always shut out the left. Look at what they did to Bernie twice. The left is fighting back because the dems are bending over for the right. Hakeem Jeffries went to cry to the same people who donated to Trump earlier this year. They're not serious about anything other than money and power.
Ridiculous Kindergarten games. And besides, it hasn’t really delivered much for “the left.” Honestly, for me it seems it’s far easier for "the left" to bash liberals already on the defensive than to take on the hard right.
The Blue dog dems, aka Liberals, are establishment statues quo, APAC shills, pro Capitalism, complicit with fighting fascism = Blue MAGA
The game come from the people trying to hide there true intent. The political landscape has shifted drastically in my 42 years. Dems are shifting farther right with the GOP going full Fascism and the Far Left is still fighting for social programs and for the good of all people.
If you see more name calling its cuz we are fed up of not being heard, because we give our money to people that don't take money from shady places or follow a script like the propaganda machine.
Sure..., Viva la revolution, comrade!
That’s just lazy, I’m a Progressive a Democratic Socialist. There is a difference, DS focuses on worker empowerment and social programs within a democratic system, while communism is a more radical, overarching system that includes the eventual abolition of the state and private property. ANTIFA DSA
Oh, you're just a stupid person. Nevermind your embarrassing course of actions makes sense. Liberals empower the far right. You might want to check where the overton window's at because the vast majority of people in America are right of center whether they realize it or not.
As said, “Socialists” haven’t won a single election in Western countries, your programs and manifests are fancy but never get a majority— but instead realising that your battles against moderates and liberals is splintering the opposition and hands power to right-wing populists. Welcome to reality.
Every flag in your profile name makes your comment even funnier.
Sure thing, mate — viva la revolución! Got your ticket booked to La Paz, Beijing, or Pyongyang yet? They could really use you there, pal. 🤣🤣
I'm sure that made a lot of sense in your head
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