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W.H. Arthur RPG—Mud Ghost Estate Redux🔜Kickstarter @wharthur.bsky.social

It does say Rogue-"like". They're just name dropping Rogue as it's the biggest, most popular & most famous system to help people find the section. I agree that "procedurally generated" or something would be better, but I totally get why they're using Rogue's name here. It's really not that deep.

sep 14, 2025, 6:14 pm • 4 0

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Liz Henwood @pipsissiwa.bsky.social

/sigh Missing my point entirely and being snitty. Very constructive. A better comparison is if it said "Rogue-Likes and Similar", so a mix, and I'd be fine, just as I am fine with "D&D *and* Gaming" containing all TT RPGs. /shrug.

sep 14, 2025, 6:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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W.H. Arthur RPG—Mud Ghost Estate Redux🔜Kickstarter @wharthur.bsky.social

They have "Boardgames", and some sub-categories such as "two-player boardgames" in the shop. I don't act like a contrarian when you explain why games with procedurally generated levels and permadeath shouldn't call themselves rogue-likes because I know it's something you care about.

sep 14, 2025, 6:32 pm • 2 0 • view
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W.H. Arthur RPG—Mud Ghost Estate Redux🔜Kickstarter @wharthur.bsky.social

And you should know that not lumping all TTRPGs with D&D is something I care about.

sep 14, 2025, 6:32 pm • 1 0 • view
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Liz Henwood @pipsissiwa.bsky.social

Of course I do. However that's not what your post said. If you'd said something about lumping everything else together under "and gaming" being unfair, then I would have agreed. I disagreed because you said that the sign suggested they were all D&D, which it clearly doesn't.

sep 14, 2025, 6:39 pm • 0 0 • view
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W.H. Arthur RPG—Mud Ghost Estate Redux🔜Kickstarter @wharthur.bsky.social

The original post has a clown emoji to indicate a degree of sarcasm. But then you mention that general bookstores are allowed to miscategorise things. After that, the argument has drifted away from the accuracy of my original post.

sep 14, 2025, 6:51 pm • 1 0 • view
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Liz Henwood @pipsissiwa.bsky.social

Clown usually means stupidity - I read it that you thought the store was being stupid. I did not say they can miscategorise things. I said that D&D, well known, gets used (as here) to help explain a category (many don't know more specific terms). It's not a specialist gaming shop.

sep 14, 2025, 7:06 pm • 0 0 • view
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Liz Henwood @pipsissiwa.bsky.social

The "& Gaming" means nothing is miscategorised. All I did (beyond being confused by what you said your OP) was suggest why they've name dropped D&D. Whether they should do that is a different argument. If this was in a specialist shop I'd be unhappy, but in a general bookshop... /shrug.

sep 14, 2025, 7:06 pm • 0 0 • view
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Liz Henwood @pipsissiwa.bsky.social

Ultimately, they have not done what you claimed they had in your post, and that's all I've argued, besides offering reasons why D&D got a name drop.

sep 14, 2025, 7:06 pm • 0 0 • view
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W.H. Arthur RPG—Mud Ghost Estate Redux🔜Kickstarter @wharthur.bsky.social

The original post ulitlised hyperbole and sarcasm. It is belittling to have a whole medium being minimised to its most popular example. Other than CLANK, all the games are TTRPGs or TTRPG-adjacent (Gloomhaven is a dungeon crawler). They literally wanted to say TTRPG and decided not to. 🤷🏻

sep 14, 2025, 7:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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Liz Henwood @pipsissiwa.bsky.social

I'm not being contrarian, I genuinely disagree with the premiss of your orginal post as you phrased it. I agree, lumping it all together isn't great, but that's not what you said. Your argument as you presented it would have been valid if it just said D&D on the sign but it doesn't.

sep 14, 2025, 6:41 pm • 0 0 • view
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Liz Henwood @pipsissiwa.bsky.social

To use your analogy: If it said "Roguelikes" and there were non roguelike games I'd be annoyed. But if it said "Roguelikes and Gaming", and there were non Roguelikes, i'd be fine as that would be accurate. I wouldn't suggest they were claiming the non-roguelikes were roguelikes in that scenaio.

sep 14, 2025, 6:49 pm • 1 0 • view