By this logic getting socialized medicine gets us even further right because that would be more harm reduction than the ACA and harm reduction is bad.

Lmao okay dude

Why is that different it’s literally harm reduction and you said that makes us further right.

Lmao I don’t think universal health care is harm reduction, I think it’s actual good policy. I don’t agree that it’s the same as harm reduction, harm reduction policy’s don’t solve problems, they are just bandaids.

What threshold makes something stop being harm reduction as opposed to “good policy” because it seems like the only difference is “we reduced the harm even less” and it’s good now “It’s even easier to get medicine” > “it’s easier to get medicine” but how is this not more of the thing you don’t like

If the policy is just something to kick the can and doesn’t really accomplish anything but making things marginally better, it’s bullshit. Policy that doesn’t put a bandaid on people’s problems and actual fixes them is good.

Okay so to make sure I'm clear here. Fixing it forever > not fixing it at all > fixing it somewhat appears to be what you're arguing.

Sure if you’re being purposely obtuse, I’m saying we shouldn’t be fighting for half measures. We should be fighting for what we deserve.

It's not being obtuse. I already said I want to go further. But you said "harm reduction" sends us further to the right, so by definition the ranking I gave has to be correct right? To avoid going further to the right it's better to not do anything unless it's 100% solving everything.

Yeah dude whatever you say, that’s what I was saying