I think what I am trying to get across : 1. The argument about temperatures about a burning item is vaguely silly, even if temperatures and exact measurements are truth, proving it happened in the news item is fairly difficult, so there is lots of room for debate.
I agree. It is silly. And yet we're in an entire thread about this silliness. And there is no "room for debate". It's silly. It didn't happen. It's like saying that the car exploded in a nuclear reaction. It makes anyone who says it and anyone who shares it look like a conspiracist moron.
Lithium-ion batteries burn at 700-1000°C (1300-1800°F). www.britsafe.org/safety-manag... You might *in an electric arc inside a cell* hit well higher temperatures, but that has nothing to do with the *flame temperature* outside the cell. And that heat falls dramatically with distance.
EV fires spread *slower* and reach *lower* peak temperatures than ICE vehicle fires. Which burn a giant tank full of a substance that was *literally chosen for how energetically it burns*. They're also far rarer than ICE vehicle files, despite the nonstop media coverage they get.
An ICE vehicle catches on fire *every three minutes* in the US. You hear about approximately 0% of them in the national news. But you probably hear about ~15% of EV fires in the national news, ~30% of Tesla fires, and near-100% of Cybertruck fires. It makes EVs wrongly "feel" dangerous.
And furthermore, most of the energy in a vehicle fire *isn't even from the powertrain*. It's the hundreds of kilograms of plastics in the car that give off most of the energy (and fumes). It's all just so much ignorant bullshit.
The other reason for my response of: "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" was to remind you of the other, very old, "argument" that hopefully you, by now, identified as having the same trajectory.
Whoever has initially posted the article has sufficiently exhausted you - the've riled you up + wasted a lot of time. They're no doubt laughing.
News cycles highlight the unique. Not the mundane. As something becomes commonplace, it is no longer newsworthy. So, ICE car fires are no longer unique, they're mundane - from a News standpoint.
2. Exactly your point - something being sufficiently damaged does not require a melting point being reached. .
This argument from you would argue that the car should have started collapsing at an *even lower temperature* than the already comparably-low temperature of stainless steel.
3. This random screencap looks like a news article, but it could be conspiracy theories and someone trying to stir up anger and frustration - in the same way that the quote stirs up anger and pits truth/angst/lies/inaccuracies of the situation against random Internet strangers