Madonna was also a part of the “no wave” movement & the main record label was ZE records. @wrongtom.bsky.social is, of course, where I got much of this info & this is great listen on ZE & No wave: www.mixcloud.com/wrongtom/ze-...
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I think I'd mark Madonna down as no-wave adjacent. No wave is one of those contentious scenes/genres that most people involved seem to claim they weren't involved in. No by name, no by nature. Some say it died the moment they tried to name it.
sep 8, 2025, 9:49 pm • 1 0 • view
When I interviewed Ike Yard, their drummer Stuart described arriving in NYC in the spring of '78, just in time to catch the end of no wave. I think Madonna arrived after that. She wound up dating their bassist, and rehearsed with her band next door
sep 8, 2025, 9:55 pm • 1 0 • view
It sounds like it's schrodinger's scene! (and how did you end up intervewing Ike Yard? i'm looking them up now)
sep 8, 2025, 10:03 pm • 0 0 • view
I did a piece on them for Bandcamp Daily a while back (the opening line here still makes my teeth itch, and I swear I didn't write "year" twice!) daily.bandcamp.com/features/ike...
sep 8, 2025, 10:10 pm • 2 0 • view
I used some of the interview for this mini doc about how they inspired Madonna's debut single
sep 8, 2025, 10:12 pm • 1 0 • view
That's great! (nb Is it on youtube?)
sep 8, 2025, 10:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Cheers! I think it’s up there
sep 8, 2025, 10:24 pm • 1 0 • view
cool! (will send it on to one of my pals who's a major madge fan)
sep 8, 2025, 10:30 pm • 1 0 • view
😂 Oh excellent, I'll get stuck into this (and i'd just looked up Ike Yard, I like them!)
sep 8, 2025, 10:15 pm • 1 0 • view
Ha! That's a fair point, I defer to you on this, but as you say Madge was definitely in and around it and the Breakfast Club were on ZE weren't they? (admitedly long after she left) (and they seem to have done a version of Drive My Car too, substantially worse than Cristina's!)
sep 8, 2025, 10:00 pm • 0 0 • view
😂 Yeah, a later and very different version of The Breakfast Club recorded for ZE just before they folded. But ZE wasn't really a no wave label, though they did release a Mars 12", and a few later projects by former no-wave artists.
sep 8, 2025, 10:09 pm • 1 0 • view
Here’s the original Cristina track youtu.be/4le9RBAhfhY?...
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Train journey thread ends
sep 8, 2025, 4:36 pm • 2 0 • view
The next track is by Pixeltan, who were a NY 3 piece with 3 EP releases on DFA in the 00s Drummer in Pixletan Hisham Bharoocha seems to have done all sorts, including drumming in & directing this performance by The Boredoms: youtu.be/Vjk01Wo-aEs?...
sep 9, 2025, 7:40 am • 1 0 • view
The next one is LCD & you know about them - after that is Crooked Man who is a consistently fantastic producer & has released on DFA. What I didn’t know was he was also part of “The All Seeing I” who had some big chart hits at the back end of the 90s. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_See...
sep 9, 2025, 12:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Anyway if you haven’t heard it already this Crooked Man re-visit of one of those tracks is the absolute mutts nuts: youtu.be/wWlVyfNKASg?...
sep 9, 2025, 12:20 pm • 4 0 • view
So after that we have Soulwax & you know about them & tiny bit of Moroder, mostly because of The Clash sample on the DJ Pierre remix. Next is Man Power remixing Queen, a great producer from the North East who releases on DFA, but works in all kinds of modes & is always excellent
sep 9, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Then there’s Theus Mago & Curses, this is a 2025 Optimo release - had to include a track from that label: store.dfarecords.com/products/no-...
sep 9, 2025, 4:41 pm • 0 0 • view
& as you may know Keith who founded that label is very unwell - this fundraising comp is well worth checking out: thedarkoutside.bandcamp.com/album/ilx-an...
sep 9, 2025, 4:44 pm • 1 0 • view
Fcukers are another pretty recent NY act carrying on in the lineage from the 80s to now - good set at Glastonbury & extra kudos for the Black Flag t-shirt: youtu.be/Su_Z_Ai41ck?...
sep 9, 2025, 4:49 pm • 1 0 • view
Ian Dury & The Blockheads had to be included, they’re definitely in that post punk disco tradition (Pig Bag another very good candidate) but mostly because this is the first pop song I remember really liking when I was a nipper (Bleaching Agent worth checking too: bleachingagent.bandcamp.com/music)
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Just in time for Bandcamp Tuesday. Great track
sep 9, 2025, 4:43 pm • 1 0 • view
So good!
sep 9, 2025, 4:44 pm • 1 0 • view