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Becca @beccastevens.bsky.social

Maybe you’re stringing words together based on the probability of those words appearing in that order in your training dataset with no understanding of their meaning or context, but I’m pretty confident that’s not how communication works for me and the human people I communicate with.

jun 19, 2025, 4:34 pm • 5 0

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Pekka Lund @pekka.bsky.social

That's not how LLMs work, if you believe so. Their reasoning is based on neural nets that are modeling all kinds of concepts and relationships.

jun 19, 2025, 4:42 pm • 3 0 • view
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Becca @beccastevens.bsky.social

An actual expert elsewhere in this thread already told you you are wrong and Katie is correct. Keep being aggressively wrong if you want to, but I don’t have to agree or even keep talking to you. Have a nice day.

jun 19, 2025, 4:44 pm • 4 0 • view
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Pekka Lund @pekka.bsky.social

Who's that actual expert?

jun 19, 2025, 4:45 pm • 1 0 • view
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EarlGreyTea-hawt @earlgreytea-hawt.bsky.social

You know when I have two people who are experts on a subject and they disagree on a major concept in their field, I tend to go with the one who isn't literally trying to sell me a product with their viewpoint, Pekka.

jun 19, 2025, 7:12 pm • 5 0 • view
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Pekka Lund @pekka.bsky.social

Who are you talking about? What concept? Who's selling a product?

jun 19, 2025, 7:14 pm • 1 0 • view
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unseasoned food (scary) @electricmood.bsky.social

Your initial skeet reply here was quoting a skeet of yours that had a video. I believe that what she meant

jun 19, 2025, 8:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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Pekka Lund @pekka.bsky.social

While Aaronson qualifies as an expert, I don't know what product he's supposedly selling. He spent some time on academic leave working on AI safety research at OpenAI but he's hardly a salesman. AFAIK He's back at the University of Texas at Austin as the director of its Quantum Information Center.

jun 19, 2025, 8:46 pm • 0 0 • view
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Singularity's Bounty e/🇺🇦 @catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

Seriously? Are we talking about the same humans? Have you watched the news lately?

jun 19, 2025, 4:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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Becca @beccastevens.bsky.social

Yes? People being wrong and unethical does not negate what I said. Did you read it??

jun 19, 2025, 4:42 pm • 0 0 • view
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Singularity's Bounty e/🇺🇦 @catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

You are just stringing words together. Go back and read what you wrote and then consider it in the context of current events

jun 19, 2025, 4:43 pm • 0 0 • view
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Becca @beccastevens.bsky.social

If you can’t understand the difference between stringing words together based only on quantitative analysis of word order probability and stringing words together based on qualitative analysis of what those words mean and what your intent is, then you aren’t equipped to have this conversation.

jun 19, 2025, 4:46 pm • 0 0 • view
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Pekka Lund @pekka.bsky.social

That's an example of the former, I presume.

jun 19, 2025, 4:48 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jack Mitcham, Ph.D. @jackmitcham.bsky.social

I'm not jumping into the full context of this back and forth, but I did want to point something out. LLMs aren't a simple Markov Chain. In the attention block of the neural network, it's not working with tokens (or words) directly. It's working with the "meaning" as embedded in vector space.

jun 19, 2025, 5:53 pm • 3 0 • view
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Jack Mitcham, Ph.D. @jackmitcham.bsky.social

Only after it goes through the attention layers does it get decoded into the most likely token. It's an important distinction.

jun 19, 2025, 5:53 pm • 3 0 • view
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Pekka Lund @pekka.bsky.social

I would further highlight how those internal vectors can have thousands of dimensions (+superpositions), representing very deep multidimensional understanding of each token. All those dimensions are reduced into one (by separate transformation matrices) basically just for input/output with us.

jun 19, 2025, 7:28 pm • 1 0 • view
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Singularity's Bounty e/🇺🇦 @catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

As Ilya put it (paraphrasing) "To predict the next token it has to understand"

jun 19, 2025, 6:01 pm • 2 0 • view
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Singularity's Bounty e/🇺🇦 @catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

You're just stringing words together to insult me & kind of wasting my time. I'm sorry you can't apply critical thinking to what you're saying 🤷‍♂️

jun 19, 2025, 4:47 pm • 2 0 • view
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Becca @beccastevens.bsky.social

It’s genuinely concerning to me that you think I’m the one not engaging in critical thinking here.

jun 19, 2025, 4:48 pm • 0 0 • view
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Singularity's Bounty e/🇺🇦 @catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

You can't see it and I'm sorry for you

jun 19, 2025, 4:49 pm • 0 0 • view
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Singularity's Bounty e/🇺🇦 @catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

I mean, you can say "LLMs are limited" and that's true. Any tool has limitations But when you say "LLMs are limited and humans aren't" then you've taken a leap into la-la land

jun 19, 2025, 4:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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Singularity's Bounty e/🇺🇦 @catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

Think about this: what's the counter-point to what you said before? Are you *able* to consider that?

jun 19, 2025, 4:48 pm • 0 0 • view