lots of people can say that, and that we simultaneously screamed at dems to do better. we hate your fucking guts.

Me? What the fuck did I do lmao

Your movement and ideology ran the campaign and blew the election. You literally did what you wanna pin on leftists lmao. Everyone knew being not trump wasn't enough, her own campaign had her down in EVERY SWING STATE and kept doing the same shit. The left had no say.

Apart from being stubbornly ahistorical and punching down?

Dude, arguing with these people is a waste of time. They didn't get the perfect candidate they wanted, so like a child, they stayed home, unleashing fascism on the US. Any rational person saw what was coming if Trump got elected and shouldnt have cared that Harris was a shitty corporate centrist.

No, leftists turned out. The garbage campaign chased away 2 million folks into staying home. I know you feel stupid because you liked the campaign and it lost badly, and you should because you are stupid. You thought being pro genocide was clever and evil but it was stupid and evil. Lost votes.

Yeah nice try with your canned reply but I was not a fan of hers. My grandparents survived the OG Nazis and I saw what was coming with Trump, as did anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of history. I'd have voted for a garbage can of dog shit to keep the fascists out.

Same which is why people were warning the can of dogshit that the genocide and countless campaign fuckups were losing it votes! What's the crime, being right and nobody listening to us?

What kind of person, in the face of Nazis taking over this country, decides to sit back and let it happen? IDGAF about campaign fuckups when Nazis are the other option. I guess that's why you and I will never see eye to eye on this.

I mean you din't care about trump winning if you don't care about the campaign being shit. It's a major factor in why he won! I wanted him to lose so I wanted the campaign to stop fucking up harris who came in with huge popularity and then chased away millions of voters. That's bad, to me!

The campaign did not make the ramifications of the election clear, it told tim walz he had to be nice and humanize jd Vance in the debate and stop using effective attacks like calling them weird. It turned simple easy to understand policies into a wonky mess that made voters tune out.

I don't disagree the campaign was shit. I have 10 pres elections I can actually recall. Campaigns are hot air and always have been. You look at policy, and pick the one that most aligns with what you want. There's no idealism. If a person couldn't see the Nazis this time thats a failing of their own

I mean and the campaign. The dems refused to even use subpoena powers during the jan 6th trials, didn't go after republican lawmakers who helped organize it, they tried to stay friends with the nazis, their behavior informed the public that it wasn't that dire when it was.

You're not telling me anything I don't already know. The Dems fucked up colossally to prevent this during Biden. Garland is to blame as much as anyone. That doesn't mean everyone who could get their hands on a ballot shouldn't have voted against the atrocity that is happening now.

No I'm canadian, I wanted trump to lose. Just voting isn't special champ. I'm sure the people running your favorite campaign voted too, they also happened to blow a billion dollars in donations and kill harris' momentum from when she entered the race. They dragged her down.

shut up dildo

I can, and I agree with what they're saying. The Dems failed to drum up any enthusiasm for people to vote for them by offering up exactly nothing but "we're not quite as bad as the Nazis". What now?

What now is to accept edgy leftists abstaining played a part in Trump winning twice and that the strategy of abstaining voting like it's gonna magically push society to the left is completely dumb

It's not edgy to say her campaign sucked while it was ongoing and actively sucking, that's called being right. You're mad at us for being right? What else is new. Leftists turned out despite the campaign's best efforts to chase them off. 2020 biden Independents got chased away by the campaign

Stubbornly stupid is no way to go through life, dear. #WhyCantSunnyRead

Or you could accept that your party sucks shit and help make a better one But I guess wagging your finger at people six months after the election is over is what you're gonna do instead

It's what the campaign did. Guarantee she's just following their lead, there's probably a thread of her blaming black and Latino men for being genetically misogynistic somewhere. Anything but taking responsibility.

How is giving them no power to do anything while the nazis in the 21st century come back, gonna make a better political party?

What you're doing now, the same thing you did all losing election long, how did that turn out for you? Do you think your recycled any dem voters garbage won any votes or do you think it lost them? Do you usually try to get stuff by trying to annoy people into doing it? YOU lost.

Also Schumer and Jeffries absolutely have the power to be messaging on these ice attacks and the shitty bill for 2026 but they either enjoy them both or they're fucking lazy. Trump kidnapped a guy and tortured him in el Salvador and dem leadership will barely mention it.

No I didn't lose. EVERYONE lost when the nazis came back in the 21st century. Why doesn't anyone attacking me get that?

The Nazis won and the DNC doesn't seem to mind so much, considering they've done and said almost nothing to oppose them After all, Pelosi and Schumer still have mansions to go home to and fat stock portfolios, and Harris is making bank now too But they're definitely worth caping for

Harris is still working with David shor who blew a BILLION DOLLARS of campaign funding single handedly. Who's gonna donate if that sex pest gets back in on the next election?

What power do democrats have right now to do anything to stop him?

lol

More than they're ever going to use

Trump is one of the most malleable dudes ever. Trump is openly scared about how unpopular this bill is even with his own followers. They should be on tv every night hammering a message home and he's acting like he's on vacation.

Wag your finger until all thats left is bones

The limitation to Dems doing anything isn't "power" and you're a complete rube and idiot if you think so. They aren't using the power they *have*, and the fact you don't see that betrays your ignorance in this matter.

What power do they have now?

If Schumer was in a coma there would have been a govt shutdown months ago. Instead he crossed the aisle to work with trump and whip votes in the senate to help overcome arguing Republicans and fund and legitimize his govt. They have power, they're wasting it attacking mamdani instead of trump.

The fact that you can't imagine what they could do really shows how clueless you are about politics period. A minority of Republicans fucked with Obama.a day and night. Schumer isn't getting out of bed to message on this massively unpopular bill. 2026 should be a blowout but he's fucking around.

They have numerous procedural means of slowing down this administration, but they can't even bring themselves to use them for this terrible bill, much less his appointments or other congressional business. Maybe you're too young to remember that Republicans used them all during Obama's presidency

Republicans gave themselves an extra Supreme Court seat by being so shitty! They torpedoed Obama's entire agenda past 2010! They put up every roadblock imaginable! Why the fuck aren't Democrats doing that, and why are you defending their cowardace and inaction?!

Remember the Tea Party a minority of extremely obstinate and vocal politicians who have now basically taken over the country?

No because this person was 19 when Trump 1 got elected and didn't bother to read a FUCKING book before arguing that they know everything.

Buddy what I'm saying is ditch the gerontocracy and help shore up a group of people who actually give a shit about something other than insider trading

Yeah, bruh. Leftists vote extremely reliably for Dems and 2024 was no exception. We don't brag about it for the same reason we don't brag about renewing our driver's license. It's just paperwork. It's not political action. You got an anti-leftist campaign in 2024. Congrats. Hope you enjoyed it.

OK im not talking about anyone who voted for harris?

Yeah you are lmao. You keep saying leftists. Harris' campaign fucked up so badly that if she got every third party vote it wouldn't have saved her. Third party voters also didn't run her garbage campaign btw.

it was sooo oclose. But if she won it would have jus kicked the can down the road. Democrats are going to get worse until it catches up to them. And they dont appear to have learned their lesson yet

They seem very enthusiastic about never learning it. They spent weeks attacking mamdani, one of the most popular new figures just because Israel cried about him winning a primary.

i dont know hm, but after the way they embraced sanders and cortez, im back to the utilitarian litmus test They have to have made enough money to get into politics by doing something liberal things, like hillary. Otherwise les face itm they are just rich kids lying for their parents

yes, its directly proportional to their own corruption. As corrupt as they are, the longer the pretend not to see it, the more they lose. The people at the top love tat, but sooner or later, they lose support

Then you're talking about leftists who didn't vote for Harris which is an electorally insignificant group. They didn't cost anyone the election.

lol if you voted for Biden in the 2024 primary, you voted for Trump 50 times

Remind me again the last time fascism was voted out of power? "But I voted!" cries the liberal as they're packed onto the train alongside every other 'undesirable'.

how would you say your plan of "kill enough of your racial inferiors to save you from fascism" worked out

And how's your plan of letting Trump win twice working out? You brought back the nazis in the 21st century.

Son we've been getting banned for screaming the solution to fascism at the top of our lungs since before you were filling your nappies (solution is measured in caliber), but your Great Leaders built ICE up & handed Trump power, doing fuck-all to stop it. Log off. Go feed some kids & learn to shoot.

You guys ran those campaigns where trump won lmao. Biden won when he was adopting more populist left leaning policies and he even governed pretty well for the first half. Then he got his genocide boner and ran on funding ice more and trying to appease Republicans instead of dem voters.

letting? democrats threatened to kill us like hamas. But we dont even have to go there. They called me a dirty hippie hamas. Hoiw dare they noit run a dirty hippie hamas after calling me one. Id have to be a damned bigot to vote for one of them who isnt a dirty hippie hamas now.

they were never gone! the founding classes of NATO and NASA were actual fucking Nazis! read a book!

Trump being president is as much a leftist plan as it is a Dems plan. That isn't how reality works. You can keep infighting but we'd rather you shut the fuck up with your worthless whining or fight the only war that matters, the class war.

Hey now, leftists never planned to fundraise off of Trump

I'm mostly just pointing out it's fucking stupid to claim outcomes a group didn't want are their fault because they worked towards the opposite and failed. They just wanna waste their lives bitching instead of fixing shit. I don't care what you label yourself, that's worthless.

Lol 100%

Weird you’re blaming the left for Trump instead of Republicans. Just as blue maga usually does. Fish hook theory is real.

wasn't me who brought them back, friend. we just told you that trying to kill enough brown people to save your own skin from fascism wasn't going to work. no need to thank us, just internalize the lesson for the NEXT time you're told to throw some more minorities under the bus.

USAID

looks like killing UNRWA didn't save USAID! if only someone could have told you ahead of time.

God that was so dumb, usa paused payments over lies about usaid and 2 torture confessions. Even Canada, America's dog finally got the report from Israel and was like "this is stupid as hell" and resumed payments. The usa stayed strong in its commitment to genocide though!

Literally the shitty harris campaign did it. She could have won easily if she shed the dead weight.

Yes let me thank the white leftist who brought back the nazis in the 21st century by ensuring the dems defeat. Lmao what a joke

The leftists warned you and the campaign that biden was willing to throw away votes to help Israel commit genocide, that harris could have messaged better on it and won votes even if she lied. And guess what we were RIGHT. You're mad at people for being smarter than you lmao.

Your leftist scolding and glee at shitting on regular dem voters lost the election, the left wasn't anywhere near that campaign.

Harris lost because she lost too much ground to Trump (and the most ground to Trump in the 6 states that flipped) from high educated or less suburban women in households earning between $25k-$50k. Most likely black suburban women looking at the data.

We just literally had the conversation that the left wasn't why Harris lost... (white people generally though, yes).

I seem to recall the left pleading for the Dems to do literally anything other than nominate a blood-soaked war criminal who would almost definitely lose to Donald Trump, but they just kept doing it anyway and lost two out of three times (so far!) That's a Dem problem! Fix your own house!

we did not ensure the dems' defeat, friend. that was the poor stupid bastards who told themselves "no, really, if we stack enough brown corpses high enough, the Republicans -have- to vote for us." this has never worked, and never will. please learn that for next time.

Dude is shocked that someone is doing the exact thing that he did to Palestinians.