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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

... linkedin removed one of my comments saying dhh was a "loud asshole" and that's why Rails had gone down in popularity, saying it went against their Professional Communtiy Guidelines.

aug 11, 2025, 2:43 pm • 167 9

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Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊) @jaredwhite.indieweb.social.ap.brid.gy

@lizthegrey.com he is tho 😲

aug 11, 2025, 3:20 pm • 2 0 • view
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Ian Coldwater 📦💥 @lookitup.baby

She’s right and she should say it

aug 13, 2025, 1:54 pm • 17 0 • view
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Lance Roggendorff @lroggendorff.bsky.social

Wait… hasn’t he self-identified as such? I could’ve sworn… 🤔

aug 12, 2025, 3:58 am • 2 0 • view
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Steve Adams @steve-adams.me

I'd argue that anyone who recognizes this fact is more likely to be a professional, so... I'm not sure, maybe they should update their guidelines

aug 12, 2025, 4:53 am • 2 0 • view
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Phil Hagen @philhagen.com

I think you have to associate the comment to b2b sales for it to pass the LinkedIn filters

aug 11, 2025, 2:47 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jeff Bachtel @jeffbach.bsky.social

"A racecar driver moonlighting as a tech CEO has materially decreased broader interest in Ruby On Rails. Here's what that taught me about b2b SaaS marketing."

aug 11, 2025, 2:53 pm • 13 0 • view
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Joey D'Antoni @joeydantoni.com

did you try adding some emojis and weird text elements to look bold?

aug 11, 2025, 2:48 pm • 2 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

this is, uh, a particularly interesting juxtaposition of who the law binds but does not protect, and who the law protects but does not bind.

aug 11, 2025, 2:45 pm • 85 2 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

I mean, if they're keying on the word "asshole", fine, I could have called him a "brilliant jerk"

aug 11, 2025, 2:49 pm • 53 0 • view
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Simon Lyall @slyall.bsky.social

Switch it to "arsehole" and see if they pick that up. You are Australian now ..

aug 11, 2025, 9:01 pm • 1 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

Speaking of jerkishness... this is from less than 12 hours ago.

xitter @dhh Pulling politics out of open source really is the way to go. This whole
aug 12, 2025, 3:10 am • 79 10 • view
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April aka cyberglot @cyberglot.bsky.social

some people can’t fathom the basics, it seems.

aug 12, 2025, 9:45 am • 2 0 • view
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Jon P (moved) @jdp23-alt.bsky.social

"Pulling queer people out of open source really is the way to go. The whole 'queer people should be tolerated' thing is such a dead end for collaboration with bigoted cis straight people all around the world. Here's what a fascist banned from the project has to say about it."

aug 12, 2025, 4:30 pm • 5 0 • view
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Random QA Guy @vought.bsky.social

What an asshole.

aug 12, 2025, 3:25 am • 3 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

as the New Yorker universal caption says ;) "Christ, what an asshole."

aug 12, 2025, 3:27 am • 6 0 • view
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Random QA Guy @vought.bsky.social

I relate the phrase to Arsians discussing Musk, but it works well here.

aug 12, 2025, 3:37 am • 0 0 • view
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Drew Inglis @drewinglis.com

Honestly, this is one of the best endorsements of NixOS I've ever seen.

aug 12, 2025, 4:22 am • 7 0 • view
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noelwelsh.bsky.social @noelwelsh.bsky.social

Don't forget his company banned politics at work, a self-annulling political act. He has a very poor understanding of what politics is.

aug 12, 2025, 10:03 am • 3 0 • view
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The Raptured Hon @danhon.com

Oh wow, a new tech publication to block/hateread

aug 12, 2025, 4:21 pm • 2 1 • view
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The Raptured Hon @danhon.com

Yep, just confirmed. The Lunduke Journal is definitely a blockable hate read.

aug 12, 2025, 4:27 pm • 9 1 • view
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Jon P (moved) @jdp23-alt.bsky.social

Yeah. He's so horrible he actually got banned from Bluesky!

aug 12, 2025, 4:41 pm • 8 0 • view
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The Raptured Hon @danhon.com

Impressive!

aug 12, 2025, 4:41 pm • 3 0 • view
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Anil Dash @anildash.com

It’s wild, he used to be relatively normal. And then just totally went off the deep end, working himself into a lather.

aug 13, 2025, 1:58 pm • 7 0 • view
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Jak @jaksays.bsky.social

DHH was always a dick, at some point he just decided he was really cool with it and that it was far more important to be a dick than to care about anyone else

aug 12, 2025, 3:11 am • 4 0 • view
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Amy Hoy @amyhoy.bsky.social

don’t think that’s true, having personally dealt with him and my husband was on the rails core team as were several of our friends. and the friends i have who worked at 36signals (yes past tense) were there for years until the sudden turn. it’s something people tell themselves, to feel better

aug 12, 2025, 3:20 am • 2 0 • view
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Jason Forrest @tenlinesofcode.bsky.social

He def seemed to make improvements there for a minute

aug 12, 2025, 3:22 am • 1 0 • view
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Jak @jaksays.bsky.social

I also knew him from the early days, and he was always a dick His whole persona was built on it, he was always sure he was the genius in the room His switch to openly right wing dick wasn't a surprise to anyone

aug 12, 2025, 4:23 am • 0 0 • view
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Amy Hoy @amyhoy.bsky.social

“i have nothing to offer to back up what i’m saying, but i’m right”

aug 12, 2025, 12:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jak @jaksays.bsky.social

You also have nothing to offer, just your own opinion Which is equally valid I stopped thinking DHH was an ok guy around 2009, you think he was ok to around 2019 YMMV

aug 12, 2025, 12:46 pm • 0 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

right. and what I'm objecting to is the sudden turn, and that seems to couple with the exodus from the community and the decline in popularity.

aug 12, 2025, 3:22 am • 2 0 • view
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Amy Hoy @amyhoy.bsky.social

and you’re right. i’m just saying he wasn’t always this way, in reply to the person i replied to

aug 12, 2025, 3:23 am • 1 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

👍

aug 12, 2025, 3:23 am • 1 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

and yet saying so, is in violation of the LinkedIn terms of service, apparently!

aug 12, 2025, 3:15 am • 3 0 • view
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The HJSITFWAP Foundation @hjsitfwap.bsky.social

We will be adding more and more months to pride month until behavior improves

aug 12, 2025, 3:29 am • 4 0 • view
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Amy Hoy @amyhoy.bsky.social

sometimes i imagine how much better web development could be rn if he’d just shut up and code.

aug 12, 2025, 3:13 am • 25 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

seriously, if he's so concerned about merit, he should go back to working on his own thing.

aug 12, 2025, 3:16 am • 17 1 • view
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Jason Forrest @tenlinesofcode.bsky.social

Two things have pushed me away from RoR for future projects: dhh and everything they add feels half baked hmm…

aug 12, 2025, 3:21 am • 8 0 • view
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Amy Hoy @amyhoy.bsky.social

yeah they started fucking it up. honestly i think the asshole behavior is a toxic cope that came after.

aug 12, 2025, 3:23 am • 7 0 • view
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Brandon Weaver @baweaver.bsky.social

As someone who has worked on now three of the largest Rails codebases in the world over the last decade and some change I have _all types_ of opinions on the overall architectural philosophy (or lack thereof) of Rails. See the OP for my opinions on DHH in the quotes.

aug 12, 2025, 3:28 am • 8 0 • view
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Brandon Weaver @baweaver.bsky.social

DHH's organizational philosophy amounts to everything in one giant pile. Once you get to scale with teams that stops working. People start running into each other, ownership becomes unclear, and then builds start breaking everywhere because no one knows about the cascade of dependencies anymore

aug 12, 2025, 3:28 am • 6 0 • view
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Brandon Weaver @baweaver.bsky.social

So then you end up with layers of organizational tools like Packwerk to counter that which take substantial investment to maintain correctly, and even more to get to a reasonable level of operations.

aug 12, 2025, 3:28 am • 2 0 • view
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Amy Hoy @amyhoy.bsky.social

things that are good for some types of projects don’t have to be good at other types of projects

aug 12, 2025, 3:33 am • 0 0 • view
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Amy Hoy @amyhoy.bsky.social

YUP

aug 12, 2025, 3:25 am • 4 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

As expected, LinkedIn has reviewed my appeal and deemed it still to be "hateful conduct".

aug 12, 2025, 4:20 pm • 24 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

not just me saying it now. ruby.social/@getajobmike...

sep 19, 2025, 7:59 pm • 11 1 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

also h/t @tef.bsky.social: bsky.app/profile/tef....

sep 19, 2025, 8:03 pm • 12 0 • view
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Corn Anon @cornanon.bsky.social

While I may refer to it as Professional Furaffinity, it really doesn’t seem to have especially earned the descriptor of “Professional” in my opinion.

aug 13, 2025, 2:04 pm • 1 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

How do you do fellow not user of FA?

aug 13, 2025, 3:55 pm • 1 0 • view
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calicoday.bsky.social @calicoday.bsky.social

I mean, blech.

aug 12, 2025, 3:34 am • 0 0 • view
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Sagittarius A* @sagastar.bsky.social

how did nixos purge conservatives i want to share this with folks as an example to follow :p (probably entirely made up nonsense)

sep 19, 2025, 8:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

enforcing a code of conduct. seriously! just forbidding homophobia and transphobia. shitty people asked Nix to "ban the trans flag as political" and instead they got uno reversed

sep 19, 2025, 8:05 pm • 1 0 • view
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Sagittarius A* @sagastar.bsky.social

hell yeah. love nix even more now.

sep 19, 2025, 8:18 pm • 1 0 • view
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Brandon Downey @bdowney.bsky.social

Perhaps it's my advanced age, but open source is itself a political project? You don't have to agree with the ends, and you can debate its consequences, but ...

aug 12, 2025, 4:21 am • 12 0 • view
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Ian McKellar @ian.mckellar.org

Free Software is political. Open source is a business model.

aug 12, 2025, 5:45 am • 1 0 • view
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Aditya Mukerjee 🦦 🏳️‍🌈 @chimeracoder.bsky.social

Open Source is as political as it gets. It literally began as a political schism within and offshoot of the Free Software movement!

aug 12, 2025, 4:27 pm • 11 1 • view
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Aditya Mukerjee 🦦 🏳️‍🌈 @chimeracoder.bsky.social

The decision to rhetorically prioritize business interests over the stated objectives of the Free Software movement is, at its core, a political move. You can't separate politics from Open Source.

aug 12, 2025, 4:29 pm • 7 1 • view
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Emilia @synecdokey.bsky.social

Imagine quoting Lunduke unironically, that's also quite telling. He's not against politics, just the ones he disagrees with.

aug 12, 2025, 4:07 pm • 7 1 • view
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Aditya Mukerjee 🦦 🏳️‍🌈 @chimeracoder.bsky.social

What is Lunduke?

aug 12, 2025, 4:26 pm • 1 0 • view
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Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真) @lizthegrey.com

It's one of those alt-tech sites espousing anti-wokeism, "meritocracy", and Damore-ism as I understand. Similar to vox day etc bsky.app/profile/danh...

aug 12, 2025, 4:28 pm • 7 1 • view
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Aditya Mukerjee 🦦 🏳️‍🌈 @chimeracoder.bsky.social

aug 12, 2025, 4:30 pm • 1 0 • view
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Anil Dash @anildash.com

The guy used to be news about kind source stuff, then pivoted a few years ago into the most divorced white gut you’ve ever seen in your life.

aug 13, 2025, 1:59 pm • 8 0 • view
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Sarah M. @sarahofswords.bsky.social

accuracy is important though

aug 11, 2025, 9:47 pm • 1 0 • view
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ti zhang @zerochilltea.bsky.social

but is it wrong tho lmao come on linkedin

aug 11, 2025, 11:26 pm • 10 0 • view
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Roy. @nuts0x21.tastefuldinosaurerotica.com

@lizthegrey.com unironically at LinkedIn lol

aug 14, 2025, 12:16 am • 0 0 • view
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voids bunny 🏳️‍⚧️ @voidsbunny.bsky.social

It's true, and you were right to say it.

aug 11, 2025, 2:51 pm • 12 0 • view
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anonymous bosch @kolczyn.ski

Love me some blameful retros

aug 12, 2025, 5:45 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joey D'Antoni @joeydantoni.com

on a serious note, spot on.

aug 11, 2025, 2:48 pm • 3 0 • view