And there's the catch-22. If you say you're a citizen and don't need to comply, they'll say they don't believe you and kidnap you nust like they've been violently kidnapping people who are just going about their day.
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We really need everyone who can reasonably endure the hassle, to reject their efforts on principle and waste their resources by exercising your right to refuse to identify.
aug 21, 2025, 3:21 am • 1 0 • view
Exactly. I really doubt they'd ask me, given where I live and how I look. But if they do, I'm saying hell no. And if they want to arrest me, fine... they'll end up on TV, explaining why they're hassling a retired teacher who looks like everyone's favorite grandma.
aug 21, 2025, 3:25 am • 1 0 • view
Hard agree. I'm a older white guy with a military-brat accent that's been softened by 30 years in CA, a deep knowledge of law and a baritone voice that can take over a room without even trying. Cops call me "sir" when I stare through them. I'd be glad to tell them GFY, but won't get the chance.
aug 21, 2025, 3:34 am • 1 0 • view
Army brat here.
aug 21, 2025, 3:35 am • 0 0 • view
And I'll bet you still know how to turn the voice on when it serves you, yeah?
aug 21, 2025, 3:36 am • 0 0 • view
Yes, I'm not intimidated by a uniform, thanks to being the colonel's daughter 😎, and 31 years of teaching teenagers perfected my don't-fuck-with-me voice.
aug 21, 2025, 3:45 am • 1 0 • view
It's mostly because I now live in a beach town that's 1/3 retirees and 1/3 students, and within 10 miles of a lot of agriculture. People like me are not that interesting to ICE, when there are so many helpless folks picking berries just up the road.
aug 21, 2025, 3:36 am • 1 0 • view
Which is why, if I were anything other than a white guy, I'd start carrying my passport card around. If I were still in DC (I was born there, but haven't lived there in some time), I'd probably carry it around even as a white dude. I'd still refuse to show it, but it would feel better to have it.
aug 21, 2025, 3:01 am • 0 0 • view
Yeah, I'm a late middle-aged white lady, so I'm pretty sure they're not gonna mess with me. But this infuriates me and makes me want to scream and/or punch someone, which isn't productive, but...holy shit, this is dystopian.
aug 21, 2025, 3:14 am • 0 0 • view