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Trump may be required to convey orders "through" the Governor, but the governor has no ability to countermand the order to federalize, that role is purely ministerial. The Guard is actually sworn to both the state and federal government, and federal interests are superior.
Keep your eyes on this, you may be mistaken on actual points of law.
Once the president federalizes the Guard, they work for him. They no longer work for the governor. Period, end of story. Courts have upheld this without any drama every time the issue has come up.
What about their oath to the constitution ?
The Constitution makes the president the CIC. So that's an easy answer.
what about if the president is issuing illegal orders ?
You are responsible for not only your own actions but the actions of those you command. (Unless you're the president.) So while the PFC who shoots a child might get a pardon and some Trump coin, everyone up the chain of command is getting court-martialed.
The ONLY way that the president unilaterally can take over the NG of a state or states is to invoke the Insurrection Act and that law has certain conditions that must be met before it can be invoked.
Federalizing the guard and the Insurrection Act are entirely separate things
Imma bet the freaking ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA understands the law a wee bit better than you.
What the AG says in front of cameras is irrelevant. What the complaint says is what's relevant. The complaint may *argue* that Newsom has to consent to deployment of the Guard, but precedent is against that. oag.ca.gov/news/press-r...
Doesn't the president has to consult with the Govender first ?which trump did not do.
The president must issue the order through the governor. The governor does not have the ability to refuse to convey the order. It's quite possible the court will require the president to specifically issue the order to Newsom. But it doesn't matter. Newsom must convey the order faithfully.
If Newsome can gum things up ..maybe get it into court and get a stay drag it all the way. That might prevent the use of the NG
It's possible, on a good day the Ninth might throw him a bone. SCOTUS will be having none of that though. I'm curious to see the complaint to see what arguments they are using that might actually get some traction.
It also shows there are ways to fight back. So lets wait and see before writing it off
The complaint is online. They are leaning on the "through the governor" verbiage, and on the fact that this deprives California of resources that may be needed immediately in case of emergency -- wildfire in particular. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...
You have that backwards. The GOVERNOR issues the order 👇🏾 And your excuse-making ignorant contrariness has officially bored me. Shoo!
And I'm telling you, the precedent is absolutely clear on this: The governor does not have the option to refuse this request. At the point that the Guard is federalized, the Guard doesn't even answer to the governor. They're not his any longer. Governors have tried this and they always fail.
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A key example of precedent is when Eisenhower sent in the federal troops into the southern states to enforce integration in the universities & school. And don't think that there are not closet Confederates aligned with Trump who are loving this moment.
Eisenhower and LBJ deployed the Guard against the wishes of the respective governors. The precise circumstances this time around are a little different, but what the governor wanted didn't matter in the slightest in those two cases. Trump's factual justification for the need is weak, though.
Not enough characters to get that precisely correct -- in Eisenhower's case, he took the Guard away from the governor who was using it for the purpose of opposing desegregation. LBJ federalized the Alabama Guard after George Wallace's ambivalence and foot-dragging.
Incorrect. The “ask” came from Governors concerned. Drumpf is a criminal. Full stop.
Arkansas Governor Faubus deployed the Guard to *prevent* integration. Eisenhower then invoked the Insurrection Act, sent the 101st Airborne, and federalized the Arkansas National Guard, which then no longer reported to the governor ...
IDGAF what you perceive as “precedent” & neither does dumpstink or its puppeteers. Law is Law. What’s your excuse for USMC now occupying the streets of our 2nd largest city? I detest fascism; I’ll not abide an illegitimate, lawless terrorist or its maniacal “decrees”: www.sacbee.com/news/politic...
The thing is if you're concerned about the rule of law, you should be more concerned about the things that are illegal than the things that are legal. If you're not concerned about the rule of law, then, well, Trump thanks you.
According to @democracynow Newsom had and has the authority to order the national guard to stand down NOW. He does not need a court decision to do it.
I didn't realize this was how the National Guard worked.
Well, Trump is ignoring the law 24/7, hoping whatever he does will stick. Newsom is suing & the court plans to hear the arguments this coming Thursday. Fingers crossed…
Print the portion of the Executive Order followed by why it is UNLAWFUL. Remind the Nazi soldiers claimed they "were following orders" when they were held accountable for breaking laws at Nuremberg Court. FOLLOWING ORDERS is not the same as FOLLOWING THE LAW. Copy and laminate it FOR EVERY SOLDIER.
Remember, all this current ICE stuff, is to distract us from the Trump Tax Bill, which is designed to destroy the middle class. Not to say we should ignore this fight, though. We need to focus on both.
The Obama and Biden administrations focused immigration enforcement on threats to national security and public safety, utilizing a system of legal review and judicial orders for deportations. It was about smart, lawful enforcement, not sweeping, indiscriminate removals that bypass the courts.
Proof
Good. Now, would you please go back and eek a TRO prohibiting the unlawful mobilization of the Marines
National Guard cannot be on both state and federal payrolls, but since they would cease to be NG in case of being singularly fed employed, governors have all the power? Did I misunderstand this?
Meanwhile, You had better get control of the LAPD, who are beating, and using horses to trample citizens of LA!!! LAPD are literally assaulting citizens, and what looks like attempted murder!!! bsky.app/profile/robe...
So what are our elected paid reps going to do about it we need our country back we pay our reps to protect democracy why are they not doing their job we need our money back Our pleas for help fall on deaf ears
So what are our elected paid reps going to do about it we need our country back we pay our reps to protect democracy why are they not doing their job we need our money back Our pleas for help fall on deaf ears
Thank you
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That's right! All accurate!
Um. Duh.
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And it definitely doesn’t allow him to order marines to conduct law enforcement activities on US soil. Time to impeach SECDEF. www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/...
#DrunkPete needs to go as he's a total moron and he CANNOT authorize a deployment of Marines without a LEGAL order from the President. Chump's order is illegal as it does not meet the standard for the Insurrection Act thus Hegseth has NO authority to order a deployment.
Here's some good information. Scroll way down - where they write a state DOES have good standing to prevail here. www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/u...
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The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 is a U.S. federal law that limits the use of federal military personnel in domestic law enforcement, aiming to prevent military interference in civilian affairs. It was enacted in response to the military's involvement during the Reconstruction era
Can a similar suit be filed re: marine deployment?
The governor has no control over the Marines, so, no. Unless the Insurrection Act is invoked, neither Guard nor regular military can do any policing other than limited defense of federal people and property. They'll just be standing around with unloaded weapons trying to look impressive.
I asked it wrong. Not a similar suit but a legal remedy enforcing the Posse Comitatus Act or other restriction on deploying troops on US Soil.
There's no law against deploying troops on US soil. That happens for the purposes of exercises all the time. It's America so you can TRY to sue anyone for anything. Can Newsom sue Trump for creating a provocation with the Marines? Sure, although I don't know what basis he would have for that.
Unloaded - you know that for sure?
They will not be loaded. They may have magazines out (most likely) or use empty magazines (less likely, confusion possible). Soldiers *may* be told to carry a loaded magazine somewhere securely on their person. Or they may not. Basically the rifle is part of the uniform and they have to "wear" it.
thank you
As a rule, soldiers are not trained for law enforcement. They have no idea what law makes something illegal or when that law can be enforced. They do not have civilian use of force training. Even MPs are generally trained only to enforce *military* law.
Mmm…I don’t know about that. I put absolutely nothing past the blood thirsty lunatics in charge of Washington, right now.
Back in DC during 2020 there were all kinds of "troops" in tactical gear in DC. The ones with loaded weapons were sworn law enforcement. There are lots and lots of police with guns in the US. The military is not needed for its guns, just its curb appeal.
If someone gets shot dead in a protest, it's going to be by sworn law enforcement, not a member of the military. The military is very reluctant to do things it is not trained to do. That's the exact opposite of how the military works. The military is not trained for law enforcement.
I stand by my statement.
It is very, very hard to gain rank in the US professional military, and the people willing to throw their careers and freedom away to unlawfully shoot people, when police can do it lawfully, are going to be super, super hard to find.
Have you heard of the Trump Administration? Any military who shoots civilian will be given some kind of medal and a pocket full of Trump Coins.
Go ahead, think that.
Don’t think it at your peril.
Hallelujah
People need to remember Hitler was elected leader also
Has anyone heard from any Republicans slamming this violation by Trump??
Ck them out on fb.
Now we know why they have brought in so many tanks and etc. Flag Day, my tookus! He is dying to destroy America one way or another. And his bromance break up staged. Now we wait.
Call for emergency hearing asap.
If it's unlawful, don't let it happen in the first place. Don't allow him to use the military. Refuse!
We're going to sue so we can continue to make California a shithole place to live
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Yup! 👍🏼 finally that’s the law for all you that said, Trump can override authority over a states governor for their National Guard!
Praise the Lord my prayers are with you.
start arresting trump associates at the state level and charge them under whatever pretext you want that's how trump does it
As per usual, Trump ignores judges’ orders. This is gonna be a long slog. Protesters should be prepared to nonviolently meet up with Law-enforcement. And stick it out.
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@robbonta.bsky.social Dear AG Bonta: You might want to ask where the other so-called Blue State governors are in this tragidrama. Where in the bloom'n fook are other Democratic leaders? Why arn't they here in California supporting us in our fight against the authoritarian take over of our state?
The Nazinal Guard couldn't wait to attach unarmed citizens, Marines too.
If protests like this erupted in a Republican state I wonder if Trump would treat the situation differently? Would he send the Marines to Florida?
Trump will just ignor what the courts say unless they start jailing them
4,000 National Guard in Los Angeles Forced to sleep on parking garage floor REMAIN UNPAID NO FORMAL ACTIVATION ORDERS NO OFFICIAL DUTY STATUS NO LEGAL PROTECTIONS MEANS NO PAY NO TRI-CARE NO COMPENSATION NO BENES Their presence is breaking the law Trump is a disaster bsky.app/profile/demg...
Kick his ass Kick him out Trump is trying to get things to explode so he can enact INSURRECTION ACT EVICT TRUMP EVICT ICE EVICT National Guard EVICT Marines Shame on Trump for using National Guard & Marines this way for his corrupt plans to destroy democracy
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How long before these are heard
A general strike is our best response to this nonsense. He and his supporters only care about money so it is the best way to non violently get the message across.
@agrobbonta.oag.ca.gov @governor.ca.gov The bill to send all national guard and marines home, needs to be sent to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Does the court action today include an injunction I hope? To kick out the Natl Guard and Marines??
Then this will be reversed...
Good luck with that!! These legal bodies that should have been able to stop Trump has shown too late the ability to rein him n. It's Repercussions 4 actions that are missing.😏
What about the marines that were just deployed ?
Trump is a fascist pig. A pork taco.
Remember this is the same bullshit trump did with the water stunt, where he wasted tons of water just for show, saying he saved LA from the wildfires. Now he's doing it with a national guard/military stunt when it's not needed. ALL FOR SHOW like his stupid ass parade for a draft dodger.
Thank you for all the lawyers and hard workers behind the scenes fighting tyranny in our government
So Trump doesn't give a shi* about what's lawful...He'll do whatever he wants to...because he's getting away with it again and again angain...just like Hitler!!!!
…and he knows that the process of law takes too much time, time he is using to break more laws and create chaos. Flooding the zone with illegality!
Good! Thank you for doing that. Signed, a Californian who understands the administration is simply testing out his Dictator skills for no reason other than to SHOW OFF to his other dictator buddies outside of the USA.
I think he needs to amend it to include the battalion of US Marines being unnecessarily sent in. Will someone tell me WHERE is the riot??!! Watts and Rodney King were riots. These protests aren't even close!!
Let's sucede now before it's too late. We don't need chump or his fascist regime here. Any magats in rural California can fuck themselves and move to Texas or wherever they fly the confederate and nazi flags. Not in Cali. Fuck trump fuck Maga fuck the whole shitshow gop bootlicking assholes.
Hoping it isn't a lawsuit that Pam Bondi or the SCOTUS can throw for Trump
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The shit is gettin' real now.
But the damage will be done before the corrupt courts says okay to whatever they’re paid to say!
For the 25th time, tk steps to put your National Guard out of the reach of the Nazis in DC. Call them up 4 some st reason or disband them and reform them as an independent state militia. Textbook 2nd amend Keep them activated & committed until 2/2029. All the blue and swing states shd do the same.
And apparently it pissed Trump off enough to deploy the military.
Bonta and Newsom should assert their authority and tell the NG troops to go home.
The only thing that stops this administration is strongly worded letters! They fold like a cheap suit! /s
Thank you AG Bonta!
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What about the 2/7 Marines out of Twentynine Palms there, Rob? A full active duty Marine landing battalion.
Cool. And in 10 years, the courts will still be sitting on the case…. it’s all a fucking joke.
Forgone conclusion You can still take action now
Trump is a dictator out of control
Let’s hope, very, very much, that scumtus will see it like that, too. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
That’s what’s up! Every intelligent lawyer needs to fight against this oppression. This is America—WE HAVE NO KINGS.
We support you
that's great bonta, but what about right now. right this moment when the marines are on their way? what about the people y'all keep encouraging to peacefully protest? what about them? what about those who have already illegally been arrested and have no lawyers, food or water? what about them NOW
"But Roberts said I could do whatever as president"
Trump Capone wants to activate Marshall law in California
Trump calls in the National Guard for his fake "insurrection" in California, but never called in the National Guard for the real insurrection, that he caused, on Jan 6th. The American public could loose confidence in our military if he keeps abusing it this way.
Lawsuits only matter when laws matter.
Won’t matter. Those Nazi assholes will ignore it.
Dare say the White House aids are scouring ancient law books in search of an excuse to allow Trump to do as he pleases with the National Guard.
Unfortunately they may come up with one. This is what you‘d better expect for never tidying up your law stuff.
People, if you're a grunt, there is nothing illegal about an order to deploy and go stand on the sidewalk with unloaded weapons. You're gonna follow that order or you will get busted. Is the deployment itself illegal? It almost certainly IS LEGAL, but that's not for grunts to worry about.
watch them move on to TX now where he can bring in troops with a governor who won't fight for his people
I guess we can add this lawsuit to the ever- growing list of all the other lawsuits against Trump. Unbelievable that we cannot prevent abd block these actions before-hand. Next time Trump mentions trying to do something illegal, how do we prevent / block it from happening? We need
Excellent.
Sue it for damages it caused too!
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Any legal repercussions for Hegseth ignoring their letter?
The legal process is so slow, very unfortunately.
According to @democracynow Newsom had and has the authority to order the national guard to stand down NOW. He does not need a court decision to do it.
This feels like January 20th again. Ugh 😩
If you are National Guard or Active Duty military and you are being ordered to violate the constitutional rights of US citizens then this is the number to the GI Rights Hotline. There is support. You don’t have to go through with it. 877-447-4487
Biden should have killed Trump right after that stupid SCOTUS ruling giving the president that power
That’s great, but all the California politicians should be in the streets standing with the protesters. You, the Governor, our Senators, congresspeople, etc.
The rule of law is what we the people want!
As a perplexed UK resident, asking if any lawsuits in America actually come to fruition???
only against the people ...
More lawsuits have been filed against the Trump Regime than any other prior president. Right now- the courts have ruled AGAINST Trump ~92% of the time. The remaining 8% were usually "procedural grounds." He's not doing well in the courts - & that's why he's drumming up "action" in California
Thank you!
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which court and which judge. seems many are on the wrong side of history
Thank you Mr. Bonta! You are tireless and fierce!
Add the marines! And what about the threat to kill protestors by Homan?
Or the MARINES!!!
Print the portion of the Executive Order followed by why it is UNLAWFUL. Remind the Nazi soldiers claimed they "were following orders" when they were held accountable for breaking laws at Nuremberg Court. FOLLOWING ORDERS is not the same as FOLLOWING THE LAW. Copy and laminate it FOR EVERY SOLDIER.
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In a broader sense, the *ETHNIC CLEANSING* is illegal. This is targeted racial harassment: assault, kidnapping, & human trafficking of mostly legal residents w/ no record. ICE should also be sued to be FORCED LEGALLY TO STOP. Any court that won't stop Ethnic Cleansing should be hanged by the jury.
hear hear!
Good
Who’s going to hear it and, more importantly, who’s going to enforce a court ruling against him
Full disclosure, I am a lawyer and I appreciate the merits of this lawsuit and the necessity of its filing. But even if the judge agrees…then what? He orders the Guard to go home? And if they don’t? Because this regime does not seem the least bit interested in whether or not their conduct is legal.
Where is Congress in all this? I think it might be time to put a few other things aside right now and deal with the active military takeover of our country. If you don't, those other problems won't matter. This administration needs to be stopped immediately. ACT! @democrats.senate.gov
Congress is sitting right there covering up for this motherfucker. That’s their job. The Republicans are in charge of the Congress. That’s where the Congress is.
It's time to cut off money going to the federal level from Blue states.
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What about the USMC? Honestly what the fuck are we doing here?
Tired of people playing dumb about the Epstein files. Here you go: scribd.com/doc/421585825 Here's the flight logs : searchable file: www.scribd.com/doc/440915976 Please share this everywhere I'm tired of people playing dumb.
or the bloody Marines!!!
This is how we win.
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Good..let's get a stay..and send them home.
If you support this? If this is what you voted for then 🖕🏻YOU! You are the lowest of lowest human beings and I pray karma finds you 💔
Nor The Marines. ILLEGAL. Though we know 2 of our current S. C. Justices who will say otherwise...
He has gone outside of his job description. He now is responsible for his criminal acts. Can’t wait for the arrest warrant to be issued and served. Hey, be sure to provide all the due process required.
That’s never gonna happen. Trump is above the law. He’s a dictator.
Good!!!
Shut Trump Down!
PRISON
This. 👆🏼
Drown the trump regime in a tsunami of lawsuits.
If trump did this illegally, can Newsome order the Guard to arrest any "ICE agents" for kidnapping unless they identify themselves?
He is an outstanding AG.
This is a President that really wants to use Force to crush his opponents! He has been informed that he can violate the law if he says it is part of his job. His opposition insists that waving papers in the air and saying “Please stop “ is enough. What do you expect will happen.
This isn’t law & order—it’s authoritarian creep. Troops on CA streets. No consent. No oversight.📢 Here’s what happened & how to fight back:👉 shorturl.at/vbrD0 Share. Write. Act.
And fill out some forms from this thread to report the use of tear gas which: harms the air quality, violates NEPA (because no environmental assessment was conducted beforehand) and also the cans are improperly disposed of on public property. Ze fines are not pretty bsky.app/profile/n1gh...
Is this the same government that so far has ignored nearly every court order or injunction that has been delivered against them? The DOJ who are threatening to arrest activist judges?
Trump AND Noom KNOW it was was illegal. They BOTH have said this before!!
You know what you call people who sue Trump? Losers. The only way to beat Trump is to fight the way he does. Newsome should immediately arrest the 500 Marines when they step off the plane.
They’re driving up from San Diego
SCOTUS is to blame, they gave him a crown so thier corruption could continue unabated. America is for sale to the highest bidder.
When Trump said: NO FOREIGN WARS ON MY WATCH! He meant: AMERICA FIRST! We don’t need no foreign wars. From now on we're going to make them 100% AT HOME!
Thank you, AG Bonta. May you be a thorn on the side of that correspondence school AG, Bimbo Bondi.
And when is the emergency injunction or hearing gonna happen? Seem important
The National Guard seems super content to "Just follow orders"
Thank you Attorney General Bonta, Governor Newsom, and California
Dumbass thinks a king can do whatever he wants.
The crazy part is that he ADMITTED ON AIR that a POTUS cannot unilaterally call up the Guard. @lawrenceodonnell.msnbc.com showed the clip this evening on his show
100%
Good, I hope they rip tRump a new one.
Wouldn’t it be nice if SCOTUS surprised us all and actually did their job? Wouldn’t it be nice if the courts tried, convicted and jailed Trump and Hegseth for 2 years as specified under the Posse Comitatus act? Tragically there are 6 traitors on SCOTUS and they would never allow it
The conversation of seceding needs to be had. We need to protect ourselves from this tyranny.
Brilliant!
Thank you.
Tax strike.
That's my Gov! Newsom has spoken out against trump more than any other politician. Has the guts to call him a "Stone Cold LIAR" yesterday. Hey media take a lesson-stop normalizing trumptrash.
Judiciary powerless now no enforcement possible
Asap
So, why did the guard come if not properly ordered?
If the suit succeeds & this activation is void, will the NG members still get pid?
Who the fuck cares what this guy says. Donnie Doll Hands does whatever he wants. Until someone does something about it, shut the fuck up.
For the last time. Some needs to tell trump he isn't KING. He's just FOO-King up the country.
Yes, they brought a lawsuit. And he responded by deploying Marines from Twentynine Palms.
Has anyone noticed all these laws, rules and so called guardrails that are supposed to protect us against tyranny are useless when we are confronted with tyrannical acts by, you know, a tyrant.
It’s alarming how much I thought was nailed TF down in our govt that is not!
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I’m thinking nothing is nailed down. And we’re in a hurricane.
Right? I had no idea so much was “tradition” or “precedent”. I feel like we have several amendments to pass!
The constitution was written to provide checks and balances between equal branches. Ultimately this is a failure by the GOP legislature to exercise their responsibilities under oath to protect the constitution. If we had a functional democracy the tyrant would be impeached, convicted, and removed.
The constitution was written at a time when men had principles. The GOP has no principles. That’s why they lack courage to stand up to him.
The only problem is that Taco thinks he's above the law. He will ignore any order issued by the courts. A lawsuit will not stop him. He needs to be impeached and removed, or declared incompetent to continue in office under the 25th amendment. Congress needs to grow a spine and act on our behalf.
He is above the law. He has reason to believe he’s above the law because he is above the law.
I see your meaning, but don't agree. He is not above the law. The law is clear. He has multiple felony convictions. He only believes he is above the law because spineless people in the system have never fully held him accountable. This is what we must continue to fight for. His day will come.
He is above the law. You show me one other person, Mr. Mike, who has 34 felony convictions and has never even set foot behind bars. He’s a joke and a con man and a felon and.
I think we are two people on the same side with different views on this point. So far, your view is stronger. I just happen to think the law is the law and his day will come. The bigger the con, the harder he'll fall. I am as frustrated as you it hasn't happened yet and many are suffering.
Am I the only asshole who feels like it’s just stones throwed at a big fat giant lumpy monster ? Like,. Let’s sharpen the stones. Let’s make fire. Let’s be smart???? It’s so stagnant!!
People are line dancing and marching peacefully in downtown LA. Don’t get sucked into the hype.
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The "states' rights" crowd sure are quiet today.
John Robert’s is going to ignore it on the shadow docket - Len Leo sent him a check so he is not concerned how many Americans get killed - whether by Seal Team 6 or by Marines.
Pee Wee German says the protests in LA are an “Insurrection” Let’s Clear that up right now.
Correct. It can't be done under 10 U.S. Code § 12406, which Trump used in his "memo". But (and this is important) Trump can take these actions under 10 U.S. Code § 253, albeit for corrupt purposes. The problem is there is zero check on that part of the law.
How long before the the SC says he can do it until they “”Decide”
How the courts rule on this will either be a game changer or a death knell on democracy in America.
Good! That Nazi Miller is pushing him to pull this s***. He's going to get it shoved up his ass.
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Lawsuits wont stop our civil unrest. Their as good as “thoughts and prayers”
Why hasn't he and his Nazi regime not been removed and put in prison??? He is a traitor to our country. He breaks the law and defies the constitution, and he can't be stopped? Our constitution needs work!
Does anyone believe that SCOTUS won’t let Trump do as he pleases?