Mystal: It all goes back to Dobbs. It tells everyone on that side that they’re open for business to take away, to smash, every civil right they don’t like. We’re living in the post-Dobbs era.. it’s going to take some time before the country has a moment of clarity about what’s really happened here.
Soctus, the famous cat philosopher of Ancient Rome!
So it's Soctus now?
Bullshit!
How long, a century? Because we don’t have the brightest group.
I think somewhere in the eSphere, I have tried to creepily tell him so, but Elie is my spirit animal.
The idea that your neighbor has a right to manage your womb is laughable on its face. Roe should have held for the full term. Dobbs is a stupid ludicrous disastrous interpretation of the Constitution.
So now women's health is the same thing as being trans now? Dobbs, seriously? I guess a sex-change could be viewed as an extreme form of birth control. 🤷♂️ Let's not die on this hill again.
How about everyone mind their own damn business? Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one. Same principle with sex change. Like your sex keep it.
I don’t have a problem with abortion make it safe, legal, and rare. And everyone includes you.
Women are f*cked is what happened.
I want to like this but I hate it
I would say it goes back to Citizens United, when they removed all pretense and legalized corruption.
It really all goes back to citizens United….
We who are further away from it can see it all quite clearly.
The ONLY legal theory to explains the Leonard Leo Supreme Court is Catholic Integralism. Not Originalism. Not history. Not precedent. Miss that & I don’t care how many legal degrees you have, you’ll never understand Dobbs, kings w immunity, guns, trans rights… medium.com/@thcarter123...
Oh, damn. And of course. American Catholicism is scary as fuck. From an Latin@ immigrant POV, we could not impose this on our offspring.
@petedominick.bsky.social have you ever invited Tom Carter to do an interview? If not, I hope you will!
Thanks airbag.
There’s just too many still in the cult.
As soon as it affects them personally. Until them, dissociation is nearly as powerful as a fascist’s desire to control others.
I hold no hope that anything will affect them personally. We are dealing with narcissists, part of a power cult with a deep under current of extremist religious doctrine, that seeks chaos and the apocalypse. They have enough money to protect themselves, and soothe any inconvenience.
That’s the only way they’ll come around to that fact. They aren’t equipped with sympathy or empathy.
They are inherently protected from exposure, until their body fails them. Nothing seeps in for long, every humiliation, or loss, results in them rallying, gaining strength. It's a delusion loop.
Listen and learn!
It all goes back to Congress who could have made it law in 76 but didn't bother so they could keep campaigning on it. Congress is the problem. They've given too much power to the executive branch & haven't legislated rights, instead letting the court rule, which doesn't legislate those rights.
The country doesn’t have ‘some time’ to think about what is happening. In the run up to the election, that was the time to think. Now is the time to act. Resist.
That the nation just laid down for Dobbs should tell you everything you need to know about the United States. I don’t know that Americans have the political will to repair democracy, cuz what we have now is CLEARLY broken.
That's the whole point, and that's what's terrifying. Corporations have been stealing from our govt for 40 years bc of Reagan, and then blaming govt for being too underfunded to work. P25 is the final nail in that coffin, to let privatization and religion "fix" the system.
What makes it extra infuriating is the right didn’t GAF about abortion until being 100 overtly racist 24/7 became just somewhat of a social faux pas.
Wasn't even mentioned at the Baptist Conference after Roe was decided.
I think he’s correct here. Slightly adjacent point, I think we are currently seeing the culmination of a 60 year reaction to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
That's true. Thanks to everyone trying to warn the public. We have to turn this around eventually.
John Roberts may end up being more of a villain than Thomas and Alito, but it’s a close race to the bottom.
So very happy we chose Canada.
Terrifying.
So so freaking true.
Conservative judicial philosophy was reverse-engineered by the Federalist Society from specific policy goals- how would the constitution have to work in order for us to ban abortion, gay marriage, transgender care, & allow every person to have every gun all of the time? You start there & work back
It will take generations to undo the damage MAGA has done to America - even longer if Democrats don’t proceed methodically with unbridled ruthlessness. Not only do we have to repair our institutions, rebuild trust at home and abroad, but we also must vigorously excise the cancer that is MAGA.
Who is protecting children? Keeping Families Together?
We all just sat there and did nothing when that happened and for the whole 4 years Biden refused to hold Trump accountable.
Garland owns a lot. I was so hopeful for his to be the above board one & he slow walked everything - he failed the nation
Me too.
Exactly 💯
As always, Elie speaks the truth no one wants to hear. Thanks, always to him.
BINGO! DING! DING! DING!
In my legal opinion, no Federal, State or Local law restricting a woman's choice to have an abortion is lawful under the Fifth, 9th, and 14th Amendments to our US Constitution. I could explain, but what's the use?
discussion about abortion, it is implied that government has the authority to interfere with a woman's inalienable right over her body and medical care. That is not the case.
The US Constitution was created to establish the fundamental principle on which the USA was founded: the people are sovereign, not the government. Consequently, the US Constitution limits the power of government, not grants rights.
As a result of the Alito decision in Dobbs, the Constitution has been turned on its head, and the fundamental basis of our Republic has been flipped. The Constitution is not the source of our rights. Human rights were deemed inherent and inalienable by the Founders.
Would we have Dobbs without Citizens United though? 🤔 seems like that is decline's starting point
No. Fascism brought to you by John Roberts.
And capitalism. Always capitalism.
The go together. The minute it looks like capitalism is faltering, here comes fascism to rescue it!
💙 Elie 💙 always a voice of reason with that pizzazz❣️
MAGA is at war. It about time we realize it.
Yeah- it’s taking a long ass time for Americans to catch the fuck on
The UK is heading towards this too. We have Farage and the Tories and they've now lost their minds. It's all human rights they want to take away and they use people of Pakistan heritage to abuse and manipulate. We all need a Canadian Elbows Up mentality. They aim at one group but it's all of us
You’d know I’m sure.
Concur but I think this rebranded National Front has switched from its original JudeoPhobia to IslamoPhobia. The number of racists I hear in t'pub condemning this "Shari Law" (sic) clearly don't understand how it applies. They also think all Moslems are terrorists but then so does this Govt.
Talking themselves into further disparity and despair ..it is extraordinary+!!
One assumes that their mentality was, that with Brexit, all the brown people would go home & "sunlit uplands..." Rather than blame themselves for being mugs. Or blaming the muggers... They fasten on to the fact that someone else is to blame and it can't be the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_... Horde.
Or all them Muslim EU countries that twas never thus.
Wow .. this is the on the street talking? Honestly though I hear it from my own family from Stoke. It's rabid. Stupid, illogical and beyond basic thinking. But yeah I know it's real.
It's the Sun wot dun it. Or, rather, Murdoch and his spawn...
I can see so clearly! Are people so willing to have their rights taken away. I am just a retired HS English Teacher who has lived a lot of voting years and honestly taking away “Due process” for all people should scare the Hell out of anyone who lives in this country.
I love that he is calling white ring, instead of right wing.
When I heard the decision and there were no mass protests, I knew it was over for the US.
There were mass protests. www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06...
Thousands, not millions.
REVOLUTION NOW!
I see "Take some time" to mean the fools, lunatics and idiots need to die off first before clarity can be achieved, it's also why the Republicans have become anti education for the poor. Dumb is docile.
www.nytimes.com/2025/06/21/u...
Well, that’s disgusting
Agreed completely! Excellent observation. They're coming for EVERYTHING now, and we're heading for Handmaid's Tale at breakneck speed.
It goes back farther than that, to Citizens United, and the gutting of the VRA.
It goes further back than that. Look at the confirmation hearings for Clarance Thomas when a woman’s credible allegations of sexual harassment were ignored. And the confirmation hearings for Kavanaugh, when Dr Ford’s credible allegations of sexual assault were ignored.
💯 he should have NEVER been confirmed they pushed and ushed and just dismiss Anita Hill
Why does it say SOCTUS?
All the Republican Justices lied about Roe v. Wade. The Dobbs decision was indefensible and just proves, along with Citizens United and many others, that this is a rouge, political, arm of the fascist Republican Party. 🤬🚩🚩🚩
Trans people warned US society what was coming from the r/w for over a decade, to no avail. When you’re the canary in the coal mine you see things that others don’t.
We’re in big trouble thank you Mystal
Pretty far down
Exactly.
Makes sense to me.
It may take 10 to 15 years to undo this utter damage to the country and our place in the world. The Orange Plague.
Most of us already have clarity about what's really happened...
babylonbee.com/news/democra...
Everything belongs to the states.
Seriously, how are we even teaching law now
Great point, how fickle and ridiculous is it going to start getting?
I would argue it all started with Citizens United.
Elie Mystal is the Political White Liberal Malcolm X warned us about. youtu.be/T3PaqxblOx0?...
If ever.
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And this is EXACTLY what everyone said was going to happen.
@democratswin.bsky.social
So good to see Katie giving Elie some airtime. His position is as on point as Katie's which is probably why we don't see them on MSM anymore. Modern Cassandras that no one wants to listen to.
My marriage is next on the chopping block once they outlaw everything trans.
Justice Thomas announced in Dobbs that he wants to overturn all rights cases. Even interracial marriage - go figure that one out
Marriage for me, but not for thee.
Beg to differ. In his Dobbs concurrence, Thomas left the Loving decision (that made interracial marriage legal nationwide) out of his list of decisions he wanted re-decided. Both he & KBJackson have white spouses & Barrett has black adopted children. Not sure even Thomas wants Loving overturned.
He conveniently left out interracial marriage.
Alito will rectify that, I'm sure.🤬
I don’t need to figure out that his christian nationalist benefactors lavished him after they paid to install more Thomas/ Alito like pricks. Thomas gained wealth & power for himself. He does not dispense justice. He dispenses what he is told to.
Full video from Katie Phang’s YouTube channel here: youtu.be/Kg_szbiSGbE
SECOND VERSE SAME AS THE FIRST: IS THIS MOTHER FUCKER STILL ALIVE??? I HAVEN"T SEEN HIM DO JACK SHIT FOR SO LONG>>>
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
Not much time for some. Some of us realized what kind of nightmare Dobbs unleashed right a way. Even before with the leaked ruling, which wasn’t as bad as the actual ruling and Thomas’s concurrence. People red to pay attention to actual reality and not reality TV.
Ellie mystal is awesome!! Katie phang doing her thing👌
This is not true. Dobbs is one of numerous evil outcomes of the Shelby ruling 12 yrs ago which rolled back MLK's legacy. Republicans promptly and heavily suppressed the black vote. Non-black voters are mostly Republicans. Trump couldn't have gamed the Electoral College without this.
The 5-4 GOP majority went to 6-3 because of Shelby. That's how we got Dobbs. Dobbs is not the key. Shelby is. www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/u...
@katiephang.bsky.social , a native Floridian, who practiced law in FL, who was a prosec in FL, and whose program is disseminated from FL.. Needs to run for US Senator from FL, and help flip the Senate. She will win, comfortably.
I love Elie Mystal. He brings so much passion and burn to his messaging.
He's an idiot
You’d know.
Ellie Mystal is another one of my favorite law heroes.
First time I've seen him, but it won't be the last.
Same 💪🏽
SCOTUS is actually SCROTUS Misogyny and hate rule. And Thomas' whole mission has always been to destroy the country- don't believe me, look at all his decisions.
1922. All Caucasian Women. Regardless of having no property or married to a property owner. Won the right to vote. 1984. All Women regardless of ethnicity won the right to vote. Republican Women voted to return to 1919. While the Democratic first world is advancing Women's rights. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
If only the Government of the United States copied the tenants of the ECHR. When European countries adopted them from it's inception. 🇮🇪🇪🇺
We don't have time.
Dobbs was the Litmus test!
Does every American have to be egregiously harmed personally before becoming outraged? Before pushing back? A very serious question: just WHAT will it take?
National protest, as many ppl, to overwhelm the system, if enough ppl say no. Worth a shot
I'm in.
Frankly, for the most part - yes. As with COVID; the immigrant renditions; the Muslim bans; the persecution of LGBTQ+ people et al - if it doesn’t or didn’t happen directly or personally to them 🤷🏾♂️. As long as Starbucks remains open; the AC stays on & the internet signal is strong most won’t fight.
I genuinely believe that Marvel Phase Four had more influence in the voting behaviours of young cishet men than Roe v. Wade being overturned. People only care when it affects them.
You would think that they would maybe come to the realization of “someone I sleep with not being able to get an abortion could ruin both our lives,” but they haven’t bc men dgaf. The number of times men have slept with me and only found out I was on birth control AFTER unprotected sex is insane.
The vast majority of men consider birth control to be the woman's responsibility, just as far too many men consider an unplanned pregnancy to be the woman's problem.
There was a dude who did this with me and then later told me he was nearly baby-trapped by a woman who lied and said she was on birth control but then miscarried. Like DUDE. If that’s not a wake-up call, idk what is.
Its easy peasy for guys to go their whole lives without being personally affected by an unplanned pregnancy they caused
What’s crazier is one of the guys literally had that happen to him before and was considering dropping out of university to become a carpenter before she miscarried and he STILL didn’t ask if i was on birth control before having unprotected sex. Like…DUDE.
I had one pregnancy scare and got on an IUD immediately.
Age-old injustice. Men will fight unto death to preserve that status quo. And the courts have always had their backs.
We're witnessing what an abominably selfish society is capable of bringing down on themselves.
WW3? I guess we'll see.
Until white men are hurt it will be an uphill battle
totally agree...it was huge...but men did not care until it happens to them...self absorbed...women are first in line to get abused have rights taken away from them ect
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Off topic but on a quick glance I thought it said Mystikal was the one quoted and I was very confused
We need to get to that clarity like STAT!
It will take a lot of deprogramming, in order for one side to wake up and see what the hell is going on.
Elie’s right…Citizen’s United rammed the Door, Dobbs shoved in as doorstop…and the shit flows freely forth.
Agree with everything he is saying except implying Miller is Nosferatu rising from his coffin is an anti semitic trope. Being better than the far right demands we actually be better.
Really? Did not know that. Thank you
Women tried to warn them what Dobbs meant beyond bodily autonomy.
This!
They lose me at “hello”. The final chapter is after they remove our humanity they will brutally pick up the human homeless healthiness garbage they’re creating and physically euthanizing us from their communities.
It's gonna take an expansion of the Supreme Court, or several of our Supreme Court members dying, to affect any change in this country in the next 50 years
With trump in office, it won’t make a difference. Especially, if Moscow Mitch is still around.
Yes. Sadly, yes.
Elie Mystal is spot-on Overturning Roe was the gateway to taking away our Civil Rights. America has had THREE years to develop a moment of clarity. It hasn't happened. In 2024, American women helped elect fascist Trump who doesn't support equal rights or a woman's right to reproductive healthcare
White Women.
Let’s be clear…. White Christian nationalist women. Not all white women. The impact of this is across all races.
Because when you take away the bodily autonomy of 52% of the population and nobody in power gives AF enough to stop it because HYSTERIA, you now have the road map to autocracy. Thank you Mr Mystal for pointing to Dobbs as their catalyst. Eugenics is their real white whale 😉
IS THIS MOTHER FUCKER STILL ALIVE??? I HAVEN"T SEEN HIM DO JACK SHIT FOR SO LONG>>>
🙏😂 “Every time Stephen Miller rises out of his coffin…” Brilliant! Laughing through tears…
It goes beyond this to the “only good Catholic is a white Catholic” theology running rampant in this white nationalist cancer embodied in the Supreme Court and Pugsley Vance’s orbit.
Thanks to the republicans dumbing down over the last 50 years, 1/2 the country are certifiable idiots. High school grads who cant do simple math or read. Drugged up on a.d.d. or depression meds since childhood to get through the struggle of life made unaffordable by the rich and republicans
Getting Roberts out of SCOTUS, is the first thing that needs to be done, to secure balance in the judiciary again.
Alito & Thomas as well.
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…”Stephen Miller rising up out of his coffin…” 100%!
Elie Mystal is a brilliant legal thinker.
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The old saying in politics is that the pendulum swings one way then the other way. Unfortunately we will go through a lot of pain while waiting for the damn pendulum to swing back our way. So instead of “waiting” how about doing things that will speed it up! Waiting is Schumer’s game plan, asshole!
I don't think they'll notice. Republicans are overwhelmingly white people who have the least to lose.
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It’s White Christianity that is doing the damage to this Nation
Katie’s show has been amazing!! She is a fantastic addition to the Meidas crew. I love her more when she’s free to express her true self, like she is now. This shit is scary. I’m glad we have all of you. 👏👏👏
I remember when Dobbs was announced, with tears streaming down my face. I had a feeling of panic and fear and a deep deep sense of dread. I knew what they would do. There would be no "letting the states decide". As long as the states decide their way; if not, they'll decide for them.
Self-righteousness is a form of prejudice. Scapegoating is a convenient way to dominate. The court was packed and I expect this to worsen.
Suppose we are clear. Werner Herzog said, "Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches."
McConnell knew exactly what he was doing when he destroyed the Court’s legitimacy.
Disagree, shit hit the fan with Citizens United: the root of all modern evil.
I remember when I heard the news about the Citizens United decision driving down the highway in Austin, TX. I knew at that moment Citizens United would pave the way for massive corruption in 🇺🇸politics.
The point about Dobb’s is not about it as a marker of time for when shit started getting bad, but what they’re saying is it was the green light that this SCOTUS is open for far right business
I agree. Money in politics skewed the election towards the Billionaires and Oligarchs.
Even worse, CU conferred corporations human attributes and more power & protection than the individual humans which constitute them, our entire legal system imploded. Our constitution did not foresee that, corp’s in US came to be in 1816 (3x decades after COTUS was signed).
Agree, the deep root before what appears as the cause.
Let’s put an end into this fascist regime. What’s the hold up people? Fear? It’s gonna get a lot more scarier if we don’t. generalstrikeus.com
Women have known from the start
Their assault on civil rights goes back at least to Shelby County, where Roberts eviscerated the Voting Rights Act, a statute he has despised since he was a young Reagan Administration attorney. So much for “judicial restraint”.🙄
Kudos for Katie.
Lmfao douchbag alert
Retard Alert
How much fucking time you need? Its been 3 years.
“If you think for one second the Capitol will ever treat us fairly you are lying to yourselves. Cause we know who they are and what they do! And we must fight back. Fire is catching and if we burn you burn with us.” Katniss Everdeen The Mockingjay
Mystal is exactly right. I always want to hear him.
A lot of people haven’t awaken to the fact that Dobbs crippled everyone’s right to privacy. Underreported.
Because they think it just affects younger women, not them, so no need to care.
By giving the people the right to vote on abortion rights invaded people's privacy? Not goney. Looney
Roe v. Wade was decided on the right to privacy, which was determined using precedent. Overturning it also established a legal precedent that the precedent of the right to privacy is legally null and void.
Actually not null and void. But it does set a precedent that cases decided upon the right to privacy can be overturned.
So many of us got tired of saying it. You may not care about abortion, you may even hate women but once they made it ok to take away rights they weren’t just going to stop there.
100% the money that is being injected into elections is beyond insane. I can't even understand how the Supreme Court justified that decision, it makes no sense and obviously has entirely too much influence on elections in this country. 🤬
Hes right. We passed that road sign years ago. His election was the signal to go go go.
Justice moves too SLOW in this country, which is why we are where we are. They’re using it to their benefit just like the orange putrescent fat ass used the court’s appeal process to stay out of prison and get himself back into the White House. UNACCEPTABLE. Justice delayed is justice denied. 🤬
Normal, non whiner people of the US finally stood up and said enough of your crazy. You all are nuts.
You can now vote on abortion. That's democracy. What's the problem now. Oh. Now you want women to have to compete with men. Kids to have their gender changed by their parents. Nutty loons!
So. Turning abortion voting over to the state voters made them vote to protect women's rights? Ok. You're right. Women should be protected.
What is soctus? Is that just scotus, but misspelled?
For four years I've been saying: They will NOT stop at Roe. #WeEffinToldYou
Yup. But the price of my cheesy poofs are high. 🤦♂️
And now they are higher, because that deranged Cheeto campaigns on lies!
Grocery bill in the last 3 months has gone up 100 a week at the minimum.
You said Cheetos! Dammit!! I had one with putin, a deal with moms of Dead russian soldiers. In exchage for 18 bags of Cheetos! Ill find it but take this one on moms getting MEAT GRINDERS
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