Folds: If we’ve been told our whole lives that we can’t spend money on the arts because they’re not important—then why was taking over the Kennedy Center and the arts the first thing they did? It is extremely important. It’s the bedrock of self-expression.
Full interview and more from MeidasTouch here: youtu.be/ScBecZo7434
Why is Trump so hell bent on unloving people?
He wasn't loved as a child. ALL of this bullshit is a projection of his own lovelessness and other issues.
It also about control! He needs to control the narrative ( flooding the zone) otherwise free expression will get out and undermine him. Springsteen is the example. He needs to close down dissent. Intelligent people who see what’s happening are not the target! ( for now)
This is spot on. I've often said similar. His loveless existence, the insecurities, the constant failures, the jealousy, the envy, and the increasingly more ridiculous lies... all of it has created one great big black hole. And there is nothing he can ever do to fill it up.
How sad for us—I mean, him.😢
I mean look at it this way: Trump’s anti-migrant policy could be right. If US Immigration never let Trump’s shiftless, grifting grandfather in from Germany in the first place, he never would have been born here to foment fascist furor & destroy our Constitution. Can we deport Orange now & fix it?
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Is there a hero out there to tell us who the SURPRISE RESIGNATION is? I don’t engage with click bait. @meidastouch.com , I love you, but please do better.
Ben Folds, a musical artist/performer, resigned from his position as National Symphony Orchestra (NSO) artistic advisor at the Kennedy Center in February.
Thank you.
They should NEVER have dissed Jessica Denson over the election fraud...because, it's going to come out that SHE WAS CORRECT & welp,it's not going to bode well for Ben & Co.
Let’s blindside him at the ballot #VA82 secure.actblue.com/donate/kpawe...
Who resigned?
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Let's destroy the arts, trump's policy apparently. Or maybe it is more "make everybody in the arts agree with me" which is actually amounting to the same thing since trump has no love for either science or art.
Parce qu'il n'a aucun talent !
Je pense que cela va au-delà de cela, cela vient aussi d'une âme vide... il est anti-américain... nous savons qu'il est un fanatique total (traversez Google Translate)
I wish MeidasTouch didn't feel compelled to use graphics in the same vein as "One Secret Trick" ads. I'm always too embarrassed to share their links because it looks like it will lead to a nonsense site.
Agree. But I think they do this to play some YouTube algorithm game. And if that’s what they gotta do to get their word out, then have at it.
Absolutely. "Mix toothpaste with petroleum jelly, and you'll be amazed!"🙄 Using a thumbnail pointing at the ceiling has the same off-putting clickbait 'energy'.
Totally agree—it looks like click bait and suspect—I know if I go there, I will be disappointed and feel duped.
I completely agree! Next thing you know you will have the contributors posing in the thumbnails with their mouths gaping like open dumpsters. I just hate it and have actually blocked channels on YT because of that. Want to be taken seriously? Act like it.
It really started when ron filipowski got in ;(
It was long before him.
Facts
He’s terrible.
His approach has totally infected the fifth estate sorry not sorry. Yeah he can be funny, warm, kinda smart, but endless posts laughing at the same fascism-funny stuff contributes much to progress. They make it seem less dangerous. I have super dark sense of humor, this is not that. you know?
I'm with you. And every video title is something tabloid-esque and they use the same alarmist sayings. I like the network, but hate the way they sell it.
Stopped watching their stuff because of the click-baity titles and thumbnails.
This channel is great. No outrage drama. She only does three videos a day on this channel. (She has another one with longer weekly videos) Her husband used to do the videos but he was suffering a mental toll with all this BS. So she took over. youtube.com/@belleranch?...
Thank you. I'll check it out.
As much as I loathe it, I get why they do it. Something with the stupid algorithm. I hope with their getting up in numbers, they might stop with the sensationalism. Or at least not as often. It is just too much. Is everything a DISASTER, URGENT, or SHOCK?? The apple pod titles are not as extreme.
Agree. I love their channels. If they had something a bit more professional. I just think it looks cheap. But then again I’m old.
I agree. I love MeidasTouch (they report things faster and better than mainstream media) but I am loathe to share some of their links because they look like they are trying to appeal to a UFC audience.
Often use completely misleading headlines that are not remotely supported by the actual content. Not just Meidas, a bunch of alternative sources on YouTube. I am skipping them more and more as there is so rarely really new info
Agreed. I only listen, but I find the episode titles exhausting.
It's funny. I was looking for their youtube account today, saw all the 50% OFF SALE OMG !!! thumbnails, forgot what I was looking for again, closed the tab.
Their #1 position in the ratings demonstrates the effectiveness of their approach.
YouTube video IGNORED by voter who is TIRED of all the HYPED UP TAGLINES
The SEVEN SECRETS of democracy that REPUBLICANS DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW.
They don’t want self expression. It represents independent thought.
Because they could!!
Trump wants to create a society in his image, you know, like the biblical god?
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Hitler also controlled the performing arts, suppressing anything considered 'anti-Aryan' (the Nazi version of woke or pro-DEI). The playbooks of Hitler and Trump are very similar. Given Trump's lack of intellect and literacy, I suspect the influence of malevolent hangers-on such as Stephen Miller.
Project 2025 does Weekend at Donny’s.
In the famous words of Chief Inspector Jacque Clouseau: "Not, anymore." 🚬😎
He's jealous of the Kennedy legacy.
Ben is such a treasure. If u haven’t heard his genius, try this … www.abc.net.au/listen/progr...
They took The name, not the arts.
It’s the bedrock of challenging power. They know that.
Ben! 💪
Trump is a very vengeful individual!😈
Jealousy is another reason they take over the arts. In St. Louis this weekend, a right winger ran the celebration under the arch and it was dead ville. Dr. Phil’s son was the headliner. Blah! Trump so wants to be admired like true artists are. But he isn’t. Not by the smart people.
Because they “thought” more people were stupid and without character than their little circle of robber barons only to find out that the Kennedy Center without morals is just a empty building knock it down
They are hypocrites!!
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control
Controlling the social imaginary is key to manipulating the realms of (im)possibly
They wanted to fuck with everyone. Including Ben. He should've expressed a fuck you to Donald in the style of Song of the Dumped.
This is an excellent question by Folds. Arts always get cut first in schools, yet, every vidoe game, movie, tv show, etc, requires music and graphics.
B/C some of the performers there refused to perform for his inauguration and that hurt his widdle feelings. So he HAD to get even.
For propaganda
Lots of spiralling off in random but interesting directions in the replies, but I just want to bring it back to @actualbenfolds.bsky.social being a stand up guy, as usual. Thanks, Ben.
His five ex-wives may be of a different opinion.
Well this may be true, but since I don't know any of them in a personal basis, I try not to make personal judgements. They all seem to be good people from what I know of all of them. 🤷
I think it's six now. He seems like a decent sort, but either way, yeah. Maybe marriage isn't for you?
It's clearly not for him.
He didn't like 'wokey' content and preferred his own 'hot' content. Yes, I agree with you.💯
They shit on things they can never have.
Let’s be honest, their idea of art is crayons and paint by numbers….it was just a jab at a liberal pillar
It’s also what inspires hope and love
It also allows us to explore our inner feelings and emotions.🐝
It wasn't really about the arts. It was about the Kennedy Center. Named after a political dynasty (which the Trump family will NEVER be) and about it being "woke." You know. It's not hate-filled enough.
FOTUS knows that generally artists can't stand him or anything he stands for.
Because they hate self-expression.
The arts are the bedrock of civil society. They are also the bedrock of intellectual and emotional growth.
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Intelligent people everywhere should start their own award that he can’t get at.
They want to dominate the cultural conversation and choices. All authoritarians have.
Right!!??
He’s spent his whole life wanting to be wanted by the people in the arts. Happily, that will never happen
Yes, he meaning Trump.
"He", meaning Trump? Please bring us non-NewYorkers into the picture.
oh no, "not important" here means "it should go away BECAUSE it's not important" what's important to them is criticism, not the arts.
The arts are the fabric of a community - so important!
Yes!!!
and WHAT is this surprise album???
He did it because he could. He has always looked down on the arts.
Cultural sovereignty is needed! Thanks for the remind—CANADA let’s get behind our own culture!!
Controlling the Arts (what we're exposed to) helps fascists control people, the culture. They don't want us to express ourselves, our ideas (most particularly, any that would oppose them). Controlling the Arts, and the Kennedy Center is important to them.
Good for you, Ben! Glad you didn't allow yourself to be sucked into that mess! Where can I hear your album from Kennedy?
It was to diss the Kennedys
Ben Folds is fantastic. Word. youtu.be/Wt5EHAqhR1c?...
He can't have anything within his reach be critical of him, even indirectly. That's how pathetic he is.
For the same reason Plato mistrusted the arts in general and musicians in particular (who he wanted to exile). Right before he died (in highly suspicious circumstances) you had the far right (people like Strom Thurmond) terrified of John Lennon's ability to put a million on the streets with a word
Never knew this of Plato - weird read.
Yep. He didn't trust musicians one bit because he believed they (can) wield more power over the minds of men than government. So he proposed exiling them.
Every step he takes in favor of fascist rule… copying the Nazi model! To the letter.
Because there were black people on the board especially the press secretary who Biden had appointed to board. That’s why he got rid of them. He knows nothing about the arts and culture. He knew they were all smarter than he was
it’s a Sisophysian task trying to make sense out of the senseless
It’s the first thing Facists do. They rob the nation of the art and culture. Hitler had such a mechanization to do it. We are till this day finding and returning works to their rightful owners. They know its value and importance to the people That’s precisely why they attack it
Probably to get ahead of ALL the art that's critical of Trump. Control the media, the arts & the narrative.
Yrs it is.
Absolutely
In order to shit on it.
The arts and artists have always been progressive. They changed the world before and they will do it again.
this was an amazing presentation. I adore Shostakovich and I knew none of that about Rostropovich. Now I love them even more. The Kennedy Center is a beautiful place. My heart breaks at its present situation. In defiance we need to MAKE MORE ART.
Without the arts what is it the kids want to all be influencers about on social media ? Nazi leadership? Budget agreements?
Such an important point. It was tv, music, plays that showed America the horror of racism, the Vietnam War, the importance of integration, that it’s ok for women to be independent and control their own bodies, that gay people are ok, and so many other things.
There is a reason i laugh when people claim “Star Trek is bad because it got political”. And i am thinking “did they miss all entries from TOS onward?” Its always been political, Scifi is one of the most political expressions in art because its far flung adventures let us explore ourselves.
It had a representative cast of men, women and POC which was fantastic!
They took it over because white supremacist view diversity as a threat and they think they are kings.
Really? And we didn’t know this in 2017 because. . .
Idk. I didn’t vote for him. Ask MAGA. People don’t want to hear what they want even when the truth is presented to them…
I meant *people only want to hear what they want
The depth, breadth, and richness of the arts are what make human imagination what machines can only mimic -- AI included. I am so thankful for Ben Folds' contributions and I appreciate his willingness to follow his moral and artistic compass. I can't wait to hear the recording. ☮️
He needed a place for Kid Rock to yodel and whine…. No where else wants him.
Unfortunately, he still gets a crowd. If they want to like him, let them.
I don't think anyone has ever finished with Kid Rock.
They want to steal from one of the least financially secure groups out there. They want to steal our money and our joy. They will fail.
Spite. aka “winning”
In the section of the BBB that cuts a slew of environmental tax credits, there is a 256 million fund for the Kennedy Center.
Aside from "cultural control", it's the same reason rich people always "support" the Arts. Money Laundering, and tax-dodges. www.artandobject.com/news/how-mon... Combine the Kennedy Center with "stablecoin" his sons are using for scams . . .
Hitler looted art galleries and museums trump thinks he's Hitler
He also controlled what art Germans could paint or display. Only realism. No abstract or even impressionist art. He also controlled the film and music.
The Kennedy Center is now nothing. Nothing at all.
Absolutely ✊🏻🎨🖌️
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Then add iced tea and vodka and make it a John Daly...
He GETS IT!!!!!
Because it was at the Kennedy Center that Obama delivered Trump’s most public humiliation to the laughter of millions. The mentally ill TACO is ALL about retribution. How else to explain ICE force now bigger than all others combined? Unlike the army ICE only answers to Trump. Expect EVIL unleashed
Ahhhhhh. I never made that connection. I think you've hit the nail on the head.
"It's feeling a little spookier by the day out there, but look around- we can still ... have this conversation." Playing right into their hands, using weak language to describe atrocity, rationalizing because it's alright for you. It's NOT a little spooky. It's TERROR for many. And it won't stop.
QED.
Ben Folds, you did the right thing!
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There absolutely should be government funding for the arts.
Didn't they do it post WWII? Public Works... something?🤔I know I've seen movies about it- a repertory group? 🤦😂I know alot of random history through films- "Slumdog Millionaire- style"😜
Pre-war, even. The federal government employed thousands of artists of all kinds during the Great Depression. Theater, photography, music, a ton of murals, at least one stone castle (it's on Orcas Island). Keeping America at work and fed.
I knew I remembered something about it- yes! 😃
Agreed. The venues to produce the ballets, symphonies, art shows and more are the venues of national and world treasures and should be cherished and the public educated to appreciate and love them.
Art fights back. It tells stories. It allows people to see beyond the narrow confines of their location and association. It opens hearts and minds. Totalitarians, having closed so many hearts, minds through propaganda really doesn't want that.
Writers, painters, musicians, it's all part of the expression of what it means to be human, love, wonder....and anger. And feelings of injustice. This is why the Kennedy center, this is why the universities. Fascist movements can't countenance rebellion which often begin in recognizing wrongs in art
You notice these groups always have to nationalize the arts?
We dare to think outside the box. We do not obey. We push limits. We inspire movements.
Trump wants to controleverything
Fascists kill the arts
Trump doesn’t care about the arts. He did this to harm those that despise him and that is most everyone except a lot of country and western musicians and a few mediocre rock musicians.
The boring people!
The so called Godly people who support this deviant
The christian nationalists. They are appalled by any art they dont understand and dont want to pay for it. I dont want to finance religious schools but have to put up with it. These religious waves come and go. The country moves forward then back again.
The arts are going to be the first thing an authoritarian certainly wants to control. That way they have the levers that control their narrative.
You are asking why the no talent narcissist is destroying a famous arts facility named after one of, if not the, most famous Democratic President in US history?
Good Question!!!
Such a great point!
Just what Hitler did. He stole all important art. Fortunately, the Germans were impeccable record keepers so a lot was traceable and later returned to their rightful owners. Trump, however knows and cares nothing of art in any form. It's ALL ego. They were both narcissistic, sadistic dictators.
As I understand it, Arts are a reflection of the origin, traditions, values & goals of a culture - a national narrative. One of the 1st targets of any authoritarian regime is to sieze the narrative & either destroy it, or manipulate & bastardize it to create a false narrative to achieve your goal.
🙏 Ben Folds for taking action and speaking #truthtopower
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Totally agree 👍
He took it over to remake our culture. It is that simple. If there were not enough people who wanted to see the former programming, the Center would not have been able to sell their tix or solicit memberships/donations.
Aw...I love Ben Folds. 🤗
And now the output is controlled by Demented Don. Control the narrative is Nazi 101.
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Because art is FREE THOUGHT. They want to DESTROY that.
So true
It’s a passageway into the national culture and a potentially useful avenue for fascist authoritarian propaganda.
Control
Everyone just needs to boycott the Kennedy Center until the Nazis are out of office. Let them book Kid Rock or Ted Nugent
@actualbenfolds.bsky.social
KC will be used to further indoctrination goals.
It’s too liberal for MAGA
Thank you!
Art is what makes us human. Otherwise we are just animals who can drive.
if there are 2 unimportant things I know about trump it's that he has no taste in arts and doesn't understand culture.
Because the fascists want to control what the public sees and hears, and if it becomes propaganda praising the GOLDEN CALF and the FOURTH REICH, so much the better...
✔️ Check ✔️ Check ✔️ Check ✔️ Check ✔️ Check ✔️ Check ✔️ Check ✔️ Check ✔️ Check Yep. Right on schedule😁
I can point to all 14...if Rockland County and numerous other voting districts are as I believe. #Scaryshit
The GOP is against spending on "liberal arts" not propaganda
They can never stop artistic expression. It is a part of everyone's lives.
I used to hate playing Monopoly 'cause my ten-year-old brother used to win all the time. But now that you mention it, it's a game based on egalitarianism where everyone starts with the same dollar amount, no nepotism (unless y'all are cheatin'), anyone can go to jail and everyone has to pay taxes 😀
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I love this Hank you for posting it! Also, giving movie Heretic vibes.
Wow, thank you for this excerpt from the origin story of Monopoly. Once again, the male capitalists win out. I just borrowed the audiobook from my local library! Merci beaucoup 💙
And your fate is decided by an arbitrary roll of dice.
📌🎯 Why Propaganda and Fascism Target Artists. www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-pr...
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It's the only thing that lasts.
To create better entertainment.
And why did Hitler go after artists as one of his first initiatives, with his "Degenerate Art" exhibition? He was admitting that art has power, and that the exressionist artists he didn't control were a threat to his saccharine vision of German culture.
Follow me back in time to the great mystery of John Ashcroft and the Spirit of Justice's breast cover-up circa 2002
Art = truth. Just like science.
art must flourish to have a golden age
To trash the Kennedy name.
It Was Because Trump Likes To Destroy Things That Did Not Accept His Crude Ways....
Trump wanted it as his mega church.
Could I get the link to that video?
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In this case it was all about owning the libs.
They are egotistical maniacs
Not only did he take it over, he has destroyed its purpose!! It has become his own "toy" since he has no ability or interest in doing anything else!!
Come on, we know why he took over Kennedy Center. Because he could and he "thinks" is gives him some "couth," which will never happen, but more about controlling what happens there. It's just lipstick on a boar hog who wants to be King.
ben folds ❤️
Article One, Section Eight of the Constitution of the United States of America specifically directs Congress to fund scientific research and the arts.
So many children will suffer without the arts.
Nothing to do with supporting the arts . Taking over a Democratic beacon of the arts was the point.
And it’s destroyed by that fat ass
Fotus is cosplaying a social elite. It's his revenge for not being accepted, ever, in what used to be called polite society. He feels better when he destroys things.
Yes, it's VERY important!!!
Ben Folds … A+
Spite. That’s why.
How very tragic for the Kennedy Center 💔
A great point. It was mostly to piss off the liberals. Let’s not forget Hitler was very fond of the arts 🎭 of theater and opera. Of course they did get booed I believe.
That’s why he took it because it has meant so much to American culture. There is money allotted in his BBB to ‘restore’ it as well which I believe he will be supervising so expect everything to soon be covered in gold spray paint. He is remaking America in his image…
He already redecorated the Presidential Boxes in each of the main stage theatres. Yes, there is a lot of gilt ornamentation.
Ever notice how many dem boys hide behind the fucking internet making videos of their pasty white face?
Just boycott the center, let Kid No Talent, Roseanne and some dim witted country “artist” burn the ears of a half full hall
What is Ben Folds “resigning” from?
His position as Artist Advisor to the Kennedy Center's National Symphony Orchestra.
Why did Hitler exhibit The Decadent Art show?
He needs to do another album with William Shatner.
Agreed, Arts are very important in our lives.
Keep hope alive, like these pretend folks! open.substack.com/pub/ohhistev...
Making Art in a Declining Empire medium.com/counterarts/...
Nazi Germany also highly regulated the arts. They disdained what they called “decadent” art, much of which was by Jewish or Western artists. They became the arbiters of “acceptable” art of every kind. This even included literature & music. Wagner, anyone? Hitler’s fave.
Well where else besides Branson would Lee Greenwood be able to sing?
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Your reminder to listen to Ben Folds Live (2002)
Yes, and loss of the Kennedy Center is never going to stop artistic expressions. Nothing will.
Americans have been brainwashed to forget that enjoying their life and leaving a better world for their kids is important. Both parties and corporate media have worked hard to make this so...
Give me my money back, you bitch
Because it's one of the Seven Mountains: Family, Religion, Education, Economic, Government, Media and the Arts. This is a directive for the Christian Nationalist. The plan is to control all aspects of all of these. This IS the plan.
The Heritage Foundation and their crazy ass followers are capturing everything good and destroying it to make it as they see it.
And of course it won't work. You can't FORCE religion on people. And those with a lust for power often disguise it with religious language - it's still lust, and a Deadly Sin.
I moved to the buckle of the Bible belt. Prior to living here I was indifferent to other people's religion. Now I want them to stay the hell of away from me. Do not knock on my door. And they are the most corrupt and fake ass Christians I've ever seen. They turn people away from religion.
Exactly 💯
You cannot make anyone believe in religion, you can only make them say they believe.
Nope - see North Korea. It is the model that Trump has chosen for you! Now surrender or ICE will deport you to a country you have never been to or can find on a map. Once there you are beaten and raped - this is "the way".
Art is also the bedrock of civilisation. In every single ancient group you will find art, and we define those people's intelligence by the art we find.
Because long ago the repugs figured out that they can't win on policy so they shifted the battle to the culture.
Go look up the plot of “The Cradle Will Rock” and the history of it being performed. Your answer is right there.
He canceled at the Kennedy center! It was when all the change happened with Krasnov. He had to be in control. I've always liked Ben Folds Five, but seeing that made me very, very proud!
Because Trump is a narcissist who always wanted to be famous and he is supported by zealots who only want their culture promoted. Always trying to control the narrative of history is what authoritarians do.
Of course; this has played out repeatedly throughout history. The Reich Culture Chamber, as just one example.
The ultimate benchmark of well-being in ANY civilized society is how they support art and self-expression.
It’s ONLY WHEN Democrats “spend money” on the ARTS as they don’t like Democrats… who they are and what they stand for… and so they don’t like their ARTISTIC VISION! Ex. The absurd arguments about “WOKE and WOKENESS” which basically mean EMPATHY or concern and compassion for others… Ex. TRANS…
America, home to clowns. A backwards nation. Care more about Brahms Sausage Concerto in D minor than the plight of the poor, dispossessed. A scummy nation. Healthcare? Where? Backwards, uncaring, racist, classist, entitled - need I go on? No meritocracy that I can see. Family wealth rules all.
Something something seven mountains and the mountain of arts/entertainment bsky.app/profile/matt...
It’s all about control.
There is money in the BB Bill to make it the way T-RR wants it too. Aren't you glad your paying for that? It used to be privately funded.
The arts are very, very important to society. trump took the Kennedy Center to own the libs & show off. Them trumps are not into the arts. They are also anti-science.
He did it to control the arts not to promote the arts.
He did it because he can be sure to get a better level of support from spineless sycophants who will do anything to protect the Arts ?
But, they might be able to host UFC bouts! Introduce a whole new clientele to the KC. No wait. They did that for Jan 6; a whole new clientele in the Capitol. Those characters totally trashed the place and the innocent lives in their way...
The arts are usually the first programs cut in public schools under the guise of "saving money." It's criminal! www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDce...
Bingo!
Status. They care about brand names and status. Do they respect artists? No.
Brand names and status, oh ain't that the truth. These slimeballs are full of avarice and pride but I have to say that oftentimes sellers of these items, whether works of art, such as branded jewelry or paintings, for example, or cars and yachts are complicit, especially when it's paid for in cash🤑
It is by design. The 7 Mountains Mandate is the precursor of Project 2025. Entertainment is one of those mountains they have vowed to “reclaim”. I have written, spoken & attempted to alert about this Dominionist movement for two decades & was dismissed as alarmist. It is underway.
I was never told that and nor were my children. Drama, Art, Politics, Literature, and Theology were common discussions at the table. Also the extended family.
Interesting peeps you come from. Most American families slug down food in silence, hoping not to get smacked in the head during the process. How do you think we end up with so many Nazis? Education is fundamental.
He was from a Theatrical Family not she!
Mixed marriages make for interesting narratives. Literature is full of them. Like King Cophetua and the Beggar Maid.
Othello-Shakespeare 1600s
Yep! Great example. Turned out a little worse than your parents’ relationship, though. Perhaps lack of an Iago lurking on the edges helped your folks get along well.
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I was referring to the plot in Shakespeare’s play. Othello & Desdemona are deeply in love until Iago engineers jealous suspicion in Othello’s mind. I’d say more but—SPOILERS! For others here who don’t know the play. Hint: Title is “The Tragedy of Othello, the Moor of Venice”
Cinderella another example. Snow White, etc. But also the Morels in Sons & Lovers.
We let them into US after WWII. What did our Ancestors think would happen?
When we were very young-that was the procedure. When we got older and were able to converse My Father liked the conversation-esp. because she was from a Theatrical Family.
The creative people in the world are the ones that got us out of the caves
