This is brilliant and clear.
This is brilliant and clear.
Amen. Children's lives are more important than gun industry profits (& campaign funds!)
Agreed.
THOU SHALT NOT KILL I guess you'll have to start using your guns for...I dunno... ART?
AMEN! PRAYER IS POWER NOT CONCESSION!
Exactly MAN MADE PROBLEMS ARE NOT GOD SOLVED.
Good way to look at it.
God gave us brains for a purpose-we’re supposed to use them to solve problems.
Jones is such a callous jerk. The self-unawareness of so many leftists is what truly stands out to the rest of us. That along with the double standards. The hypocrisy. The mean-spiritedness. You know, the usual stuff.
How many "rest of us" are in the room with you right now?
You’re never alone with a schizophrenic.
ZERO
Hmm. The two Justins are about the only good thing in Tennessee politics as far as I can see. He’s just holding up a mirror and you don’t like the reflection.
Justin’s a minister, don’t ya know. Minister of 🐂💩.
It’s absolutely precious how you cling to elementary school level of discourse. I’m sure that’s helped you change so many minds.
When your mind is empty there is no sense in someone else trying to change it for you. There is no ‘there’ there to begin with.
Oh. So you have been doing some self reflection. I commend you.
Wow truth
it's abuse
They ain’t praying for it.
Well said!
That is one of the truest statements I have ever read!
It’s called hypocrisy.
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“There is something deeply hypocritical about praying for a problem you are unwilling to resolve." - Miroslav Volf
"Theological malpractice," makes Theology sound like a science that deserves licensing. Theology is not a science; it is an art. It happens to be the art of bullshiting, but it's certainly nothing that can be practiced beyond practicing how to lie, convincingly
Mark Meadows did his own burning of documents. It was so bad trump didn't even want the destroyers to see them.
Reminds me of the story of the guy who died waiting for God to save him, waving away boats & planes who tried. When he met God, asking why He didn't save him, God replies "I sent 2 boats and a plane!" Back when this kind of thing could BE the stuff of jokes. Now we are one.
Exactly
Has Agent Orange said a single word about the Minneapolis shooting? He doesn't give a rat's ass about dead and maimed children or gun violence as a whole. The entire GOP is monstrous.
Thoughts and prayers unnecessary when you can change things if you want to.👍
"I prayed for freedom for twenty years, but received no answer until I prayed with my legs…" -Frederick Douglass
Use our power to change.
Thank you 🙏🏻.
Amen to that. I love that term, "theological malpractice"... I think I'll be using that one against my Christian Nationalist neighbors.
Rep. Jones' perfectly voices the grim truth. As the Republicans rally behind the shield of religion yet again it's imperative their wilful endangerment of Americans is acknowledged for the treason it is. The brazen refusal to actually stop such school mass shootings while pontificating about 1/
religion as they practise fake Christianity is an insult to all but especially to Victims of said shootings all across your country 😡
Absolutely an abduction of rational, compassionate thoughts for others. Irrational fear and self-absorption by the carload.
Excellent argument re: "thoughts and prayers" - I like this and the Dems should use it.
Somewhere on the planet, someone has the ability to change just about everything (not the same person all the time, of course, but I have to say it so I'm not misunderstood), so why are so many gullible religious observers still praying?
This guy is a rising star in TN. Yes, Tennessee. It’s a shame the MAGA lead TN house doesn’t debate. They just try to silence him every day. They’re scared of Justin.
Such powerful wisdom.
I like his approach. 'Theological Malpractice' is a phrase more critics should adopt.
I agree.
Agreed!
#THEperfectREPOST to Karoline Leavitt’s abuse of the bully pulpit, denunciation of Jen Psaki (who had rejected the invocation of thoughts and prayers as inadequate response to mass child murder) KLclaims Psaki is “incredibly disrespectful to deride the power of prayer”🤮 youtu.be/C_BcjujL0_w
Here we go 😒
I am unsurprised, unshocked, yet disgusted by the extent to which the TrumpRegime cloak themselves in Sanctimony. #GaslightingbyGodliness
deflection.. politicians have the power to protect us... they CHOOSE NOT TO.
Complaining about being “disrespectful” is rich coming from Trump’s paid mouthpiece. Trump is THE most disrespectful public figure on the planet.
Her stupid little ferret face and weasel talk really annoy me. Just spewing out endless verbal diarrhea to try to con and harm Americans, and getting paid for it. With that stupid, vapid face.
What is the power of prayer in this context? Are the kids less dead after the prayers? Are their families comforted? Are there fewer mass shootings? No, maybe (but probably not much), and no.
absolutely correct - praying is supposed to be for the things mankind can't change, not things it can easily change but chooses not to. That's being an un-Christian lying maggot who knows who his true master is
It’s like spiritual bypassing
I really respect this young man. He is the future.
Love him
#repeal2A
Do nothing.. cause the corporations putting money in the pockets of the pigs in the legislature pull the strings. Thoughts and Prayers my A$$.
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I don’t know that Jones was a minister. Look forward to seeing how far he goes in politics!
Thank you
Thank you!
If one of you says to them, 'Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,' but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it?" -- James 2:15-16
Well said. We are expected to be Christ's hands on earth to serve others. To pray and not take action means you don't serve Him.
He's a keeper👍🙏
ROFL Yes Make Gender Dysphoria a Mental illness
Exactly🩵💚💙💕
Yes! He is correct!!
theological malpractice
#repeal2A
Yes Yes You want to pray, become the prayer!!
Brilliant response.
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Uh oh. Get ready for a shit ton of more thoughts and prayers...and more innocent victims of gun slaughter.
"Theological malpractice" describes most of organised, institutional Christianity anyway.🥴
I will say this every day, EVERY DAY, the olds in the D party needs to get the hell out of the way and let these young representatives get to work! Just stand down for God’s sake.
Amen brother
SO WELL SAID! 👏👏👏👏👏
We have learned “thoughts & prayers” by certain groups of domestic terrorists, known and unknown, are a chef’s kiss from their behinds. It blows fecal matter directly onto American ppl in all directions.
Don’t you ppl believe that “god” helps those who help themselves??? Find a way to explain it through god. I’m sure there’s a way.
I REALLY want both of the TN Justin's to run for federal office......they are amazing
I believe there should be a way to compromise about gun control. The checks & balance systems in place are flawed. The fact gun supporters don't want to address it tells me many wouldn't meet those checks or aren't mentally stable enough to have them. We can still own guns with controls in place.
There's no compromise with fascists. Their entire schtick is well, beating you with a stick until they get their way with no concessions. They are anti-compromise, they view it as weakness. They have rolled back every single sensible gun control law. It's the fucking wild West out there.
Bravo!
I like him so much. I think he, Talarico, Mamdani, Kat A. and their coalition is going to have to be the future. Moral democracy not sadistic capitalism.
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Justin Jones needs to run for Fed Hse. He's a scrapper and I love it!🥰
And while I'm no minister, I was always taught that we are God's agents in the world. Meaning, it's up to us to act.
I love this approach! He is spot on!
Faith w/out works is dead. We have to do something too. Puts legs on those prayers.
Preach it, Brother Jones!! 🔥🔥💯
The sickest thing I've heard from the orange slug is that he will 'pray' for the people involved. These kids were praying when they were murdered.
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Been looking into when "thoughts and prayers" became the standard excuse for not doing something. Some suggest after Katrina, others after Columbine or Parkland. Here's an interesting take. "1. The Republicans were sensitive to the memes that were mocking the usage of the term and
decided to use the phrase with less frequency. "2. More Democrats began to use the term in a mocking way on Twitter. Text analysis is terrific but it does not yet have the ability to pick up on context such as satire or condescension."
Yep. Scripture says you must first do all YOU can!
Here’s some theology for you—the gods you worship suck.
pro tip: prayer doesn't work...no matter what political side you are on. There's nobody up there. Just us.
I'll add as a counter point, if you assume that you are created by the divine, then the divine gave us the potential to solve problems ourselves, and one presume he did that for reason.. That if after being given everything we need, we refuse to do the work, well that's on us, no matter what...
I will add as a counterpoint that the divine identifies as “they”.
Sure, make this a religious debate. I'm sure that will help. No one has tried that before
Americas True Religion While Moses was on the mountain, the Americans, growing impatient, built and worshipped a golden calf. In a rage, Moses descended and smashed the tablets upon seeing their idolatry.
So well said and RIGHT ON!
The answer to their Prayers, assuming they Pray, is to be put in the position to do something substantive against mass shootings & gun violence. They choose not to. The PAC money’s too good. No worries, I don’t think they truly believe in a Creator who sees and will hold them accountable, anyhow.
here's a much simpler definition of "theological malpractice": believing in any deity
God expects us to do our part if possible. He isn’t Santa Claus.
Make the calls, Demand saner gun control laws! How many more children must die, how many families will be destroyed due to the loss of a family member? Get the NRA OUT of Politics!
Yes!
Platitudes signifying an intention to do nothing to improve the situation.
My Mom's used to say, "God helps those that help themselves," and right now, we're not helping ourselves in regards to the slowing down the number of mass shootings I believe.
Theology has worked so well so far
When someone reaches out to you for help. You should never say "I'll pray that God will help you." Instead, for that moment, you should become an atheist - imagine there is no God who could help, and say "I will help you".
When someone tells me they will pray for me (which happens fairly frequently) I tend to respond “if that makes you feel better”
My response would be, "fine and I will think for you."
Ohhh I like that. Especially because it is exactly what I should have said several times in the past few weeks.
I really enjoy this man’s point of view.
Jones is the kind of young leader we need right now.
It’s why God gave us free will.
Yes!
In discussing why folks are MAGA w/ people, "victimhood" seems to be the common thread as a primary cause. It occurs to me that religion is victimhood. There's nothing I can do: it's god's fault (uh, I mean "will"). Makes sense that the "religious" Right embraces MAGAhood so strongly - victimhood.
As my mom would often tell me when I was praying for something: “God helps those who help themselves”
"Theological malpractice." Yes.
"The Gods are not exactly lazy, but they are self-respecting and refuse to waste good mystery on work that we should do ourselves." Talbot Mundy January 1926
Good point. It needs to be made and thrown in their faces every time they post that dreck.
Agreed
Or, hear me out, there is no god, so we as humans that have the ability (for our smallest level of minuscule existence) to do what we find morally right. ☺️ Don’t be a child of “Christ.” Do better than some ancient text written by countless men yearning for power during their time. 🤷🏻♂️ Simple.
Very well said!
Pure lunacy.
It is also a theological fraud. You can't really believe in God when you use him to avoid acting on a very great evil that you don't want to confront or change. If you believed in God you would be concerned about retribution for using his name in vain.
ineffective prayer goes along with magical thinking. is a waste of time and source os disillusionment. Ppl have to be careful
Praying is USELESS
Exactly!! thank you!
One of the most important, truest comments about thoughts and prayers-pray silently but speak with courage about how we create real life change. Does it take YOUR child or grandchild’s loss to say ENOUGH?!
Most ministers indoctrinate that you only receive relief through prayer and tithe. The God provides all, you know. VOTE
Nice
God helps those who help themselves. Prayer requires action or it's a wasted exercise.
The 2nd Amendment is a firearms regulation amendment. In America it is constitutional to regulate firearms. In America it is constitutional to restrict private ownership of automatic and semi-automatic firearms. In America it is constitutional to ban those firearms from private ownership.
You’re interpretation of the 2A doesn’t go along with any of the Justices of the USSC. What do you think the founders meant by making it a right of THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS? They said why it was necessary. What weapons would THE PEOPLE need to protect our free state?
Also, what has been amended once can be amended again. The Eighteenth Amendment was repealed. The Second Amendment can be changed or repealed, if that's the democratic outcome. The right to bear arms is not god-given. It was made by humans, and humans can revoke it.
Just another way to do absolutely nothing at all. I know, let's pretend there's a guy in the sky that controls all this shit!
Thoughts and prayers are the best way to do nothing.
Rep. Justin Jones makes a strong point! It's like saying, "Lord, I can't be bothered. You fix it."
Even if they are the good ones (now), it's still weird to hear religious arguments in relation to politics. You don't have a separation of church and state in the US?
What a great quote!
Faith without works is dead.
Excellent point.
I saw on YouTube, the sickness of the Evangelicals. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu7U...
LONG since past time to de-center white evangelicalism as the default definition of "Christianity" in this place.
Excellent point.
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This guy is so special!
GREAT POINT @brotherjones.bsky.social is making! ‘It is theological malpractice when you pray for something that you have the power to change.” What a completely honest thing for a person of faith to say, something Maya Angelou herself would have been proud of him for saying out loud.
Why don’t they just pray for violence in cities to end?
A lot cheaper than sending in an occupying force. More Constitutional, too. Ben Franklin was right about everything!
Hurts the bottom line of munitions manufacturers
THIS YOUNG MAN HAS THE FIRE OF THE HOLY GHOST⚡️
Have to respond. It’s not about theology. It’s about what’s right for all of us.
Amen, Brother Jones! As the old proverb says, "Pray to God, but row for the shore!"
I always heard: pray to god, but tie up your horse.
🤣🤣🤣 I like that 👆🏾
Being hypocritical in the face of the very God they profess to believe in. We should call this one thing - Evil. Use their own language against them. We need way more young people in politics like this young man.
This man should have a real future in politics. I admire him so much for standing up respectfully and strong for his constituents.
On Friday I did a presentation on TOXIC THEOLOGY at a conference in the Netherlands. Because of the shooting at the Catholic school in Minneapolis, I changed the focus of my talk at the last minute. You can read it here on my Substack: drterridaniel535413.substack.com/p/where-were...
A C T I O N S‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ Prayers don’t disarm—policy does
Do people, on the left, want the government, that they insist is a fascist dictatorship, to take the guns from the people?
GOP message for 3+ decades: "Fuck off and pray"
Faith without works...
Ooo I love this guy. This is what we all need to say. Theological malpractice, indeed!
"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" (James 2:20). Any Christian who offers thoughts and prayers, without also taking concrete action to prevent these atrocities from happening again - their faith is dead.
👏👏👏 yes yes yes, exactly!!
Keep making TN proud Brother Jones.
Change is in our representatives hands. Period. The Republican congresspeople REFUSE to do it. They are simply are being paid by the NRA to refuse. Stop lobbying and we might see some actual representation.
"When you pray, you move your hands and feet." This is a simple, powerful message.
Thank you Rep Jones for speaking truth to power. The “thoughts and prayers” cult is just another way of saying they do not give a damn about dead children
Preach!!
Indeed.
"The lord helps those who help themselves." Not actually in the Bible, but righteous advice attributable to the ancient Greeks, and my Mom.
🖕 religion We can and have done much better. Humans have been around much longer than organized religion.
Justin Jones is great.
As the principal at Annunciation quoted, ''...When you pray, use your feet...''
I'm pretty convinced at this point that God's not going to answer any prayers until we actually do stuff to prevent things from happening.
And actions work
Exactly. If you claim to care about the teachings of Christ, Jesus didn't ask his followers to pray for the poor and the sick and the hungry. He asked them to HELP the poor and the sick and the hungry.
Faith used to be the reason why you do what you do. Now it's an excuse to do nothing.
or an excuse to do worse.
Love this kid!
Faith without works is dead
We were already shaming "thoughts and prayers" types but now that actual faith leaders are doing it too... I have hope that poor people in Red states will eventually have had enough of Republican nonsense.
“Thoughts and prayers” is meant to be meaningless. It says, “We will not change gun laws even when confronted by children being murdered.” It’s a cynical phrase.
If praying worked, Trump would not have been elected and well.......he'd be six feet under already. I guess we need to pray harder.
My Swiss grandmother (1884-1966), a devout Catholic who went to mass every morning, lived by the maxim: Help Yourself And God will Help You. Her principle predates Stephen Covey’s “Principle of Choice”. (Google)
It says in James 2 faith without works is dead.
Who? What? Where?
Prayer, like masturbation, makes you feel as if you’ve accomplished something. Unlike prayer though, masturbation does accomplish something.
“When you pray, you move your hands and feet” - I love it
And ignorance. My mom prayed for help for dad’s cancer. Ppl came to the door with food. Mom turned them away saying they didn’t need handouts. 😳
Yes. God gives us tools and watches to see if we do good with them. We CHOOSE to waste the potential of society and lay waste to everything. If we're being tested we are failing to levels that are surely shocking to God who must be face-palming every 5 seconds.
And the other false belief is 'manifestations'. It blows my mind how many people believe that uttering words can make things come true. How has that become a thing? It's nearly universal. 'My child hasn't come home.' 'Have you called hospitals?' 'How dare you! Why would you say (manifest) that!'
this this this this this! call them OUT and shame them non-stop. The religious hypocrisy is what galls me most of all.
Preach.
Pray for things you have NO control over CHANGE the things YOU DO have CONTROL OVER and can't stand
This guy is always on point!
Damn correct. They say thoughts and prayers and forget they have the power to do something to alleviate the situation. God works through people. GOP dumbasses.
God helps those who help themselves
That quote is technically not in the Bible and it's usually used to abuse the powerless who can't help themselves, towards whom God's heart actually bends. But yeah what the politicians are trying to do is malpractice.. they're beating a faith that's dead.
That quote is indeed scary in the evil ways it is often used. It's was a favorite for the same clowns who loved using the word "bootstraps". They were disingenuous too.
No He doesn’t, read Job.
Whole ass book talking about how what you do in the kingdoms of men means nothing to whether the Kingdom of God is owed to you, and every two-bit CCD Sunday School dipshit just ignores it. Christ on a Cross, if this is Christianity, we’re fucked.
Faith without works is dead
Boom
I like Talarico’s take in this clip. He uses charity as the subject, but the point is more broadly about affecting lasting change: “We are called to do more than charity. We are called to challenge the systems that make charity necessary.”
Our nation needs Talarico 🫶
Amen
Great to see this being said by those that spent considerable time in church services.
Amen
God only helps those who help themselves.
I can't love this man enough.
I wonder what their all powerful god thinks when Republicans supposedly pray to him to stop these gun rampages yet literally do nothing within their own power. Kind of like when they go to confess their sins with no solemn plan to not sin any further.
In the 1980s it was God helps those who help themselves. The same 1980s that saw Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous & Donald Trump move from slum lord to "legitimacy."
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And, you can’t pray for something to change that has already happened. These people need to learn their own religion
We need action not words!