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Monika FBPE @monika-uk.bsky.social

Oh, "a massive leap". So not "non-sequitur" after all? How do you think human mind works? And how many of your own actions result from conscious thought?

jun 19, 2025, 4:14 pm • 0 0

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Timlagor @timlagor.bsky.social

A massive non sequitur leap

jun 19, 2025, 4:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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Monika FBPE @monika-uk.bsky.social

I'm not totally serious, but tell me honestly, did you read (it was recent) that emotions arise in a body a moment before thoughts connected with those emotions? It would suggest that intelligence doesn't reside in the brain as much as it is interpreted by it.

jun 19, 2025, 6:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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Timlagor @timlagor.bsky.social

Not just emotions but actual decisions to act (apparently). I don't have strong opinions about how intelligence works -I was just pointing out that your claim had a great big gaping hole where the argument should be.

jun 19, 2025, 6:59 pm • 0 0 • view
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Monika FBPE @monika-uk.bsky.social

That's how my brain works and I'm projecting, thinking that everyone can make these leaps. I'm happy being questioned further. I'm not a researcher and I rely on other people's work. But I feel instinctively that AI has a drawback of not having the body, and I think that's obvious to everyone.

jun 20, 2025, 6:48 am • 0 0 • view
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Timlagor @timlagor.bsky.social

I'm sorry I used "massive leap" now. I didn't anticipate you viewing that as a goo thing. I was just paraphrasing. I absolutely do not agree that having a body to provide inputs is a requirement. It's most certainly an *asset* but "drawback" is a long way from prerequisite.

jun 20, 2025, 11:18 am • 0 0 • view
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Timlagor @timlagor.bsky.social

I urge you to read the first 60 pages of Diaspora by Greg Egan (it also features the best fictional aliens -Wang's Carpets- later)

jun 20, 2025, 11:19 am • 0 0 • view
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Timlagor @timlagor.bsky.social

NB. I'm not suggesting the Diaspora approach is the only option either, it's just really good reading. I think there's a decent chance we will get to true AI if civilization lasts long enough to build better quantum computers -just a chance: you can't know until you get there

jun 20, 2025, 11:22 am • 0 0 • view
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Monika FBPE @monika-uk.bsky.social

There is a fundamental difference between yours and mine understanding of intelligence: I see it as the sum total of all the learning of the human being, not just intellectualism of the brain. Therefore for me it is the wisdom of all human cells including brain, plus all the microbiota >

jun 20, 2025, 1:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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Monika FBPE @monika-uk.bsky.social

...and infinite interaction between them. We don't yet know where this "intelligence" is stored. Neurons and DNA are possibly just part of the story, and internal (and to some degree external) environment might be also keepers of intelligence. For example, consider this:>

jun 20, 2025, 1:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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Monika FBPE @monika-uk.bsky.social

...what triggers a particular muscle memory of a concert pianist? How and where is this information stored so his fingers play notes in a particular order in one piece, and don't mix it up with the notes of a different piece, randomly?

jun 20, 2025, 1:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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Timlagor @timlagor.bsky.social

Also potentially pertinent is that biology uses quantum mechanics.

jun 19, 2025, 7:00 pm • 1 0 • view