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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

oh my god. friend works for a very specialized high-end manufacturing firm. this is a photo of their station running an automated test system which is used weekly as part of their production workflow. the current state of manufacturing in america!

an original IBM PC, montior, and keyboard on a desk. part of the screen is blocked out to censor the reflection of the room.
aug 15, 2025, 8:33 pm • 301 18

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Paul Cohen @paulecohen.bsky.social

that keyboard is worth its weight in gold

aug 15, 2025, 10:17 pm • 9 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

I have two of them, one of which i daily drive

aug 16, 2025, 12:42 am • 4 0 • view
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Paul Cohen @paulecohen.bsky.social

I envy you! I use an F122 and an F77 from the ModelFKeyboards project - they're fantastic, but they aren't quite the same as a genuine IBM article

aug 16, 2025, 12:45 am • 2 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

I bought mine before prices were totally absurd and I’m so glad I did

aug 16, 2025, 12:48 am • 2 0 • view
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Drozd, but backwards @dzord.bsky.social

My model M just recently started acting strange, and I’m beside myself. Just when a colleague who hates the clicky noise retired, the keyboard went sideways!

aug 16, 2025, 1:23 am • 3 0 • view
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Paul Cohen @paulecohen.bsky.social

I'm told model ms thrive on hate

aug 16, 2025, 1:25 am • 4 0 • view
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Paul Cohen @paulecohen.bsky.social

(and hoping your keyboard reverts to normal performance!)

aug 16, 2025, 1:25 am • 3 0 • view
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Drozd, but backwards @dzord.bsky.social

Haha, yes, thank you. Me too! That’s why I still have it, hoping some cleaning or something will do the trick. Got a kick out of using a keyboard older than many of my coworkers!

aug 16, 2025, 1:29 am • 3 0 • view
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Drozd, but backwards @dzord.bsky.social

It did, but that person who hated the noise was my boss’ boss!

aug 16, 2025, 1:26 am • 3 0 • view
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Matt Salomone @matthematics.com

My thoughts exactly. Keyboard technology really peaked when the springs buckled

aug 16, 2025, 12:28 am • 3 0 • view
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Paul Cohen @paulecohen.bsky.social

if anyone wants to get rid of their 1980s-era Model Fs please please PLEASE DM me!

aug 16, 2025, 12:39 am • 2 0 • view
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Doctor Memory @blank.org

Holy shit. I’ve seen live Windows 98 boxes at client sites but this beats anything I’ve encountered so far. Manufacturing is a _trip_. Usually into the distant past.

aug 15, 2025, 10:15 pm • 3 0 • view
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Jared 🔶 @quantumjared.bsky.social

Genuinely thought for a second that said “69420 bytes available” and that your friend was pulling your leg

aug 16, 2025, 2:21 pm • 2 0 • view
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Esau @gesau.bsky.social

Nuclear missile silos were using floppy disks until 2019 www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/u...

aug 15, 2025, 10:57 pm • 7 1 • view
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Belmont Mayor Jordan @belmontfakemare.bsky.social

Cassette Basic C1.1! Load "donkey.bas"

aug 15, 2025, 10:43 pm • 2 0 • view
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🍅🥔🫐🌽 hoopy frood 🌶️ 🥑🍫🌵 @huwupy.kawaii.social

I’m sure a nontrivial number of Japanese manufacturers have something similar lurking somewhere

aug 15, 2025, 8:35 pm • 9 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

i mean, the zilog z80 was launched in 1976 and is still in production today because literally every embedded system runs on it

aug 15, 2025, 8:38 pm • 18 0 • view
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Mark Hamann @ki7bda.bsky.social

Literally?

aug 15, 2025, 10:24 pm • 1 0 • view
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jtgyk 🇨🇦 @jtgyk.bsky.social

Literally-ish :)

aug 15, 2025, 11:17 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tim @snowgoons.ro

Yeah, the 8051 called and would seriously like to have a word...

aug 16, 2025, 4:46 am • 2 0 • view
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Mark Hamann @ki7bda.bsky.social

It's ARM's world. Z-80 and 8051 just live in it.

aug 16, 2025, 11:14 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tim @snowgoons.ro

Ahh, youngsters... ;-). In all seriousness, yes increasingly so. But don't underestimate the number of 8051 cores baked - royalty free - into everything from garage door openers to LCD controllers. ARM is expensive and ridiculous overkill in many *true* embedded apps.

aug 17, 2025, 6:35 am • 2 0 • view
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jtgyk 🇨🇦 @jtgyk.bsky.social

They actually stopped making them last year! (Source: www.youtube.com/shorts/KEhoS...)

aug 15, 2025, 11:17 pm • 8 0 • view
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Mark Hamann @ki7bda.bsky.social

It's just the 40 pin DIP that's discontinued. There are still microcontrollers that are Z-80 based.

aug 15, 2025, 11:22 pm • 9 0 • view
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Jason Gilbert @jrgilbert.bsky.social

Prof in analytics program: most stuff is in a relational database. There used to be hierarchical databases, but you’ll probably never see one. Me in healthcare analytics job: 85% of health records are in (guess which EMR system), which is a hierarchical database.

aug 15, 2025, 9:51 pm • 11 0 • view
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Carter Wickstrom @carterwickstrom.bsky.social

that brings me back; my first real programming job was writing test code to validate CRUD operations on a proprietary hierarchical database

aug 15, 2025, 10:15 pm • 4 0 • view
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(dialupready) @dialupready.com

MUMPS space sensitive, stringly typed language that writes to the user-structured b-tree my beloved

aug 16, 2025, 6:33 am • 1 0 • view
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(dialupready) @dialupready.com

columns are numbered, not named. security checks are adhoc code. writing a query means dipping into a pre-C language of the insane all American health data in this

aug 16, 2025, 6:34 am • 1 0 • view
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Steve @stevesaylor.dev

Used to run tests on quartz crystal oscillators that were on their way to DoD and NASA on a 486 with the "Turbo" button. I think the test software was designed around the clock speed of the computer.

aug 15, 2025, 8:42 pm • 5 0 • view
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WaitingForJarnathan @waiting4jarnathan.bsky.social

Often times it is the auxiliary hardware that is the issue. The is some calibrated doohickey attached to it that you can’t replace. Some times is the software. There is some closed source program that a company produced. Some times it’s both. I ran a lot of old computers in labs for both.

aug 16, 2025, 12:22 am • 1 0 • view
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roland00 / Matthew @roland00.bsky.social

me loving the past and the future I do not need a 56k modem, or internet in general for an appliance

aug 15, 2025, 10:44 pm • 2 0 • view
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roland00 / Matthew @roland00.bsky.social

we only recently in the last 10 years (do not make me look up the dates) the nuclear launch machines with the chain of command for we can no longer source the parts for floppy disks and so on (we need to be able to repair stuff) and for a while this was an advantage for we had a storehouse of

aug 15, 2025, 10:46 pm • 3 0 • view
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roland00 / Matthew @roland00.bsky.social

backups to repair the stuff but it was security by obscurity where this stuff will always be air-gapped and you can not plug in a usb and so on it was physical even if it was also electronic

aug 15, 2025, 10:47 pm • 2 0 • view
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Vivian M. Lumbard @vivian-m-lumbard.bsky.social

Part of the appeal may be that the old programming language has been thoroughly debugged by now and no surprises show up in that arena anymore. New tech, new bugs to work out.

aug 15, 2025, 10:31 pm • 1 0 • view
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Greg Olsen @gtotango.bsky.social

30 years ago, I was hired at a bank to among other things maintain 15-year-old COBOL code that generated the magnetic tape of 1099s that was sent to the IRS. Could they still be sending 9-track tapes?

aug 15, 2025, 11:48 pm • 2 0 • view
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Vivian M. Lumbard @vivian-m-lumbard.bsky.social

In 1990/91, I was a seasonal data transcriber for the IRS (thankfully, they quickly moved me to key verification for payments because entering 1040s was mind-numbing). I would not be surprised if the machines I used also had the same tapes. System actually worked very well from my lowly perspective.

aug 15, 2025, 11:59 pm • 3 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

Iirc the irs is still on the same masterfile system

aug 16, 2025, 12:52 am • 3 0 • view
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Greg Olsen @gtotango.bsky.social

So the bank that acquired the bank that acquired the one I worked for has 45 year old COBOL code hanging around.

aug 16, 2025, 1:06 am • 2 0 • view
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Parkscope Joe @parkscopejoe.bsky.social

Depends on the task and the company but we’re all windows 11 now

aug 15, 2025, 8:51 pm • 0 0 • view
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Christo Silvia @christosilvia.bsky.social

As it should be. If it works don't fucking touch it

aug 15, 2025, 8:53 pm • 4 0 • view
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Christo Silvia @christosilvia.bsky.social

But yeah definitely there should be another one

aug 15, 2025, 8:53 pm • 4 0 • view
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Linotype Pilgrim @symbo1ics.bsky.social

this is fine actually when the current state of the art is 'ai' shit you better keep hold of things that WORK

aug 16, 2025, 4:02 am • 0 0 • view
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John Soo 🏳️‍🌈 @jsoo.refl.club

My experience with manufacturing usually says that these systems are (or are perceived) to be "too critical to replace". Which is of course Not how you get Resilience

aug 16, 2025, 2:36 am • 0 0 • view
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Rocky Flats Chimney Sweep 🇺🇸 @midlifesuezcrisis.bsky.social

This is the oldest I think I've ever seen, wow. I thought the steel industry had it bad. There are critical and less critical national security items produced on 1960s equipment w/Windows 95 on the control PC, but the PC itself is like...post 2000 lol

aug 16, 2025, 1:06 am • 5 0 • view
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Bobson Dugnutt @foolishmortal.bsky.social

There is a very strong "If it ain't broke don't fix it" strain in money making enterprises.

aug 15, 2025, 8:38 pm • 7 0 • view
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Iain Sutherland🇨🇦 @iainsut.bsky.social

XT?

aug 15, 2025, 10:19 pm • 0 0 • view
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Sarah @sarahftduration.bsky.social

Tests in BASIC using serial/parallel: easy to move to new hardware. Custom ISA card, custom app, no source code, company that made it is long gone: much bigger challenge. Recommendation: port to Raspberry Pi with touchscreen. Buy 50 years worth of spares! 😆

aug 15, 2025, 8:53 pm • 13 1 • view
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build-er-berg workshop @werrrp.bsky.social

you could probably even find a GW-BASIC emulator and run the same code on the Pi

aug 16, 2025, 1:16 am • 3 0 • view
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Charles Kinbote @ckinbote1982.bsky.social

Cries in enterprise infrastructure admin There's systems at my shop that were state of the art when Reagan was in office

aug 15, 2025, 8:44 pm • 12 0 • view
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HudsonRiverCroc @hudsonrivercroc.bsky.social

I wonder how easy, if at all, it is to hack that thing and bust their production line

aug 15, 2025, 10:42 pm • 3 0 • view
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dhsnwnkl.bsky.social @dhsnwnkl.bsky.social

Step 1: physical access. Step 2. Find anyone under 40 that knows PCDOS

aug 16, 2025, 1:10 am • 5 0 • view
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Eric Blyler @ericblyler.bsky.social

That thing probably couldn’t even connect to today’s internet.

aug 16, 2025, 6:23 pm • 2 0 • view
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HudsonRiverCroc @hudsonrivercroc.bsky.social

Yeah, that’s what I am thinking

aug 16, 2025, 6:25 pm • 2 0 • view
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Ken MacLennan @historiken.bsky.social

two--two!--5.25" floppy drives!

aug 15, 2025, 10:44 pm • 2 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

like, to be clear here: this thing is actually running the automated tests on newly-assembled very specialized thingys (I can't say exactly what). again, people who don't work in manufacturing don't realize what it's like out here (there's a reason they still make motherboards with ISA slots...)

aug 15, 2025, 8:36 pm • 132 0 • view
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Noel @breadhiking.com

Until we recently deprecated it from our work flow because we could order film more cheaply than supplies, we were still using a Linotype RIP that needed files sent to it from a PowerMac G4, and the RIP itself needed a HD no larger than ~500MB and loaded software from 5 1/2 floppy drives

aug 15, 2025, 10:53 pm • 1 0 • view
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Cao Cao Power Hour Enthusiast @statsboyandi.bsky.social

I showed this to my brother in law who works in energy generation and he said “I feel this more deeply than you can know”

aug 16, 2025, 1:00 am • 1 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

I’m in manufacturing! This is one of the oldest systems I’ve seen in production but 40yrs old isn’t unheard kf

aug 16, 2025, 1:03 am • 1 0 • view
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Cao Cao Power Hour Enthusiast @statsboyandi.bsky.social

My brother in as does like control/it systems for power plants and everything I hear is terrifying lol

aug 16, 2025, 1:07 am • 1 0 • view
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Drozd, but backwards @dzord.bsky.social

And even on the used market those manufacturing-oriented motherboards are fucking expensive. If you don’t need to do audio or video processing, you don’t need much for monitoring/watchdog. Nowadays we use microcontrollers, just a very limited CPU.

aug 16, 2025, 1:15 am • 1 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

for the people asking "if it ain't broke, why mess with it": there is no replacement for this machine. if it explodes, the production goes down until they can drop in a new IBM PC from 1981.

aug 15, 2025, 8:37 pm • 141 5 • view
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Ewen McNeill @ewenmcneill.bsky.social

The IBM 5150 (original PC) seems to have been made up to 1987. There's a chance it's under 40 years old 😀 FWIW, there were a lot of "very close" clones of the IBM PC back in the day, and ISA slots persisted into the 1990s. So they have options only ~30 years old. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Per...

aug 16, 2025, 3:27 am • 2 0 • view
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Matt Ficke @mattficke.bsky.social

I have one of these exact machines sitting in my parents’ basement if they need a spare. Still have the Space Invaders 5 1/4” floppy in it.

aug 16, 2025, 12:46 am • 3 0 • view
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Eric Blyler @ericblyler.bsky.social

There is a large niche of highly skilled engineers who for very practical reasons prefer to use pre-Pentium intel processors because of their incredible low error rates. Most new CPUs and virtually all GPUs are next to useless for their purposes.

aug 16, 2025, 6:20 pm • 1 0 • view
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Ben Warner @bpw87544.bsky.social

I used to have production machines that could only interface with a particular model of Power Mac G5 We bought every one that showed up on eBay so that we could stay in production

aug 15, 2025, 8:42 pm • 9 0 • view
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wiredog @wiredog.bsky.social

A variant of this: xkcd.com/2347/

aug 15, 2025, 10:44 pm • 3 0 • view
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jajajaboo.bsky.social @jajajaboo.bsky.social

Poor vision and risk management from IT (maybe not empowered) and business. Once you get above a given size these days your IT org and strategy has to be coherent and pretty solid. Always a challenge

aug 16, 2025, 1:29 am • 1 0 • view
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sunsetcrest.bsky.social @sunsetcrest.bsky.social

Hell yeah! Looks like an original 8088! Upgraded maybe to a 10 MB HDD. All integer calcs. No numeric coprocessor

aug 16, 2025, 12:24 am • 3 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

Chatted with the guy tonight. Coprocessor but no HDD.

aug 16, 2025, 12:51 am • 3 0 • view
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sunsetcrest.bsky.social @sunsetcrest.bsky.social

So they're saying they boot from floppy each day to run this? Omg! This is real.old school!!

aug 16, 2025, 3:04 am • 3 0 • view
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Nfinit @nfinit.bsky.social

Yeah, HDD would have died ages ago. I'm not even sure if those things had fans. Without an HDD, that computer might not have any moving parts outside of the floppy drive.

aug 16, 2025, 1:16 am • 1 0 • view
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Simon @simon-blone.bsky.social

Yeah but there’s a post it next to the power point that says DO NOT UNPLUG. It’s fine

aug 16, 2025, 12:10 am • 2 0 • view
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Suncrush @suncrush.bsky.social

NASA used to send people to flea markets to find replacement computer parts for the space shuttle.

aug 15, 2025, 8:40 pm • 35 0 • view
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🪩 Brutus ⚔️ @culturesurfer.bsky.social

You need some Ukrainian Engineers to fix and reverse model it.

aug 16, 2025, 1:06 am • 1 0 • view
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Wandering Hoo @wanderlib.bsky.social

I think there was an article about starting up the old Stinger production line because of Ukraine, and they had to go hunt down retirees and throw money at them because half of it was very specialize manual labor no one had done for years.

aug 15, 2025, 10:23 pm • 10 0 • view
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Nfinit @nfinit.bsky.social

That thing hasn't died in nearly 45 years. If the capacitors hold up it'll be fine.

aug 16, 2025, 1:11 am • 1 0 • view
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Regime Accountant, CPA ☠️🎢 @regimecpa.bsky.social

I have great news for you about how financial infrastructure works.

aug 15, 2025, 10:17 pm • 70 0 • view
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Convolver @convolver.bsky.social

One of my stories is about a little-noticed Sun SPARC 10 that was shoved in an empty cubicle and quietly maintained about a third of American corporate Internet access, and that the only source code for it existed as several hundred pages of printouts with handwritten annotations.

aug 15, 2025, 10:35 pm • 10 0 • view
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Convolver @convolver.bsky.social

(Amongst other things, the box was officially listed as an employee, because the department that owned it was too terrified to either move it onto a different network or place it in a data center where they couldn’t get immediate access to it, so it had to have a cubicle permanently assigned to it.)

aug 15, 2025, 10:37 pm • 10 0 • view
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boarders.bsky.social @boarders.bsky.social

Tons of stuff in the Bloomberg terminal is still Fortran 77

aug 16, 2025, 1:07 am • 6 0 • view
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boarders.bsky.social @boarders.bsky.social

Which I might remind you all is a language that automatically treats everything after the 72nd character on a line as a comment

aug 16, 2025, 1:13 am • 4 0 • view
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ernesto @ernesto.bsky.social

given how much time and effort has been wasted bikeshedding line length lint rules, this was an enlightened decision

aug 16, 2025, 1:14 am • 4 0 • view
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boarders.bsky.social @boarders.bsky.social

One might think so until one has a bug from a line ending “* 100”

aug 16, 2025, 1:41 am • 1 0 • view
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Snowjob @snowjob.bsky.social

Ain't no company that wants to invest in infrastructure! Let alone *financial* infrastructure! That's what governments are for, and then they privatize it!

aug 15, 2025, 10:23 pm • 3 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

I know someone in the COBOL trenches at ADP. She has seen horrors beyond comprehension

aug 16, 2025, 12:59 am • 22 0 • view
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Regime Accountant, CPA ☠️🎢 @regimecpa.bsky.social

I started my career in bank audit and I have truly been scared

aug 16, 2025, 1:00 am • 17 0 • view
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nick @caveatruptur.bsky.social

I find it hilarious that crypto bros want to make all transactions immutable

aug 16, 2025, 1:09 am • 14 0 • view
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irredeemablebunny.bsky.social @irredeemablebunny.bsky.social

It is hilarious for many reasons, but my favorite one is "so are you a scammer or a mark?".

aug 16, 2025, 3:14 am • 5 0 • view
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nick @caveatruptur.bsky.social

About a decade ago I was brought in as part of a team to help a very large bank determine the source of a persistent error. It took 20 employees and 20 consultants 3 days to solve the problem.

aug 16, 2025, 1:15 am • 4 0 • view
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Regime Accountant, CPA ☠️🎢 @regimecpa.bsky.social

Bank fraud audits of newly launched products

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aug 16, 2025, 1:20 am • 4 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

Thousand man-hours of labor ain’t bad for a legacy system…

aug 16, 2025, 1:17 am • 3 0 • view
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joyeux noel @aiyaruk.bsky.social

LOAD 👏 BEARING 👏 SPREADSHEET 👏

aug 15, 2025, 10:21 pm • 32 1 • view
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sunsetcrest.bsky.social @sunsetcrest.bsky.social

You bet. Excel 97.

aug 16, 2025, 12:19 am • 5 0 • view
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Haydon is reading The Uncertain Center, Arthur C McGill @haydonmp.bsky.social

It’s far worse than that I’m afraid.

aug 16, 2025, 1:00 am • 4 0 • view
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Charles Kinbote @ckinbote1982.bsky.social

Had a similar system at where I work that literally had one job of being able to access the very bespoke admin console of an 80s mainframe, and the only reason we were able to retire it was someone took the initiative to create a Java emulator - green screen UI and everything else - to replace it

aug 15, 2025, 8:47 pm • 3 0 • view
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OODA Stan Acct 🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸🇺🇦 @lampsofgold.bsky.social

or until they spend $5m++ porting it to a new machine

aug 15, 2025, 8:45 pm • 2 0 • view
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Raven Onthill @ravenonthill.bsky.social

It's not on the internet, so it can't be broken into. The software is simple and reliable. There's a moral.

aug 15, 2025, 8:55 pm • 4 0 • view
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Joyce Reynolds-Ward Klone's Stronghold: Reeni is FINISHED!!!! @joycereynoldsward.bsky.social

Nods. Secure as hell. There are times when I really want my old DOS machine with WP 5.1 for certain things...especially since I can then scrutinize the root directory WITH WORD PERFECT.

aug 15, 2025, 9:20 pm • 3 0 • view
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Il Pomodoro @dabenner.bsky.social

That piece ain't ever gonna die

aug 16, 2025, 12:47 am • 2 0 • view
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Satanley (the first 'a' is silent) @satanley.bsky.social

Loved those keyboards!

aug 15, 2025, 8:38 pm • 1 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

stil daily my model M

aug 15, 2025, 8:40 pm • 2 0 • view
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Níðhöggr, chewing on ice cubes @noghiri.bsky.social

as it turns out there's another, second bathtub curve after the first one but it's sloped

aug 15, 2025, 8:42 pm • 13 0 • view
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Kysaku Natsume 🇲🇽🇯🇵🇺🇦 @kysakunatsume.bsky.social

I have a box with new 8” Verbatim floppy disks in case your nuclear launch system needs them.

aug 15, 2025, 9:03 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jason @jlopez10111.bsky.social

Honest question, is it because the owners are too cheap to upgrade? The margins too thin? Or is it that when it comes time to replace the plant they are just going to do it in another country?

aug 15, 2025, 10:34 pm • 2 0 • view
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Marshall Abrams @marshall0i.bsky.social

The code might be written in 8088 assembly language or in a version of BASIC or C or Fortran that doesn't run on anything else. Or as someone else suggested in this thread, the computer may interface with hardware using cards that only work on this kind of machine, and require custom programming.

aug 16, 2025, 4:13 am • 4 0 • view
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Marshall Abrams @marshall0i.bsky.social

I don't know how it is now, but back then external device interfaces could be nasty. Change a bit there, another one over there, etc. Didn't make much sense, and the documentation could be horrible. Summary: Switching to something more modern might be a lot of work, and few people know enough.

aug 16, 2025, 4:16 am • 1 0 • view
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dan @kersplort.bsky.social

As a programmer I feel a little responsible.

aug 15, 2025, 10:33 pm • 1 0 • view
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joyeux noel @aiyaruk.bsky.social

Load bearing Windows 5.1 (I worked for a mfg'r that had an inventory system dating to the 80's that required an emulator to access and had, I shit you not, 1k entries that were just 'bolt' without any other information)

aug 15, 2025, 9:10 pm • 10 1 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

who else up inventorying their BOLT

aug 15, 2025, 9:12 pm • 9 0 • view
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Mel, AnarcHochulist 🏳️‍⚧️🔰♨️ @astruckpersonn.bsky.social

what’s up gamers? today we’re gonna be grinding out some cool inventory strats and BOLTing on the noobs

aug 15, 2025, 9:25 pm • 5 0 • view
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Meridith and the soul crushing humidity of summer 😰 @meridith.bsky.social

I imagine they've got a few backup machines, sourced from eBay or old company liquidations.

aug 15, 2025, 8:40 pm • 6 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

yeah they'd be fools not to have a few of these (and parts) in the basement, but like,....

aug 15, 2025, 8:41 pm • 5 0 • view
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Joyce Reynolds-Ward Klone's Stronghold: Reeni is FINISHED!!!! @joycereynoldsward.bsky.social

Heck, just go to school district supply liquidations! I was doing a LOT with ancient tech eleven years ago....

aug 15, 2025, 9:21 pm • 2 0 • view
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Meridith and the soul crushing humidity of summer 😰 @meridith.bsky.social

100% but also...I don't think this situation is unusual 😭

aug 15, 2025, 8:42 pm • 4 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

oh it's common, it's just wild to see it

aug 15, 2025, 8:44 pm • 4 0 • view
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Vajr @vajuko.bsky.social

Oh wow, I used to play Ultima on this exact set up!

aug 16, 2025, 12:06 am • 1 0 • view
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Joel @exadyto.bsky.social

Surely you could emulate this on, like, a fraction of a Raspberry Pi?

aug 15, 2025, 10:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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Flip @flipcreations.bsky.social

Thought the same thing. A VM running the version of OS. There are ways.

aug 15, 2025, 11:01 pm • 1 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

VMs generally have a lot of trouble with the low level hardware access that industrial systems require

aug 16, 2025, 12:55 am • 5 0 • view
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Joel @exadyto.bsky.social

Bigger tech challenge is probably finding adapters from your modern computer to the old tech, but I’m sure it’s been done.

aug 15, 2025, 11:47 pm • 2 0 • view
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jhwkco.bsky.social @jhwkco.bsky.social

Many such cases. I write an engineering reports regularly that say “you don’t have to replace this piece of esoteric electronics now because it works right now, but if you don’t and it breaks your [x] won’t work until you install a whole new system and that will take months”

aug 15, 2025, 10:44 pm • 2 0 • view
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jhwkco.bsky.social @jhwkco.bsky.social

Of course the reports are rarely heeded but at least the operators have prices of paper to shake at their bosses when [x] is down for months.

aug 15, 2025, 10:45 pm • 2 0 • view
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Erin @shiitake74.bsky.social

Do they have 5.25" floppy disk backups?

aug 15, 2025, 9:08 pm • 1 0 • view
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EmilyInParis @cshlgvdajce830.bsky.social

institutional knowledge + single point of failure = job security

aug 15, 2025, 11:21 pm • 3 0 • view
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The Gray Matters Report @graymattersrep.bsky.social

the antiquated underpinning of far more than people realize somewhere right now there's someone still using a dial-up connection to prop up one small function who has the fate of the whole world in their hands

aug 15, 2025, 8:46 pm • 15 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

just going off my gut, modems over analog phone lines support around 15% of intra- and inter- plant communications

aug 15, 2025, 8:47 pm • 15 0 • view
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Níðhöggr, chewing on ice cubes @noghiri.bsky.social

there's a big push to go to 4g/LTE for this right now, including private 5gNR low band deployments, because the parts to keep POTS going are becoming scarse

aug 15, 2025, 8:51 pm • 9 1 • view
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Níðhöggr, chewing on ice cubes @noghiri.bsky.social

err, 5gIOT (too many acronyms rattling around in here)

aug 15, 2025, 8:52 pm • 7 0 • view
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Wesley 🏳️‍🌈❌👑 @wessaidwords.bsky.social

I really enjoyed this video and I think it was eye opening to most who watch it youtu.be/3ZTGwcHQfLY?...

aug 15, 2025, 8:38 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bumblebike @bumblebike.bsky.social

Radiology labs too. My father had two pallet crates of these PCs in the garage for emergency client runs… should tell him to ask at the next retiree meeting if anyone still has any.

aug 15, 2025, 8:43 pm • 2 0 • view
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Malaclypse the Middle @malaclypse.bsky.social

I bought my first PC in 1990, and it had 1 3.5 drive and 1 5.25. 2 5.25s has got to be closer to 1985.

aug 15, 2025, 8:38 pm • 2 0 • view
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Malaclypse the Middle @malaclypse.bsky.social

And thinking this thru, that means it’s gotta be running DOS not Windows

aug 15, 2025, 8:53 pm • 3 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

it's running IBM BASIC, as you can see on the screen

aug 15, 2025, 8:56 pm • 5 0 • view
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Drozd, but backwards @dzord.bsky.social

I have a Pentium 4 machine running Win98 that *should* be able to deal with PC BASIC unless doing special calls to 16-bit memory. I should send them an offer lol.

aug 16, 2025, 1:25 am • 2 0 • view
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Malaclypse the Middle @malaclypse.bsky.social

Sorry, couldn't see the screen on my phone. Damn.

aug 15, 2025, 10:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tamara Keel @tamslick.bsky.social

If you play with very old digicams, the kind where your storage medium is still measured in megabytes, you’re competing with machine tool operators for Compact Flash cards…

aug 16, 2025, 6:37 am • 3 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

Hey I’ve got a win98 hobby box and need some of those too! (Fastest that machine has ever booted….)

aug 16, 2025, 6:08 pm • 2 0 • view
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Tamara Keel @tamslick.bsky.social

You are tempting me into dragging out an ancient P2-ish tower to do nothing but play Diablo and US Navy Fighters…

aug 16, 2025, 6:10 pm • 3 0 • view
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Nied 🔷 @nied.bsky.social

Janes ATF tho...

aug 16, 2025, 6:13 pm • 2 0 • view
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Tamara Keel @tamslick.bsky.social

We spent so many weekends with the VarkLib mods in Jane’s USN Fighters Gold. I’d finally go to sleep on Sunday afternoon hearing the tone of a Sidewinder getting lock echoing in my head…

aug 16, 2025, 6:17 pm • 3 0 • view
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ellen teapot 🇨🇦🏳️‍⚧️ @ellenteapot.ca

Okay, hit me, what is an ISA card you would need to be able to plug into a new motherboard

aug 16, 2025, 1:07 am • 1 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

Most of it is the custom or semi custom hardware interfaces for a bespoke bit of manufacturing equipment

aug 16, 2025, 1:09 am • 1 0 • view
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Salthegeek @salthegeek.bsky.social

This is also GRRM’s set up.

aug 15, 2025, 11:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

I thought he was a Mac guy?

aug 16, 2025, 12:54 am • 0 0 • view
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Salthegeek @salthegeek.bsky.social

He has an early 90’s PC he writes or wrote on. Don’t know if he still does or if it crashed and took all his drafts with it.

aug 16, 2025, 12:55 am • 2 0 • view
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radgen.bsky.social @radgen.bsky.social

If it still works.... don't fuck with it. Also the more niche the use the more likely you see really old stuff being used.

aug 15, 2025, 8:34 pm • 8 0 • view
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Nate is waking up @nf1nk.bsky.social

New custom hardware is crazy expensive and having it work with your existing systems is spotty at best. For an air gapped system that works, let it work until it doesn’t.

aug 15, 2025, 8:37 pm • 6 0 • view
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Linotype Pilgrim @symbo1ics.bsky.social

and then you can generally component level repair it because it hasn't suffered the absolute financialised rotting out of the past 30 years in tech

aug 16, 2025, 4:03 am • 1 0 • view
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JohnB (@1jb1) @1jb1.bsky.social

Oh my, I had one of those in 1983 - had 2 5 1/4 discs for storage

aug 15, 2025, 8:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kysaku Natsume 🇲🇽🇯🇵🇺🇦 @kysakunatsume.bsky.social

At first I imagined that someone slapped the IBM logo on a Tandy color monitor.

aug 15, 2025, 9:01 pm • 2 0 • view
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Benson @benson.bsky.social

When you absolutely, positively got to C:\> every motherboard in the room

aug 15, 2025, 9:10 pm • 5 0 • view
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❀°。Der Siebenschläfer *.゚✿ ⋆ @sababausa.bsky.social

When I walked through this company’s factory they had a few of those black & green monitors with one of those floppy drives with the big actually-floppy disks bsky.app/profile/saba...

aug 15, 2025, 11:01 pm • 3 0 • view
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recycledpies.bsky.social @recycledpies.bsky.social

Until very recently I was keeping an OKIdata triple-ply printer working for a finance office in a small car shop.

aug 15, 2025, 11:52 pm • 4 0 • view
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PenguinGuy @penguinguy.bsky.social

Anyone who works even tangentially close to IT during the end of life of an operating system (windows xp personally) has horror stories of trying to manage computers connected to decades old, million plus dollar equipment with no future compatible firmware or communication drivers.

aug 15, 2025, 9:10 pm • 4 0 • view
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Lord Longbeard @geekesq.bsky.social

if it functional and works and gives you the data you need why change!!!

aug 15, 2025, 8:34 pm • 1 0 • view
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Bobby Cump, J.D. M.D. MBA, Esq. @bobbycump.bsky.social

Because it's way past end-of-life support. If anything goes wrong with that computer they're completely fucked. This is why other businesses upgrade their computer systems regularly!

aug 15, 2025, 8:38 pm • 6 0 • view
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dhsnwnkl.bsky.social @dhsnwnkl.bsky.social

They support it locally. I imagine they have a plan

aug 16, 2025, 1:13 am • 0 0 • view
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artino.bsky.social @artino.bsky.social

Besides all the other fucked up shit about this, I wouldn’t touch keyboard without a hazmat suit on.

aug 15, 2025, 11:14 pm • 1 0 • view
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calizaybak.bsky.social @calizaybak.bsky.social

I can hear that booting up and the drive chug chugging!

aug 15, 2025, 8:37 pm • 6 0 • view
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David Manning @photodave219.fightins.online

Well. It’s secure. It’s airgapped. It works. I get what you’re saying but it’s a fantastic security measure

aug 15, 2025, 8:35 pm • 21 0 • view
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BK Girl in the 10570 @sbs10570.bsky.social

Can’t hack into something not connected to the internet..😆.

aug 15, 2025, 11:00 pm • 11 0 • view
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Raggedy Android @egrunin.bsky.social

I have some experience in pharma factories. Every change (to either hardware or software) requires intensive documentation and testing. I recently saw a machine on a factory floor running Windows XP because the hardware it was driving could not be replaced.

aug 15, 2025, 11:52 pm • 4 0 • view
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HumanSpareParts @humanspareparts.bsky.social

no AI… 🤷🏾‍♂️

aug 15, 2025, 8:40 pm • 4 0 • view
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Linotype Pilgrim @symbo1ics.bsky.social

👆 this is going to become very very important

aug 16, 2025, 4:03 am • 1 0 • view
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Toneloaf @toneloaf.bsky.social

If it works, why mess with it

aug 15, 2025, 8:35 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jacob Rees-Pawg @jacobreespawg.bsky.social

this isn't uncommon – not just in america – and as ancient legacy systems go this one is one of the easier to maintain or replace. you would not believe the awful old crap that runs older factory automation systems. computing is just another thing you install once and forget it exists.

aug 15, 2025, 9:12 pm • 4 0 • view
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Joyce Reynolds-Ward Klone's Stronghold: Reeni is FINISHED!!!! @joycereynoldsward.bsky.social

Heh. Go to some school districts....

aug 15, 2025, 9:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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Sky Marchini @sky.skymarchini.net

i work in manufacturing lol

aug 15, 2025, 9:12 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jacob Rees-Pawg @jacobreespawg.bsky.social

my mistake, i did not realize you were already familiar with the accursed horrors : )

aug 15, 2025, 9:16 pm • 3 0 • view