I feel like losing my mind every time we do another round of Covid discourse because I live in Bergen county NJ, I saw the freezer trucks full of dead people with my own two eyes
I feel like losing my mind every time we do another round of Covid discourse because I live in Bergen county NJ, I saw the freezer trucks full of dead people with my own two eyes
It’s weird how literally 1.5 million people died and most discourse centers if we went too far.
Like idk does anyone in China talk about how the Great Leap Forward was a little too concerned about levels of food consumption
probably this is a little backwards but “despite the valid points of concern that drove this disastrous episode of our history,” is a common way I’ve seen those things couched
What drives me crazy about “covid critics” is we all remember there was a period where no one knew exactly the right thing to do, and we had to play it safe to figure out the right degree of precautions. There was a good couple months where everyone was on the same page about this!
We all remember wiping groceries down with bleach wipes and when it was announced “ok good news that part wasn’t as big a deal as we thought, don’t have to do that” There was a common ‘intellectual honesty’ if not humility to the threat that has been memoryholed
Enough people died for it to be serious but not enough people for everyone to be affected
Not enough people in every state died quickly enough for Trump's sabotage to be rendered ineffective
People went insane about it because there were poorly targeted interventions that didn’t work, were a nuisance, and that we now know were ineffective. People are totally incapable of going “well, seems dumb now but at the time we didn’t know anything”
I do buy the argument that we somehow charted a strategy that maximized pain to benefit. A lot of refusal to enact tyranny, for lack of a better term lmfao.
Enact centralized quarantine Support your local dying hotel industry Surely you will not regret enacting centralized quarantine
I don’t think that could’ve been politically feasible in the US under, like, any circumstances though.
There also seems to be a false reality being created that without schools closures classes would have gone on as normal and that wasn’t an option
1 million dead!!!!
And next time we, having learned our lesson, will do nothing at all
sky the absurd joke … one I can not always handle … and I have no answer that is more than myself and my limits … (thus the word choice of the ABSURD is some people saw those same trucks and the babble hateful and hurtful nonsense , the greek word caco but spelled with a k sound for the c, kakós
for they will not claim responsibility for this pain that is too much and they expect some leader to claim responsibility even if that person had NO-power is NEW 🆕 for that is how they learned to cope with the bad place ( me pictured, I wished I had his abs )
Who is doing this? I will send origami cranes after their asses
Really appreciated The Pitt for being one of the very few peices of popular media to actually address the trauma of the pandemic.
There was literally an article in my local paper about how they weren't going to need freezer trucks because the morgue at the former medical examiners office was still functional and could be reopened to store bodies that didn't fit in hospital morgues
Also, the crowd of people mad about "bars open schools closed" is far from homogeneous. Most are mad both weren't open. But there's a subset that's mad that both weren't closed (or the order switched) that are used to give cover to the rest.
I think a lot of people who were mad that bars were open (or liquor stores were open) also fail to comprehend just how fucking bad alcoholism and quitting cold turkey can be (i.e., it can fucking kill you). So allowing access to alcohol served a (perverse, maybe!) public health benefit.
My friend in the National Guard got deployed to NYC to get the bodies out of buildings because coroners were overwhelmed. www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article...
The take economy makes people think there's no reality beyond words.
My dad is the CEO of one of the largest cemetery systems in California. He ordered those freezer trucks.
And I either get “it wasn’t that bad” from the minimalists or the “actually the same level of death & destruction is happening right now” from the maximalists
I grew up in Bergen county. I BELIEVE YOU. #saynocovid2.0
The utility company came and installed a pole to wire the trucks into the grid because they realized nobody was claiming the bodies because the next of kin was hospitalized/dead too.
I live on the same block as a hospital in Brooklyn. The freezer trucks were parked on my side of the street, and the sound of ambulances was basically a constant for about three months. Whole discourse is bewildering to me.
What alarms me is the fact that so few people seem to be able to believe both that the mitigation efforts were very imperfect AND that they helped nonetheless.
Jesus...
I will never, ever forget the creeping dread in Silicon Valley as everyone realized we’d be one of the first regions affected.
I mean, it makes me lose my mind too, but that's because I'm still dealing w/the psychological fallout of my 12yo's experience of closed schools + my cousin's dealing w/her 19yo, AND ALSO I remember the mounting death tolls, and remembering/mourning both means the Internet doesn't believe I exist
😢
The actual story of COVID is pretty straightforward, but where it touches culture and politics the lesson is the opposite that the people who control the levers of power want it to be. Socialism and shared sacrifice: boo. hiss. Individualism and consumerism: yay!
This! I remain flabbergasted at how many people don’t recall (or minimize) freezer trucks outside hospitals. It was all over the news. They were needed because the virus was deadly, a mass casualty event. Trucks full of bodies seem hard to forget, but this is America. Sheesh.
I'm usually an emotionless Vulcan but. Damn. This one struck me. I'm sorry you went through that, dude. I agree. People in less populated areas really don't understand.
Similar discourses can be found all over the world, but this level of insanity is uniquely American.
Grimmer Y2K moment of “the response was too good so people wonder why it was needed”
45,000 Americans died of Covid last year.
Also like. Did none of these people live with anyone who was immunocompromised or of some kind of like, general significant risk status?
I think a lot of people coped (and continue to do so) through denial
Because like, live w/ my grandmother in her 80s and there was like *significant* precautions that were done specifically b/c of that aspect to avoid getting sick or even her sick.
My dad turns 80 this year and is in dogshit health, I remember scrubbing down everything with bleach on the back porch
My spouse and I lived in a split level at the time with his parents. His mother was diagnosed with Para Supranuclear Palsy (an incredibly aggressive form of Parkinson's) basically at the start of the pandemic. We were TERRIFIED of bringing Covid back into the house.
We were the healthiest group of people in our building and it wasn’t lost on me that if anyone in the building got sick and wasn’t careful, anyone or everyone could pay for it, and that shaped everything.