That roided-up incel really got me thinking this too, why can’t people just be fucking normal

unfortunately this kind of homosocial behavior from me is normal and that’s the problem

This implies they’ve ever been particularly *good* (just on the surface)

seems like a terrible time to be straight

"By the end of the evening everyone was like 'shut the fuck up, June'" ~Kevin James Thornton

LMAO this is a joke, right?

Dude no. Now's a great time to be a straight guy dating.

I wasn’t referring specifically to guys or dating, but also, have you not heard the accounts of what the average straight guy trying to date is like? does not seem like anyone involved in that process is having a great time

online dating for a straight guy is essentially a literacy test

this is the truth and the majority fail

That's one reason my now-wife answered my reply to her personal ad on Yahoo -- I could write in complete, even erudite, sentences.

we ladies are doing some pretty hardcore sexual selection and it’s about dang time

so deeply, on a soul level, in the marrow, absolutely fucked.

I really do think they broke down years ago (2016's incel moment being the point where it becomes truly apparent) but it's taken until now for it to truly become painfully apparent in everything @contrapoints.bsky.social has been on this beat for like a decade though

I’ve had this @sjshancoxli.liberalcurrents.com open in a tab for uh, 8 months and am finally reading it. It’s good and important. www.liberalcurrents.com/the-crisis-o...

People like to go “male loneliness epidemic!” and “crisis of masculinity!” but no, fellas and humanities nerds and policy wonks, what this is is sexual selection

And like, I think it’s a historical coincidence that industries of conquest need to be replaced by industries of sustainability at the same time as the rest of the transformations of modernity, but it’s a hell of a fuckin’ parallel. bsky.app/profile/jenk...

Ah, but who broke them? bsky.app/profile/jenk...

My working model is that gender relations were never not-broken, there just wasn’t a way (partly) out of the ongoing atrocity of patriarchy until relatively recently. It was the peace of a well-run prison, and egalitarian gender relations are still struggling to be born.

This is actually the main thrust of my theory about how the manosphere got so popular.

I don't really know how to articulate it but it's something like, they used to be broken together, and now they are broken apart. There was a unifying, if hugely unequal narrative, inescapable like a prison perhaps. Now the narrative has splintered.

Reading that essay u linked, btw, "The Crisis of Gender Relations" and came upon this line.... "More and more, women don't need men. And men haven't figured out how to adapt to that." And it made me think of something....

In the beginning, the very beginning, we wouldn't have known what men were for. Who could have guessed some kind of microscopic contribution was involved in the babies women created? All we'd have known is that hey, that ecstatic fertility ritual worked.

Patriarchy invented the purpose for men. Protection from other men. Access to resources within a system where all the resources are owned by men. Perhaps we are somehow reentering a time where we don't know what men are for now again. This is what they haven't figured out how to adapt to.

In a comment section full of relatable things 'I've had a tab open for 8 months' is the most. Feeling seen over here

Definitely one of several social areas where we've been going backward. And the young men whining about women are getting the absolute worst possible advice from the so-called "experts" online.

I'd like to participate in this conversation but I've learned my lesson

One hundred frigging percent

If you’re a conventionally attractive liberal straight man you’re living on easy mode right now

* offer may not apply if you, for example, live in Mike Johnson's district

Yeah, it can be bleak as fuck in one of the only red districts in NJ

What if you’re a straight-ish liberal man that’s only relatively attractive?

Better take some truck selfies or make sure youre holding a fish in at least two profile pics

Good to know. Anything else?

Regardless of how tall you are set your height at 6'2". Women love that.

Yes, yes, all good to know.

people say this but I honestly have no idea what it means...isn't it just an online thing?

We're so fucking thankful to be t4t lesbians sometimes

heterosexuality is pretty much done for

many people are saying

(tbh I assume that for straight dudes "just literally don't be a fascist" would pay enormous dividends these days, but I can hardly speak from experience)

Other guys set the bar so low I had a girl unbreak up with me because I handled getting broken up with so well.

It's hard for most women to like the average cis het man these days.

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