Oh and so the art kid, do they have sports or a supportive family? So kids are supposed to know how to learn and self motivate when they talk to teachers and get shame and smart words instead of support?

So when dad at home says art is worthless and tears it all up, you definitely supported that artist's growth.

"Art takes practice" "OH YEAH WHAT ABOUT GENOCIDE"

I really don't think you're making a real argument, I think you're just making up a person in your head and defending them

Every time someone hollows out your argument you just make up a new hypothetical lmao, amazing

That has nothing to do with me telling students that the way to not suck at a thing is to practice doing the thing. I'm sorry if you have trauma related to being told that your interest was worthless. That's awful. It also has nothing to do with this conversation.

One of the most successful artists I know, now a tattooist with a 2 year waitlist who has done work on rich as hell basketball players etc, spent the entirety of his school years in *grinding* poverty as the middle child of 7. His family called him a faggot for liking art and his older siblings

bullied him. Zero support, couldn't afford art supplies. Stop digging for excuses to use the tubby custard slop machine. You can get a box of pencils and a sketchbook for less than $5.

I’m a writer. It came naturally to me but I also worked on it all the time. That lead me to believe if I could draw or sing, I’d have already done so. I’m happy to report that’s not true, but it was a long time before I knew that.

Oh my god I can't believe you would haze those kids like that (i.e., telling them to practice something they ostensibly wanted to get good at)