Is this a solution or do we still need to address the lack of naturally produced foods in the wild for bees? I don't see this being addressed in online articles.
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It is a stop gap to buy us time to figure out a better long term solution. So it is a good thing, a very good thing, but it doesn't mean the situation is *solved* just temporarily mitigated.
aug 24, 2025, 12:05 am • 45 1 • view
I'm beginning to think the solution is only less humans.
aug 24, 2025, 12:10 am • 13 0 • view
Humans are part of the world, we are as natural as anything else. Get rid of the profit motive and most problems caused by "humans" go away.
aug 24, 2025, 12:12 am • 39 3 • view
Rabbits are also natural. As are rats. Look what those natural beings did when they were exported around the world. There are times and places for natural things, including humans. We were fine when we were 20M in N & S America... 100M worldwide.
aug 24, 2025, 12:16 am • 5 0 • view
Steven Miller would agree with you on the overpopulation
aug 24, 2025, 12:40 am • 1 1 • view
Probably not. He wants race based elimination, while I want major diversity and also understand that science and technology are driven by population size.
aug 24, 2025, 12:42 am • 0 0 • view
Race based elimination is the face of it, sure. But when Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, VA care goes away after the midterms - it’s gonna be the poor who die regardless of race. So - you want to reduce the population - who goes and who stays?
aug 24, 2025, 12:59 am • 2 1 • view
Self selection. Miller wants extermination camps. I want expanded education. The result in both cases is less humans. But the methods and results are so incredibly different that it defies logic to compare them. The only metric that matches is the raw number of humans. NOTHING else matches.
aug 24, 2025, 1:05 am • 1 0 • view
Expanded education is the way.
aug 24, 2025, 1:06 am • 1 0 • view
Absolutely!
aug 24, 2025, 1:09 am • 1 0 • view
Zero doubt. There is no other way.
aug 24, 2025, 1:07 am • 1 0 • view
Humans are migratory, that is part of human nature. We travel. There with out the profit motive f*ing things up we would be fine. Anyway our population is starting to naturally decline (the growth has slowed and will stop and reverse, on its own). I am more worried about Climate Change.
aug 24, 2025, 12:24 am • 18 1 • view
Language comparing humans to undesired pests, vermin, rodents, etc. is often weaponized to dehumanize people preceding acts of genocide.
aug 24, 2025, 12:38 am • 8 0 • view
True. Thank the gods I don't do that. Or support it.
aug 24, 2025, 12:43 am • 0 0 • view
You think so, but you ARE focusing directly on the population reduction route. Who gets to decide who gets to procreate? Or migrate? Or get life-saving care? This way lies eugenics. These are the underpinnings of eugenics and genocides. Don't step onto this path. Choose a different approach.
aug 24, 2025, 1:40 am • 10 2 • view
Education, education, education. The more people are educated, the lower the birth rate without putting in any other measures. But! The number of people isn't really the problem! We have enough, produce enough, for *everyone* already here to live nice lives if the profit motive wasn't a factor.
aug 24, 2025, 1:45 am • 5 1 • view
I say let individuals make informed decisions for themselves. Or is that a nazi method in your opinion?
aug 24, 2025, 1:42 am • 0 0 • view
You know who gets to decide the “times and places for natural things” Jon? Nature. Not Jon.
aug 24, 2025, 1:46 am • 1 1 • view
You know it's only natural that humans wiped out the Carolina Parakeet, the North American Bison, the Dodo, Tasmanian Wolf, and the gods only know how many others. We fish the oceans dry. We burn the Amazon. It's 'natural' because humans are natural. Right?
aug 24, 2025, 2:47 am • 0 0 • view
Wow. You posted I don't get to decide, what, 3 hours after I said I don't get to decide? I bet you thought you were being clever, don't you?
aug 24, 2025, 2:33 am • 0 0 • view
Humans are neither rabbits nor any kind of vermin you can come up with. We are not going to let this discussion go down the ecofascism path. Nuh-uh.
aug 24, 2025, 1:32 am • 4 1 • view
No, they are not. That you made that connection in YOUR head says more about you, than it does about me, who never thought that.
aug 24, 2025, 1:33 am • 0 0 • view
🔪🔪🔪 #Dexter
aug 24, 2025, 4:17 am • 0 0 • view
the latter imho
aug 23, 2025, 11:53 pm • 1 0 • view
Probably yes. I think the answer to that is a complex ecological question requiring balance with other concerns like food supply and water usage. It is very good thing to be able to sustain a minimum viable bee population and recover from die off quicker.
aug 24, 2025, 12:08 am • 6 0 • view