The lesson I take from the Battle of Blair Mountain is that we ought to do everything in our power to avoid a second one. If it proves necessary, fine, but it should not be for lack of trying peaceful alternatives.
The lesson I take from the Battle of Blair Mountain is that we ought to do everything in our power to avoid a second one. If it proves necessary, fine, but it should not be for lack of trying peaceful alternatives.
Why didn't you implement these peaceful alternatives before?
Because I'm not a sovereign, and because I don't know what all of them might be. That's why I'm asking for ideas.
And people are telling you that you're naive. Instead of doubling down in your denialism, maybe open your mind to the reality that others might be right.
Appeal to the authority of the majority doesn't really mean much here in the bluesky replies of nerdjpg. You know that this community is in the extreme minority, itself, yes? I replied to her, specifically, because I think she often has insightful things to say.
Appealing to knowledge of people who know more than you isn't the slight your sad ego thinks it is.
the battle of blair mountain is a direct link to things like umbrella groups for unions and many of the reforms you're touting as 'peaceful'. Like let's just cut to the chase, do you think segregation was ended through peaceful means just because it was signed as a bill?
Segregation isn't something that ends, concretely, simply, and universally. The fight against segregation is still ongoing. Most of the methods by which we pursue this are peaceful, and I don't believe that they are all contingent on violent resistance.
oh my god you fucking pedant I'm literally a trans woman PLEASE do not talk down to me about how segregation still exists I was clearly talking about the specific civil rights movement that ended the national federal policy of segregation based on race as a defacto norm, was that 'peaceful' y/n
Quite a lot of it was! Yes, there was violent resistance, and shows of force. The Black Panthers inspired Ronald fucking Reagan to pass gun control, for goodness sake. But the answer is, get this, non-binary. What was violent didn't always work, and what worked wasn't always violent.
This Scolding bullshit is why nobody likes fucking libsocs.
do you think the fact that the only 'bipartisan' gun control effort was inspired by black guys owning guns speaks to our leaders' understanding of how the underpinning of violent threat to minority revolution is required for a successful movement
That's one reason I'm bringing it up, yes. It never had to get any further than a threat. This conversation started with, "I don't want to abandon my neighbors to white nationalist rule, what can we do to help, short of civil war?"
An example of what I mean by, effective, non-violent means of desegregation can be found earlier in this reply chain.
that's a cool story, did you know that most of those 'incentive' efforts were created after black majority unions literally burned government trucks and beat scabs to death
No. Please tell me more about the specific incidents.
it was a national campaign, that's literally why government programs like that were made, because black unions and similar allied groups made it clear they were going to get violent with people who insist on never hiring black workers