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DDrae🇨🇦 @ddrae.bsky.social

Totally disagree. He told her what she could do to see them and she made her choice. Everyone has their own choice about who they give time too. She got what she was looking for. Thinking she would win this one. Good on the son💙 Should be so proud.

jun 23, 2025, 5:03 pm • 3 0

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Vivian M. Lumbard @vivian-m-lumbard.bsky.social

What if it had been the other way around? If he'd said if she *didn't* vote for Trump, she couldn't see the grandchild? Would you still feel it was appropriate? If you do, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

jun 23, 2025, 5:14 pm • 1 0 • view
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Talmonis @talmonis.bsky.social

That "gotcha" doesn't work, as Trump is still the malignant issue. It's not unreasonable to expect people we CHOOSE to spend time with and allow access to our children to, to have basic decency. No one is obligated to ever tolerate people who want masked gunmen to abduct political targets.

jun 23, 2025, 6:53 pm • 1 0 • view
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Vivian M. Lumbard @vivian-m-lumbard.bsky.social

I agree Trump is a malignant issue & access to our children should be based on human decency. I disagree that manipulating anyone's vote is wrong, even if they're believing the lies about who will start wars. That would make us no better than them. We differ on how best to travel the high roads.

jun 23, 2025, 7:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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Talmonis @talmonis.bsky.social

I dont believe in directly telling them how to vote. I didn't tell my parents not to, I just hoped they'd be better and made it very clear where I stood. But access and engagement are and will be conditional on behavior.

jun 23, 2025, 7:19 pm • 2 0 • view
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Vivian M. Lumbard @vivian-m-lumbard.bsky.social

My debate had to do with the original posted situation. I have no issues with access and engagement being conditional on behavior. In fact, as a parent, when my kids were young, I would've insisted upon it.

jun 23, 2025, 7:26 pm • 2 0 • view
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DDrae🇨🇦 @ddrae.bsky.social

Well there is only one version of the truth. This isn’t that hard. She made her choice based on THE QUESTION at hand. My grandchild is before everything. I’m speaking about her choices and if he said that I would say no I am not voting for a liar and a Con. Ugh

jun 23, 2025, 9:09 pm • 0 0 • view