The point I was trying to make is that people should only be judged in the time and circumstances they lived in. I think we can judge the circumstances and people in general maybe, but not individuals.
The point I was trying to make is that people should only be judged in the time and circumstances they lived in. I think we can judge the circumstances and people in general maybe, but not individuals.
One thing I still struggle with and feel free to fill me in on the background of why 1619 was chosen for the research.
The claim is that the first shipload of African slaves arrived in 1619. English "Privateers" (pirates?) captured a Spanish ship and traded the slaves for food. I am starting to believe the adage "History belongs to whoever writes it." All I know is that it sure made a mess.
(1) I think a core argument at a lower level is why did folks settle on 1619? I can see the argument about what happened being plausible, but why the year? I say that because if I recall slavery had been going on for years going back to the 1500s. I agree it creates a mess.
(2) However, the mess itself is not because of the research but the way it was put together. Then again I believe your comment about owning history is a fair assessment of why it is vital to proceed with caution on research and making a case. The same argument could be made in multiple places.
(3) Rest assured I value these discussions and have no issues empathizing with you and others positions. I find it is not too hard to find common agreement on historical facts.
I agree and think your point is valid. My purpose was also not to distract from the discussion as I believe you provide great dialogue and value to the discussion. If we talk about things during the founders time I will agree their attitude was toward slavery even though some did wanted to abolish