Children as young as 14 could be working overnight shifts in the school week in areas like agriculture & construction to make up for the shortfall of migrant labour in Florida. Yes. Really.
Children as young as 14 could be working overnight shifts in the school week in areas like agriculture & construction to make up for the shortfall of migrant labour in Florida. Yes. Really.
This is the vision of the Heritage Foundation's Christian Nationalist manifesto called Project 2025. I covered this when I made this brochure with references bsky.app/profile/lake...
Kids barely have chores these days because sports schedules are insane. Unless of course the target was poor people….. then it makes sense.
What parent would allow their 14 year old to work an overnight shift? To me that's child neglect. When I was 14, I had a job at McDonald's. Labor laws allowed me to work til midnight on weekends. My mother had a different law and laid it on the manager. Never worked a late shift again.
Sure! Put headlamps on those kids and have them picking crops all night, then going to school during the day
School? They don't need no stinking school!
We are truly going back in time. How long before we have the same discussion in UK?
Worked in a Florida middle school for 7 yrs. Do you know who was working the orchards? Yep, immigrant kids on the weekend. When I suggested to other kids to do the same, "I'm not picking fruit," i expect not much has changed.
I worked at age 14 for a friend of my dad. Washing windows at nite. I started falling asleep in class. My mother put her foot down. No more work. So dad took my place! Florida to do away with mastery tests along with this bill.
Send Barron, Jr’s kids, Eric’s kids, and Ivanka’s kids. They are not royalty and they live in Florida. They’ve never done a day’s work in a garden, much less a hot field with minimal outhouses.
You don't need school to work the fields or in factories. Only RICH white kids deserve opportunities in this country now.
It's seems that the brand new golden era for America will be a copycat of the XIX Century Manchester...
Engels is gonna be SOOOO thrilled...
Not “their“ children.
You nailed a very important point.
Whenever Conservatives talk about reducing workers rights, access to healthcare, etc, they do so from a position of knowing they’ll not only be unaffected, they’ll profit …
No. They might as well add "brown and poor children" to this bill. That's who they're talking about.
Appalling 😳
Just wait for the next step where "they can" becomes "they should", which then becomes "they must".
Aren‘t they also working on destroying the school system? Then the kids would not have to work at night…
The Jungle by Upton Sinclair comes to mind…
Not surprising. They don't want these kids in school. The #1 goal of the Republican party right now is to keep the poor poor and make the middle class poor. They believe that they, as rich white men, are entitled to everything we have or could have.
And to keep everyone ignorant. That way, it is easier to control the people. We already have too many ignorants--the Magat crowd.
So much for "we're trying to protect the children", huh. Yes bro, I want children to work around heavy machinery. That's exactly what my country needs. Huh? Raise the national minimum wage, stop taxing diapers and formula and increase benefits? Who will THAT help??? /s
I wonder sometimes if the human race will make it to the next century…and do we deserve to?
When you are only pro fetus, this is what you get. I wonder what decade we will eventually land in once this time machine stops.
It’s been part of their plan for over 50yrs. They want uneducated labor that won’t form a union or know their worker rights. THIS IS A CLASS WAR!
No abortion. Force girls to carry babies they can’t support. Young fathers with no skill are pushed into labor jobs. They can’t afford daycare. Mom is forced to stay home and stop education, and grandparents are forced to use up their savings or retirement. The entire family is now gov dependent.
I see further mass exodus from red states. I know JB Pritzker wouldn’t stoop to this. I can practically see his snarl.
If they close the schools then there'll be no drop in educational standards.
RFK is getting us ready to put people who are already in unbearable emotional and mental pain into forced labor camps as well. www.thecut.com/article/rfk-...
Ah well, it's not as if repugnicans want them to be educated anyway. They create a problem based on racism and stupidity, and keep creating worse problems because their solutions are also based on racism and stupidity. An endlessly vicious cycle of racism and stupidity.
…And the Angel told Tom, if he'd be a good boy, He'd have God for his father & never want joy. And so Tom awoke; and we rose in the dark And got with our bags & our brushes to work. Though the morning was cold, Tom was happy & warm; So if all do their duty, they need not fear harm.
The “every sperm is sacred” people really don’t care about children from the moment they are actually born
Since when did Night Farming become a thing? Do they pick crops and build houses in the dark now?
Night farming in California IS actually a thing and has been for decades to avoid the heat and the Trucks have portable lights. But Picking is only part of the process - there’s also packing.
Next step: “Hey, who needs school anyway?”
You don't need education when your destiny is to die in a work accident at age 14.
In the middle of the night with no supervision! The MC Donald’s in my mom’s neighborhood in Naples is being run by teenagers now!
We hear of this occasionally in Mi. It’s sent a friend of mines daughter into anxiety attacks and has left school because of the fear she had being left alone at this business. A gun fight popped up at the business next door and I just… I can’t imagine what she is going through. Suburbia in 2025.
That’s the plan my friend. Those poor kids will be working in the chicken processing plants, canneries, restaurants etc. and they’ll be too exhausted to go to school. But hey! They’ll be making about $500 a week! I wonder what kinda benefits a 14 year old gets?
Perhaps why they have abolished the Dept for Education?
Exactly! Who needs an education when children will be too tired to learn because they're engaging in forced labor! Next, we'll be seeing private for profit "education" camps popping up after the crazed GOP passes laws that take our children away from us to serve time in such camps!
Based off the troubled teen industry model?
Actually, I was thinking North Korea's "Reeducation Camps" would be a terribly unfortunate but fitting model.
Call it the „Trump Youth, League of American Worker Youth“
OiiiO
The funniest news I've seen today 😂 www.toolzo.online/2025/02/repo...
Gag me
Stop making me root for the giant space rock.
They can loosen the law all they want. as much as they want it to be, its not 1943. What employer will want to hire, train, and employ a 14yro. Have you met a 14yro lately. In 1943 they would get fake IDs or older siblings IDs to go fight in WWII.. now, they wont go to the playground.
You are very naive. Ask the entire state of Nebraska if they'd take 14 year old workers. For that matter ask ANY farmer in the US whose laborers were deported or refuses to show up because they are afraid of being dragged away.
Florida, he’s the term limited governor of Florida. My entire rant was about Florida. This may very well work in other areas. It would not work in Florida. Maybe Agro. But even that. Without migrant and Immigrant families, the rest of the pop is too far from the fields for 14yros to fill the void.
Pick up, put down...Repeat. Considering child poverty levels and health costs.. Can they really refuse the money?
The money is only a small part. Would you hire someone who doesn’t have a dependable method of getting to work. You might, but how long will they last. You’d be training new “kids” every few weeks New hire + training costs companies a lot in lost time that trainer should be doing other things.
Factories bus people into shifts regularly. That happens across the UK. "Training".... Pick it up and put it down.. Why waste money on training or safety when the regulations don`t exist? Mass poverty means no end of kids who want to eat or buy meds.
This isn’t the UK. There is next to no public transportation in the US or factories, tbh. What you’re implying is years down the line. The job shortage in agro and construction are now. Food rots in fields, now Builds miss deadlines, now. DeSantis is a lame duck. He’s trying to make a splash.
Aggriculture, pick it up, put it down. Machines do the planting. Construction, pick it up and put it down. Children have never been used for skilled work.
The same unscrupulous employers who have no qualms about hiring illegal workers? And this administration has zero regard for the law - it’s breaking laws daily.
It’s not about training it’s about them being easy enough to control that they can be abused and underpaid.
True. Its also about training. The last time we had child labor, was the Great Depression and factories could just beat workers that failed. Or get Pinkertons to restore order. While its possible to eventually devolve to that. It would take much longer than what DeSantis is trying to fix here.
It’s FL, many will hire them and many parents will force kids to work bc they need the $$ to live. Foster kids will be exploited even more.
Depends on the work. I agree to a point. DeSantis is doing this to fill shortfalls in labor for Agro and Construction. not stocking shelves or POS. legal, non migrant, non immigrant kids don’t typically live near agriculture centers. Im pretty south. The closest real agro area is a 90min drive.
In N FL it’s smaller agro and lots of construction so there are areas ripe for abuse. Hopefully ppl are calling their legislators in opposition and it doesn’t pass.
Most of the construction down south is large scale. People think you can just plop a kid who needs work for one reason or another.. they should tour a high rise being built in downtown miami or a massive country club being built in Lakeworth. The same people don’t realize DeSantis is feckless.
So they will ship workers in from other states. They are against immigration on the surface, but they are at the same time plotting to bring me in select immigrants they deem as desirable. Oklahoma has been pimping out our youth & our resources to other red states & counties at our own peril so..
Wow NOT BRING ME just bring in. Thank you neurodivergent brain and slow fingers.
Also *send* not since. 🤦🏻♀️
This happened a couple years ago with online learning. we had elected officials helping embezzling resources & using Oklahoma workers out of state to benefit another state & there was little consequence. Oklahomans already since their queer kids to work camps. To Florida is not a stretch.
Again, I’m only referring to Florida. Its 9hours by car from the Georgia line to Miami or Tampa. Oklahoma is bordered by 6 states. Transporting an underage citizens across state line is a federal crime currently. Its easier to pull off when the parent is afraid of ICE.
I’m not as optimistic as you seem to be that these would actually deter or slow down trafficking of minors. We have the Tate brothers stateside again thinks to this administration. I think they are going to play right in everyone’s face because they have been doing so successfully. Those kids from…
the last term are still not all reunited with their families despite court orders existing to do so for YEARS. They are dragging their feet on doing this for a reason. Every choice made indicates values. The question is… how do we make doing this too costly to maintain? Legally, financially, etc
Young people have always been a significant part of the workforce. It’s usually just white people like me who think that teenagers don’t work & aren’t wanted for work. I know differently from firsthand. The relaxing of laws is putting the youth that do work in danger. www.cdc.gov/niosh/young-...
You would be surprised how low their standards can go, once the promise of quasi slave-labour is on the table.
It’s as though, after 2 months of deliberate destruction and chaos, some people still think this administration cares about ordinary citizens and that it will mature enough to return to a rules based system.
That’s intellectual, I’m talking functional. A company won’t be able to get insurance to cover young workers.. Ok no problem.. right. Just don’t have insurance anymore… A client wont accept the liability of hiring a company without insurance…
I get your points, but it's not as if stuff like this hasn't been done before. Of course it's not feasible if you apply the rules we got used to, but as we see every day, those rules can and will be broken by your current administration.
True. At a geo-political level. Im talking a construction site, a mechanic, garbage worker. Fine, they want kids to pick cucumbers and broccoli. Ok, I suppose aspects of Agro will benefit. How is a 14yro going to lay rebar. Or drywall. Or run conduit. In the modern age?
A video will teach them everything they need to know and conveniently it’ll let the company off the hook if something goes wrong while they work.
I suppose. What industry are you referring to?
Iowa and Arkansas had bills to exempt empoyers from the injury or death of employed minors.
What they want and whats feasible in the actual day-to-day. Are incongruent. I run a company and thought of a 14yro employee doing more than POS, cashwrap, or prep-work is terrifying. They’re what going to bicycle to the job site, walk along I95?
Oh fuck off
Im sure there will be some teenagers that are now able to work legally out of this idiotic stunt law change, but those “kids” are already finding ways to work now. This isn’t an untapped employee market. It’s the consequences of a brash decision to eliminate the migrant and immigrant work force.
And not having enough workers that can afford to work at (low) wages that pay the astronomical cost of living in Florida. $17/hr a gal of milk a dz eggs a loaf of bread a gal of gas $18.50 So they want “kids”, who in theory will work for less, closer to the min wage of $7.60 $7.60 on 40hrs is $304
40 hrs as well as school? come on they're kids, they can do at least 60hrs
If there’s no funding for public schools only Christian private schools….no meaningful education isn’t much of a leap.
And definitely not in Florida!
I don't think it's safe to assume the corrupt regime would actually pay children to work. In North Korea they have reeducation camps, these are gulags in actuality where labor is forced.
since its mainly agricultural work (cotton picking) perhaps they could re-introduce share cropping or better still.. as its children then its pretty much an apprenticeship .. SO.. get the parents to pay ..
Wow! Ok Yes. At the extreme. I was responding to an article about my feckless term limited governors idiotic solution to scaring the migrant and immigrant workers and their families out of the state. His immediate solution is lowering the worker age to 14. That was what my rant regarded. Not N.Korea
They won't be paid minimum wage. They'll be paid a "trainee" wage and in "experience." I think the experience consists of learning how workers get screwed over by employers.
Technically I'm sure you can just "homeschool" your kids and argue that those are the classes.
You nailed it!
Yeah- waiting for them to change the law to require attendance through 5th grade then tell kids to get their asses to work
14's a little restrictive. Why not 7?
Guaranteed there will be kids that “lie” that they are 14. You don’t have a drivers license, so what kinda ID will they check?
There will be adults with cadres of juveniles. Minor slaves, age and the welfare of the youths won't matter.
I live in farm country. I’ve SEEN things. All of the senators, representatives, police and sheriffs know it too. They are all in on it.
This system has always depended on a slave labor or near to slave labor workforce. By ejecting immigrant migrants, tinted folks, they will need to backfill with someone. Otherwise the unappreciated shit work won't get done.
I have cousins who are “milk maids” in the big dairies. But they are old, like me. They do it because we grew up doing it. Anglo’s don’t do it anymore. That’s the facts. I’ll be really curious to see who shows up for this with when they force out the immigrants. They do it and well! It’s a travesty
It'll be interesting to say the least. Those udders won't last without that milking. Most people don't realize how labor intensive convenient shopping for the masses is. We off shored most of the unsightly slave labor conditions. Hard to do that with perishables.
I was hoping for 10
Exactly, then you could earn a trump university degree in fruit picking.
Exactly
Concerned it really IS part of their plan: create a generation of uneducated citizens whose only options are either life of crime or accept 'slave labor' jobs or possibly even sell themselves into slavery. I mean, doesn't 'the bible' talk abt Christian forefathers having slaves? These ppl are NUTS!
That is the plan. And it's not funny. They believe certain people are worthless and her only to serve their needs. And republican citizens feel the same way. They are willing to die ( and sacrifice their children) to serve their leader.
And then, they can learn the art of pump-and-dump-US- crypto-dollars, made out of nothing, thanks to Frump and minions. www.reuters.com/technology/t...
The special minimum wage for workers under the age of 20 years is $4.25/hr for a 90 day period. I guarantee they will use this draconian law also.
The children will mostly be immigrants in detention camps