Vance's understanding of the end of World War II sure is different from mine. (Allied forces did not negotiate settlements with Germany and Japan, and at no point did the United States consider letting Axis powers keep territories they seized by force.)
Nazi leaders were not honored guests, they were tried and executed at Nuremberg.
He is quite possibly the most disingenuous d__k in politics today and that’s really saying something. He doesn’t believe a single word he is saying.
If he meant world war 1 then lol lmao we all know how that turned out
It's a travesty that he's Vice President of the United States. It's like watching a spoiled child squander a great inheritance recklessly. People died to achieve Peace in WWII, American leaders worked hard for decades to keep it & build on it. These People recklessly squander decades worth of work.
It was easier to “negotiate” when Germany was defeated and Hitler was dead.
Atomic Bombs? Unconditional surrender?
This is why JD Vance is part of the Trump team. Trump only hires loyalists and idiots. #HistoryBeDamned
This entire administration is ignorant of our histort
😁 Japans settled the things by receiving Little Boy and Fat Man at their territory.
And what absolutely kills me is there are plenty of MAGA who know their history but who will overwrite their knowledge and swallow this garbage as fact. Just nod along in agreement because it supports what they want.
Vance knows this. He just doesn't care.
also from any AI you ask which is hilarious
Alternative reality
translation: He is a bloody liar.
This is stolen valor. JD, you fucking traitor.
The phrase Vance can't seem to find is "unconditional surrender."
You mean “surrender unconditionally or we will continue to nuke you”?
Or, we will nuke you, then you will surrender.
The USA * negotiated * with Britain, France and the Soviet Union regarding the portions of Germany and Austria that were to be controlled by each country. Negotiated borders of Poland and other countries in the Eastern bloc may have involved negotiations or maybe just acceptance of Stalin’s lines.
So JD Vance’s statement is technically “true” but absolute BS at the same time.
All Welker needed to do here was say "tell me more about those negotiations to end WW2"
Also Truman, Churchill, and Chaing Kai-shek negotiated with each other the terms they would accept for Japan's surrender prior to issuing the Potsdam Declaration, Japan's negotiations where limited to either accepting the terms or accepting continued atomic bombing and invasion of the home islands.
He's a fucking moron who either doesn't know or is so stupid he thinks he can get away with lying about it. Here's a hint for couch boy, look up "Unconditional surrender".
Remind me how the Vier Nam War ended.
Iirc Churchill was kind of mad that FDR announced the allies would accept nothing less than unconditional surrender because he thought it would make the Germans fight harder
These people are so stupid. #dumbmagats
If you meet a pompous, arrogant man you will also meet an idiot. Confucius
I believe there was some back door negotiation with the Japanese about the role of the Emperor after surrender.
I believe that actually has nothing to do with the actual ending of the war. That was after the ending of the war. We negotiated with an atomic bomb to end the war with Japan.
Or we could just point out that every fucking time this Nazi shit-bag opens his mouth, he's *LYING*.
Journos/ commentators etc., do such a disservice and make such an awful mistake every time they pretend as if ANYTHING any of these assholes say was said in 'good faith.' A scumbag like JD Vance does not actually *believe* ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth. Stop pretending he does.
Call him what he is: a liar, a fraud, an con man, and a criminal. And that he's made himself a Nazi in the service of all that.
What negotiation achieved in history is one broken treaty after another. Paper agreements that briefly covered up the intent to invade, destroy, control, colonize
When he got into Yale Law, was JD's hillbilly background consider diversity or inclusion?
trump and vance using the word 'settlement' like they're personal injury lawyers settling a hit and run.
Right, but the Fox audience believes him and they show up to vote (which is how we got here).
SB👏 Some people make up their own history. Shame that a young VP doesn’t even know the basics. And they aren’t acting as Mediators.They are influencers taking sides with an invader & killer of civilians. Meanwhile a wink & nod. This Administration weak, foolish bunch of incompetent nincompoops.
Thinking my late father in law, who served our country in the battle at Okinawa, might beg to differ.
We have just had VJDay in Europe. I presume that didn’t occur in the USA.
Right, JD, like Obama negotiated with Bin Laden....
My father and grandfather both fought in WWII, my grandfather was a POW of the Japanese after Hong Kong, and I have a degree in Military History, and I can confidently say that unless Hitler putting a bullet in himself in a bunker is considered a negotiation that's not at all how WWII ended.
The man cannot help but denigrate and casually dismiss past military service, while he bleats on about American 'strength and masculinity' I guess WW2 ended with a nice chat with Hitler in Alaska in his mind, or something
There's also that "surrender without condition or we will destroy you" thing.
I don’t recall seeing a red carpet being rolled out for mustache man.
"some kind of negotiation"- dropping two atom bombs. We're in the realm of alternative facts, aren't we?
I wonder what JD thinks we did to Dresden.
General Unconditional Surrender Grant wasn't big on negotiations.
Vance's version of history is very different and factually wrong. Since I doubt that Vance is ignorant, I can only conclude he is intentionally lying. To survive in the Trump Era GOP, you must be a shameless liar.
He is not lying. He is more or less quoting Trump who said something like ‘Let them fight. That is their way of negotiating’. Wrong in my opinion.
They all live in Trump’s Reality TV show, aired and amplified on Fox News.
It’s ok though, maga doesn’t remember last week let alone how wars ended.
It’s worse than that. Vance knows the truth of the matter full well; he is just lying to the public on behalf of his freakazoid puppet masters
Trump and Vance (and all MAGA admins) speak to their base, who they know are gullible and clueless; they’ll believe what people in power tells them. Then Fox News amplifies it. The truth does not matter to the MAGA cult.
I thought the only negotiation was between the US and Russia as to what land in Eastern Europe Russia could control?
Are you expecting Trump's stupid, ignorant "base" MAGA voters to understand history? Congratulations, Dr. Pangloss.
I am pretty sure that world war two ended the same way that our current situation will probably end. With a great amount of bullets.