Lessons were learned and postwar we built a world based on reason and compromise, emphasising that we're all in it together. The moment we fall into the tribal trap of "us vs them", we're playing their game rather than ours. These calls for high standards are a reminder of that.
I'd rather the Democrats beef up and become the stronger tribe. Then we should conquer the other tribe and take their stuff.
The problem is that everything is being framed as a two faction problem. It's easier to control people when they're trained to think only in the binary
I'm ready for third factions, but I don't think that will happen in the framework of our current election system (maybe in a government breakdown). It's too geared toward two major parties forming a binary.
If you want to break two party politics then you need electoral reform. The movements for IRV through ballot initiatives are leading the way on this.
This person needs to get mugged. I'm sure those nice words will stop those muggers and change their lives. Jfc it's these people that let this all happen
If you're talking about Dems being stronger and more effective as a democratic force, then I agree. That's what we all want. I'm just pointing out that Jennie's "don't treat others as less than human" isn't just "being nice", it's a necessary standard to achieve that goal.
To me it depends who she's talking about, as it was unclear. If she means "don't trample on LGBT+ people's rights," I can agree in principle. If we're talking about MAGA, I think they are subhuman filth.
She's pointing out that you can only protect rights for your allies if you establish and uphold them them for everyone, including your enemies. Treating your political opponents as subhuman erodes the principles of respect and dignity for everyone.
In the 1970s, a Jewish ACLU lawyer fought the case to protect the free speech of a Nazi group. www.aclu.org/news/free-sp... They did it because they knew that protecting FoS, even for Nazis, was a necessary part of protecting the same right for everyone else.
Yeah I totally disagree with them on that. I do not trust the ACLU. I don't think "protecting rights" works as a societal framework when a major side denies the *fundamental concept* of "rights". I think when we extend rights to include fascists, we are just deluding ourselves.
In the decades after the War, rights were established by being for everyone, and were continually strengthened. And yes, that meant fascists had the same rights, that they were free to have their awful views, but they were increasingly marginalised and powerless.
Then came the 2010s where it became increasingly common for certain parts of the left to deny the rights of their opponents. Since then we've seen support for rights erode and fascists gain power and relevancy. It's not a coincidence.
You're blaming the victim, just like fascists. do. You say we're buying into their narrative, but in a different way so are you. Maybe they are actually more clued-in or honest about how the world works. Will > Laws and Rights.
Those are very nice words while people are getting disappeared, institutions destroyed, voting systems being rigged, and criminals set free. You just keep clacking out feel good phrases that don't reflect the reality of what's happening. 👍 All that and $3 will get you little more than a coffee.
On the contrary, I'm emphasising the point about the need for proper strategy. Too many people go with go with the simplistic "if they're being a dick then I'll be a dick" and that's a game the other side wins. Fighting effectively is recognising what works in our favour and what works against us.