Ok can you tell me who does have the plan? I haven’t seen any, and I’d like to. I’m not interested in your criticisms if you don’t have a realistic alternative.
Ok can you tell me who does have the plan? I haven’t seen any, and I’d like to. I’m not interested in your criticisms if you don’t have a realistic alternative.
What do you mean by ‘plan’ like there’s so much context needed. What do you mean by realistic. Are you, the person who self admittedly explicitly can’t think of anything not brought directly to you, the arbiter of what is realistic?
If you want to get anything done under any political system, you need popular support. I keep asking progressives why I should vote for them and nobody ever gives me a reason why. Just endless empty criticism. There isn’t a plan, a goal, a strategy. Why is this hard to understand?
If all you do is point out how other people are doing things wrong, you aren’t fixing anything. It’s only half the process. First identify the problem, second, figure out alternatives, third, follow through… I’m not voting for progressives until I hear a strategy I can believe in.
A bipartisan congress consistently outperforming the best investment brokers on Wall Street, but Piri needs convincing not to vote for corruption.
I need something to vote FOR not vote AGAINST. Now, why are you having a hard time coming up with that? Do you want change or do you just want to criticize the status quo endlessly.
You’ve been voting for evil you’re entire voting life. You’ve been conditioned as a citizen of the global militaristic imperial superpower to believe that voting is a necessary virtue, and with that conditioning you chose from the menu of two people with policies against US citizen interest.
Ok finish the thought, what comes next.
You are what comes next, Piri. A anodyne population staring the face of global militaristic imperialism and internal economic slavery all the while stating ‘I need to be convinced not to keep voting for this’
Piri your country is being raped and pillaged for generations while you insist on voting for the class of people until convinced on Bluesky otherwise. What a hero
Piti not once have you been suggested that the solution is for you to vote. US imprisoning more of your citizens than anywhere else in the world while having a private prison industry, yet you need to be convinced by randomner on social media to not vote to maintain that evil.
So what, you want me to go to war? Kill my neighbors?
You’re being asked not to vote for evil Piri. You seem to not be able to accept that framework without further instructions. Strange.
Ok so I keep asking what you think I should do and you simply can’t answer the question. You’ve effectively demonstrated my point. Progressives will be forever sidelined and powerless unless they can provide solutions for people to get behind.
Again, I’ll repeat. What you can do is not vote for evil ruling class acting against your citizens interests. That something you seem to want to sidestep
Because it’s a negative strategy. Not voting doesn’t accomplish anything. It cedes all power to whoever does vote. So, yeah, I’m not convinced. It’s a nonsense proposal.
What percentage of a democratic population not voting deligitimizes said government, in your opinion?
Oh have you not heard of monarchies?
Example - Ideas people can get behind. You have to pretend you don’t live where you live to discuss the viability of ideas people can get behind. There’s never been a moment in my life where Americans were not broadly in support for universal healthcare yet its never even come close to ‘viable’ why?
Right so here’s the problem. We both know why, and you keep trying to coax me into the gotcha moment where you can say it’s my fault for voting. You keep repeating that. But I keep asking, what is your strategy for breaking this power structure and what should we replace it with?
And when I ask what your strategy is and what you want for the future, you just cycle back into insulting me and blaming me for everything. This is a meaningless conversation. You have not offered me any arguments for changing my behavior to something more constructive.
Piri, I’ll repeat to you, a lack of a electoral strategy within a corrupt governmental set up strategy does not negate criticism of set governmental set up. You want it, but it doesn’t. No gotcha, you’ve literally legitimee evil in this world by voting for it
Criticism without action is just self-aggrandizement. Congrats on announcing repeatedly how smart you are without ever having to test that theory.