Letβs be real here. Minnesota is the approximate size of England. It has urban, rural and wilderness areas. I live in a Minneapolis suburb. I donβt hunt personally, but virtually my entire family does. Father, sister, nephews, uncles, cousins.
Letβs be real here. Minnesota is the approximate size of England. It has urban, rural and wilderness areas. I live in a Minneapolis suburb. I donβt hunt personally, but virtually my entire family does. Father, sister, nephews, uncles, cousins.
My mom & I are the only ones who donβt hunt. Duck, geese, pheasant, grouse, turkey, rabbit, deer, bear, moose etc were all served to me as a child. MANY people here do hunt. In a little over an hour, I could be where my dad duck or goose hunted.
Just a little further and I could be where he deer hunts. Iβm sure there are closer places, but I grew up in central MN and that is what I know. MANY people who live in the metro area hunt. We have roads that take us from the urban area to where the game is. Many have cabins in northern MN.
The discussion is about the firearm that seems to be used in the majority of these mass shootings, the AR15 style weapon. This weapon is designed to cause the max. number of casualties in the shortest time. Any hunter with some common sense needs to understand this, nobody is coming for your rifle.
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Normal people do not need rifles. That you think you do is the whole issue
Many law abiding people use rifles to hunt and do so responsibly. I am vegan & I donβt hunt. But I know many who do hunt & do eat venison, bear, turkey, duck etc.
Bonita, no one needs an AR-15 to hunt. That's the point these people are making. Do you not understand that?
I agree. They should be illegal. Read back in the thread. Most recently I was responding to someone who included ALL guns. My point to that was when you use that type of language you play into the line of bs the NRA & gun lobby has fed about the slippery slope of βthey are coming for your gunsβ.
Every time there has been an opportunity to advance gun control the they shill that rhetoric. My only point was donβt be overboard in your language. We need gun control donβt undermine the efforts by helpful by NRA & gun lobby.
1) You're right. 2) There's someone a couple of replies up who generalized to all rifles. I'm 100% for better gun control in the US, but people (like that person, not you) who over generalize to that degree are going to lose a lot of people who hunt or who know responsible gun owners who hunt.
A rifle is just a long barreled gun with rifling (spiraling grooves) used to impart a spinning motion to fired bullets thereby increasing range and accuracy. I suppose hunters could use muskets if they wanted to hit trees rather than game, though that seems like a couple-century step backwards.
I grew up in OC CA when it was still cowboys orange trees & Marines. We were taught to shoot a Children. I always hated the blood & death & was laughed at. I remember when my Brother & wife looking at my pistol whipped face said "We're Good gun owners" overlooking the man meant to SHOOT ME!
Well that is a whole different subject
I feel sorry for the poor effing wildlife
Iβm a vegan. Are you? Do you eat meat? We can also say that poor chicken kept in a small cage its entire life?
If everyone in America all went out and hunted, it would be chaos. Hunting risks the safety of other people, is cruel when the kill is incomplete and fouls the environment with lead shot. I do eat meat, yes. But i still don't like hunting.
Iβm not fond of hunting; donβt do it myself. But, I will not judge responsible hunters. They donβt take a shot unless they have it. In a place like MN, there are a lot of deer. Hunting is the primary method of population control. Overpopulation, starvation & disease are not kind ways to die.
Now the chicken industry is undeniably cruel. The pork & cattle industry has cruelty also. So if you are going to judge, be fair and judge your food production also.
Regarding environment. Donβt kid yourself. There are many bad ecological impacts from modern farming methods. Here are some and this doesnβt even address the toxic chemicals that are used.
Hunting: steel shot is now required for waterfowl hunting. Iβm not saying there is no environmental impact. But be fair and look a the impact of your own food production also before getting too judgmental
Hi Bonita, just because I criticise hunting doesn't mean i don't also criticise the current means of food production. I do. I just don't think hunting is ethical. The two thoughts can coexist.
Mankind has already had an impact upon the environment. With plenty of fields to provide food for deer and no wolves in much of the state, there are no predators so the population check becomes cars, starvation in a bad winter, & disease without hunting.
True. 2 things can be true. Fir me those 2 things are: I donβt like hunting. I also donβt like modern industrial animal husbandry processes. I condemn irresponsible and unethical hunting. But the truth is, many wild populations in MN would suffer greatly without population control.
And bear they will move into populated areas for food when food is scarce. And they are very smart. If they learn that garbage cans etc are an easy food source, they will return.
Yes there is a place for ethical hunting, it happens here in Australia too, but it's very problematic, not all hunters are ethical, brutality is rampant in our kangaroo culling. Have we moved beyond people running around the countryside banging off guns? Ethical animal husbandry is better solution.