You know back in the 60s and 70s you could get your screenings and immunizations at the school. I lined up like all the kids in my class in first grade for a shot. I had to do that before my kid could go to school. Schools were places where you could have community, I wish it still were.

Maybe if it were, we could see each other as community and work to ensure the kids who can’t get vaccinated don’t die because RSA or measles are rampant in the school.

unfortunately, all of us will suffer for the misunderstanding of a minority of the population.

And yes, I mean that we are going to see a bunch of kids killed or horrifically, permanently injured, and then support for vaccination will start rapidly climbing back up.

I'm so sad it has to come to this and I hope we fucking re-learn why vaccines were our ancestors' wildest dreams

Oh dear me, no. That's probably too optimistic. Look at the anemic response to school shootings. I'd put money on the response being "alas, measles - when will they find the cure?" And then demographic implosion will hit just as child mortality spikes.

The measles vaccination rate reliably spikes in affected states when unvaxxed children die of measles in outbreaks in said states.

We still haven't had a proper uncontained national measles epidemic but we're probably going to get one soonish as national vaccination rates keep dropping. That, I suspect, will change many ppl's behavior. Hardcore nuts will do what they do, but most ppl who don't vax their kids aren't committed.

That's quite fair.

Maybe one of these days I'll post some pages of my grandmother's genealogical research just so that more people can see how 30-50% childhood mortality rates were fairly normal not all that long ago

I would prefer people voluntarily vaccinate their kids instead of the government mandating they do it.

The problem is that immunocompromised kids need very high vaccination rates among everyone else.

I understand. And if you have very high levels of voluntary vaccination, you don’t need the government mandate. But assuming that the no to mandatory vaccination is highly correlated with not going to vaccinate, the lower support for mandatory vaccination requires mandatory vaccination more.

I would have been much more likely to answer that poll question “no” in 2019 than I would be now.

Too bad, so sad. Next admin needs to criminalize it. Your kid died of measles? Electric chair for you. You can have a photo of your dead kids body while you're executed so the last moment is fully understanding what you did. I'm so over coddling these suicide cult freaks

At this point I'm wondering how long until they polarize themselves against sewage treatment. "I only drink Raw Water, obtained 50ft downhill from my whites-only outhouse"