Iam sorry but I blame Hilary for us getting Trump. Read Donna Brazils book, Bernie would of been President, it would of been a better world
Iam sorry but I blame Hilary for us getting Trump. Read Donna Brazils book, Bernie would of been President, it would of been a better world
I don’t know how 8 years later you could possibly blame Hillary when she won the popular vote. What about winning the popular vote would make you blame her? It doesn’t make any sense, and that’s why you got accused of misogyny.
Can you imagine if Bernie would have won?? What a wonderful thing it would have been.
Yes let’s blame a woman for a narcissists choices. Seriously. SMH.
Well said. Clinton was more qualified for the job. One could argue if Bernie and his bros coalesced around Clinton she would have won.
Look back at the Carter Reagan election— Ted Kennedy damaged Carter’s ability to win. Democrats need to learn to strategically time support for one candidate like they did in 2020. That is not what Bernie did in 2016.
He did. The dnc stated he could not have it WA st he won the gov gave hilary the votes. The dnc refused to count ca. the dnc needs to listen to the people. I voted blue no matter who always
There were no Bernie bros. We all backed Hilary after the dnc told us they chose the candidate
Respectfully were you watching the same convention I watched?Go back & roll tape. Do the same for the comments re: a targeted disinformation campaign on Clinton. What isn’t said is just as powerful as what is said—she got both wo much help from male colleagues (Barack & Betnie too little too late).
???? Nobody is blaming her. What is she even getting it for? Losing the 2016 election by running a terrible campaign that gave us Trump for President?
Yes
I am looking at actual actions and who won, I am pro women but there are many factors. Honesty and integrity matter unless your maga
I’m sorry. Your statement is sexist.
How exactly is it sexist to make a valid statement based on a person's actions and shortcomings, not their gender? Nothing derogatory was said regarding her being female. Being held accountable for poor choices when you have a national platform is necessary.
It’s a statement you wrote. I blame Hillary for getting Trump. Those are your words, not mine.
I didn't write it. I merely agree with it. Her actions, combined with the democratic party, resulted in the first Trump presidency. Independent reports regarding the 2016 election support that statement.
Wow, because I have issues with a campaign, Iam sexist or wise yet racist. Hilary was a train wreck. Harris should of won s
It is not I am dealing with policy and reality not the gender. If you cannot see the reasons we lost, you cannot fix them
You're absolutely right. We need to address the issues on all sides. There is no right or wrong in this. We just need to deal with them. Each of us sees a different view on how things need a change and we can come together and fight for it. Nobody is wrong in this. We fight the same fight. <3
The orange guy had been planning a campaign already and used the same tactics he used this time in 2016. Hillary really didn't have much to do with his rise. Hillary actually had more of a popular vote than him and there were bad people involved in the electoral college. www.bbc.com/news/electio...
Again her actions mattered, he rattled her on the debate stage. That shocked me
True. The orange guy is doing the same and it's working for him. Therein lies the problem for me. Why does it work for a man but not a woman.. ya know? I'm not disagreeing with you but I really think there was a problem with corruption. The map blue vs red for 2016 and 2024 map is exactly the same.
True but her policies did not help her
2. Link for more information, and I also think her gender was the issue as we know the orange dude did far worse than any POTUS in our lifetime and probably in history in the USA. We are just now finding out some of what she claimed is turning out to be true www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/hill...
There were good and bad points and some was just propaganda against her, inexperience, and email issue (link). There was disinformation then but I can say, with certainty, she was right about the orange dude in her book "What Happened". She nailed it. www.reuters.com/article/worl...
True
That's what makes us good. We can talk about things without adversity. This is how we fight the opposition. ^^
Exactly
I think her gender was the problem.
It could have been for some but not me. I cannot believe Harris did not win.
You should rather blame the education system.
There’s that
I blame white men and women for us getting Trump.
I blame the way the primary was handled