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Lance Parkin @lanceparkin.bsky.social

I think that's fair, but it points to the big problem with 'island of strangers', which is .. well, with all the real problems, why opt into that fight? What did it fix?

sep 5, 2025, 11:41 am • 2 0

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Owen Michael @owenwmichael.bsky.social

Honestly the way he's talked about it since has convinced me he genuinely did mean that line as a pivot /from/ talking about immigration to talking about supporting .... third spaces, basically... and thinks people were tricked into thinking he was talking about immigrants.

sep 5, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
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Owen Michael @owenwmichael.bsky.social

Rather than, you know, that being the obvious way to read it in context.

sep 5, 2025, 5:01 pm • 1 0 • view
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John B @johnb78.bsky.social

Starmer is the only person I've ever thought the "if only the Czar had better advisers" thing might actually be true for

sep 5, 2025, 5:03 pm • 3 0 • view
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theangelofhistory.bsky.social @theangelofhistory.bsky.social

It can’t be because the low quality of the advisers in a tyranny is a function of the personal defects of the ruler If he were a more talented person the problem wouldn’t exist because a more talented person would both appoint better advisers yet also not need them so much

sep 5, 2025, 5:09 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dan Klein @danlargebutklein.bsky.social

I love 3rd spaces wrt public space. If that was in the speech I'd have heard it. Idk if he's stupid as hell but christ that's madness to me.

sep 5, 2025, 9:54 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jonn Elledge @jonnelledge.bsky.social

yeah there's no defence for that

sep 5, 2025, 11:45 am • 1 0 • view
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Lance Parkin @lanceparkin.bsky.social

If the real problem is 'small boats', then Britain doesn't have real problems.

sep 5, 2025, 11:50 am • 0 0 • view
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Lance Parkin @lanceparkin.bsky.social

'Nuffin wrong with England that can't be solved by spray painting a flag onto a mini roundabout'.

sep 5, 2025, 12:00 pm • 0 0 • view