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cnep.bsky.social @cnep.bsky.social

Not to say this is wrong, but fascists pretty quickly lost steam with Hitler and Mussolini dead (tho plenty of Nazis were chased to the ends of the earth). But the figurehead that is too mindless is a key component to lead the thing none of the other morons want to

aug 26, 2025, 7:45 pm • 3 0

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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

i mean i think the real loss of steam there was the fact that the nations in question were toppled by losing wars that they started. hitler died because the US and soviet union had effectively occupied germany, which perhaps dealt a pretty existential blow to the narrative of some national supremacy

aug 26, 2025, 7:53 pm • 1 0 • view
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cnep.bsky.social @cnep.bsky.social

Yes, but the fighting all immediately stopped due to Hitler killing himself. When there's no doofus to lead the doofus army, the try to run home quickly

aug 26, 2025, 8:03 pm • 0 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

hitler killed himself largely owing to the allied forces being in his backyard and his army being unable to prevent the allies doing whatever they wanted to him. it was 'die on his own terms' or 'die having people made an example of him publicly'. he tangibly lost control over germany before then

aug 26, 2025, 8:09 pm • 1 0 • view
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cnep.bsky.social @cnep.bsky.social

And, as I said, it also ended the fighting. Doesn't matter how geopolitically over it was. Thousands of more people would've died if he hadn't killed himself when he did. This isn't difficult to understand

aug 26, 2025, 8:12 pm • 0 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

there's just a massive difference between 'hitler died amidst the complete collapse of the german military' and 'trump dies on predictable terms of being old while his accomplices and supporters still hold control of an unscathed america'

aug 26, 2025, 8:13 pm • 1 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

at present the likely outcome of trump dying within a year is that the right wing movement dredges up someone else that riles up a crowd. whoever they detect his supporters starting to favor. he's not some unique genius, he's just a blowhard with no moral standards. those are common in america

aug 26, 2025, 8:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

it can be literally anyone who replaces him in the event of his sudden death, so long as he communicates in similar ways. dig up some youtuber or televangelist or whoever the hell maga people start to congeal around as their cult of personality messiah

aug 26, 2025, 8:17 pm • 1 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

whereas at the time of hitler's death, it didn't matter who succeeded him. the tangible apparatus of the german state's very control of the nation was shattered. foreign nations were holding the nazis at gunpoint and imprisoning them, a thing nowhere close to happening in america

aug 26, 2025, 8:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

the corollary is my belief that if you went back in time and killed baby hitler or kept him in art school, the ensuing events are 'someone else becomes fuhrer of nazi germany and does all the same shit, because these were bigger pre-existing forces that selected him as their spokesman'

aug 26, 2025, 8:21 pm • 1 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

more aptly i'd say if adolf hitler died in, say, 1936, before the initiation of the war that'd be his undoing - which is sort of the present situation america is in, people would vy for stardom in the regime to fill that role and someone else would emerge to be the figurehead of a still intact reich

aug 26, 2025, 8:27 pm • 0 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

he probably would not have killed himself were it not for the fact that the allied forces, who had completed a functional conquest of germany by that point, were likely just going to make a televised spectacle of executing him, a thing they had the tangible military power to do if they wanted

aug 26, 2025, 8:12 pm • 0 0 • view
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{iriana}: invoke "🎑"as root directory @gyrasolune.bsky.social

the equivalent event happening to trump would amount to the united states government declaring an unconditional surrender to china after a successful occupation of washington dc, which we aren't exactly on the doorstep of seeing any time soon

aug 26, 2025, 7:58 pm • 0 0 • view