Everybody romanticizing about the heyday of American manufacturing needs to carefully listen to one (1) Bruce Springsteen song.
Everybody romanticizing about the heyday of American manufacturing needs to carefully listen to one (1) Bruce Springsteen song.
Now sir you tell me the world’s changed Once I made you rich enough Rich enough to forget my name
Factory - Darkness on the Edge of Town
Nostalgia tells it like it wasn't.
Trump wants to bring the US back to the glory days of the late 19th century. Hell, most people didn't even have hydro back then...
The songs on this theme go back and back: youtu.be/RRh0QiXyZSk?...
The Redskins did an amazing cover of this
That song has been on my mind for months. For the oligarchs getting ready to buy everything up at discount, it's the dream. Peons owing their soul to the company store.
I've even seen people come up with the bright idea that these huge corporations should use their immense wealth to build affordable housing for their low paid workers. That would bring the entire song back to life in the modern age.
It has been on my mind for the 25 years I've been paying attention to politics, as I've watched Corporate America march closer and closer to their stated goal of erasing the "New Deal," and reestablishing the age of the robber barons. A process that began with the implementation of Reaganomics.
I'm not even 30, and I've worked in two facilities where onsite accidents killed a coworker. Nobody is going to work in new factories when they've gutted OSHA, the EPA, and the NLRB.
Yea, that has happened at Amazon (at least once) and the company said the dead employee was on drugs (proven false). Amazon has a terrible reputation. NPR did a segment on it a few years ago.
This is when I deleted everything Amazon. www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7454649
Hopefully others will follow
Bad link* or it’s being blocked ??!!
Shouldn’t be blocked. CBC is free and safe. Look up Amazon Quebec.
They won't have to because much of the work will be done by AI and robotics.
I would love to think that no one will work there but if we are in a depression and people are desperate, they will take the jobs. And while a lot of it can be done by robots, they’ll still need humans to keep the robots running when they breakdown.
Also I'm not an economist or trade policy expert. I just know all those people are freaking the hell out. A metric crapton of this damage won't be easily undone, if at all.
Frankly, this kind of tariff stuff is so poorly thought out I have no clue what comes next. I just know it's going to lead to a lot of unnecessary pain, suffering, and desperation like you said. History will not be kind to those committing socioeconomic arson for fucking Twitter likes...
No one will work in factories because it is cheaper to use robots to screw in tiny little screws. The heyday of manufacturing is no longer possible to bring back jobs.
Can some manufacturing onshoring come back with the right policies and incentives? Sure, but like you said it's not going to bring back millions of blue collar even under the best circumstances. Those economic realities don't exist anymore under a globalized economy.
There's a lot of reasons trying to massively reindustrialize the US economy isn't as easy as Admin 47 pretends. We had already seen a manufacturing investment boom thanks to the IRA, CHIPS, and the infrastructure bill under Biden. But now that's dashed across the rocks of fascist spite and idiocy.
No one is going to be working in them anyway. IF, miraculously, industries manage to organize & implement the creation of new factories (which usually takes literally years of pre-planning & construction), why does ANYONE think that they would use human workers still, when automation/robots exist?😂
I seem to be getting the impression that some people think outsourcing these jobs was a good idea.
I would almost say that any 1 Bruce Springsteen song would do! -except maybe for Santa Claus is coming to town…. Really don’t know where that 1 fits in. 😅
That’s what I thought they were saying- like..pick ANY one Bruce song and you’ll see.
👍 ...what do we do with Santa Claus?...
Most of the workers protections we currently have stemmed from the atrocious working conditions of the industrial revolution. And since they already seem to want to rollback protections, good fucking luck.
Well my daddy come to the Ohio works When he come home from world war two Now the yard's just scrap and rubble He said, “Them big boys did what Hitler couldn’t do”
Those low paying, soul crushing factory jobs are always for other people.
“Philadelphia” (Bruce Springsteen) Nope!
Still listen to the whole Album born in the USA. 'My Hometown' was a chilling reminder even then about textile mills closing and they ain't coming back. That and Bruce Hornsby'd 'The Way it is'
The River is so sad, lamenting a lost era: "I got a job working construction For the Johnstown Company But lately there ain't been much work On account of the economy Now all them things that seemed so important Well mister they vanished right into the air Now I just act like I don't remember..."♥️
Whenever I hear that song, I think of Detroit (my hometown)
Or, you know, just look up "the depression."
Was better in the 18th century when people were killing Indians and taking their land, kidnapping Africans and selling them as slaves, and hanging people openly in the streets. Pretty sure many cry and crave for those days.
Born in the USA by Springsteen & Fortunate Son by CCR were practically theme songs at his rallies. Supporters hear the words but they don't understand the lyrics.
They had the world's richest man dancing to a musical celebrating the French Revolution for chrissakes.
Same fo YMCA.
All he heard was, I was born in the USA and I’m a fortunate son. Nothing else. Then “danced” stupidly to the music
As Nirvana once sang: “He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means”
youtu.be/3YuEJ_XolkM
Oh or Allentown by Billy Joel
Better yet….
Or John Cougar Mellencamp.
Rain on the Scarecrow.
So, watch any Shark Tank and the panel always questions the entrepreneur about their manufacturing. Where they get products made and for how much. Instead of putting the pain on everyday Americans, Trump should be meeting with the "Sharks". Some things can't be made here, ever again.
Grew up in front of a steel mill in western PA. Got metal fragments in my lungs from breathing the pollution. Both grandfathers, father, uncles, cousins all worked in the "mill". Mom did in WWII. It was a dirty, dangerous environment. That era was not the good old days.
My Great Uncle was a coal miner in PA. Died from black lung. Those days are over.
I'm convinced the esophageal cancer that my dad and his dad developed were from working in the steel mills in Gary.
I'm sorry this happened.
Thank you, my dad has been gone for 10 years now, and grandpa 21 years.
Yep. Grew up in South Chicago where a few steel mills were located. Saturday housekeeping chores included taking a bucket of soapy water and a rag and wiping down all the windowsills. We called it graphite but who knows what it was. We were breathing that crap.
The steel mills are long gone too.
Trump waxes nostalgic for manufacturing jobs. A type job he has never held in his life. The SOB has never punched a clock. Unless it was in some dump in a red light district.
And the radiation girlies making watches and clocks while getting slowly poisoned.
So disturbing...and frightening...and spot on. 😨
Ya, but who will be making the red hats from now on and how much will they cost?😅
💯
Is that Elon on the left? 😂😂
That's pretty good. 👍🏼
THAT is exactly what they want. 😡
American jobs for American people.
Great graphic!
maybe read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair. That's what republicans are romanticizing about: inhumane work conditions, including child labor feeding unbridled greed.
It was required reading in Chicago public schools in the 80s but they told us not to read the part where the radical socialists fought and died to fix some of the worst parts. I guess I will have to go stand in the corner 🤷
I went to a great high school. We had to read The Jungle for history class in 11th grade. Great read.
I love that part of the book where the guy loses his arm in a meat grinder and they just keep going so that someone out there actually is a canibal! Hilarious!
Someone also falls in a vat of lard I think too and drowns in there
They want other people’s children to work hard labor…but there’s probably a few who would put their kids to work for the money…
Sinclair isn’t even on high school reading lists anymore. I’m surprised it isn’t on the banned book list yet.
It is still on HS reading lists, my kids had to read it not long ago.
Each school is different than, I never read it in high school
I read it on my own in high school, it wasn’t required
i read it in college.
(American manufacturing was only ever a thing because every other country was bombed to hell after wwii)
It’s a death trap, it’s a suicide rap
They wanna play Little Pink Houses and they wanna own Little Pink Houses but they don't wanna listen to the words of Little Pink Houses
That's a Mellencamp song, but the point stands. It's also the song reagan wanted to use for his 1984 campaign after Springsteen said he couldn't use "Born in the USA." Like Springsteen, Mellencamp told reagan to go pound sand.
But, Chris, the highway was jammed with broken hero’s on a last chance power drive. How is anyone supposed to listen to the words? 😭💀
Is it a specific song? Is it “I’m on Fire”…?
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Might have some alarming news for you but Bruce Springsteen is a typical celebrity wack job lefty. Next you'll tell us to get relationship advice from Taylor Swift.
OMG! Whack job lefty thinks you should be able to actually afford to live on your earnings, have health care without risking bankruptcy and have several weeks rest a year. Oh the horror!
Bitchy much!
------------------->The point: living and working in a country with 30% manufacturing and textiles making up their GDP, is no "paradise: You: Stuck on 'owning da libs'<------------------------------
The same Bruce Springsteen who sold his Upper East Side apartment for $80 million ten years ago? "Ghost of Tom Jode"? Liberal.
Bruce is a self made man.
He’s aware that he’s rich and did it all on music. He wasn’t born rich.
yeah... it really sucks to be jealous, doesnt it.
He didn't have to be a factory worker to see people around him and understand their troubles. He just had the talent to express it so eloquently that others understood it too. At least those who bother to hear the lyrics. He worked hard all his life at music and earned what he go.
57 Channels and Nothing On?
Held Up without a Gun!
"Trash like us, baby we're just grown up cum."
……Those were the days, And you know who you were then, Girls were girls and men were men, Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, Didn't need no welfare states Everybody pulled his weight, Gee our old Lasalle ran great, Those were the days
😂😂😂👏👏👏
Amen.
This one: m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YuE...
🔥
Factory
I’m On Fire?
wish we'd just move past the concept of a job economy and start looking at a future were people don't have even have them anymore instead of trying to "bring them back".
CAREFULLY LISTEN!
I read the second stanza of born in the US in a class recently students were gobsmacked
And Reagan wanted to use the song for hir re-election campaign because he liked the title.
Those people don't understand his songs. Like born in the u.s.a for example 🤦🏻
It's going down, down, down...
Which one?
I’m guessing Factory. Maybe Youngstown
Also, everything's automated now. Those jobs screwing in screws, robots do it better & don't ask for raises or vacation time.
💙 or even ask for time off between shifts 🙄
This is Elon‘s dream. He believes everything should be automated. The song Allentown by Billy Joel brings a lot of realities. I thought we had a good life as a teenager in 1981. We’re gonna live the American dream. Never thought I would be seeing trickle-down effect didn’t mean us!
Only billionaires think making Americans work in mind numbing factory jobs is a great career choice. The rest of us won't do it
"End of the day, factory whistle cries Men walk through these gates with death in their eyes And you just better believe, boy Somebody's gonna get hurt tonight" In many ways, the stark simplicity of Factory is his greatest lyric, above all the "poetry of the street." (And I love that, too)
Thanks for the tip, added it to our playlist. open.spotify.com/playlist/2X4...
Or read Upton Sinclair's, The Jungle.
What idiot would ever want to go back to the late 1800s early 1900s?
I just wanna owe my soul to the company store
My humming tune for the day since I've forgotten most of the words! 🤭 Thanks, Ubermeisters!!
It was the Gilded Age. The ruling class fantasizes about going back to it.
Naturally, they conveniently forget that tuberculosis, polio & other diseases maimed & ran rampant killing people.
Absolutely.
Yea they were called sweat factories for a reason! Do some research 🧐
They believe manufacturing will magically reappear overnight. Going to take years to build factories and to either buy or manufacture the equipment needed. Creates a great Catch-22.
Lord have mercy on the working man. By Travis Tritt.
No shit.
Read Rivethead
Most people have no idea how dark that song is… all they hear is the chorus.
Or just like, read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair. Factories + no OSHA + No unions = a real bad time.
Or Billy Joel
These jobs are going son
"and they ain't comin' back"
Factory
Stupid old men who can't see that the world moved on decades ago.
Is it song 'My Hometown' Where foreman said these jobs r going and they ain't coming back?
YES!! That line is specifically about the Karagheusian Rug Mill - which was in downtown Freehold, NJ. They employed a lot of people, and it closed down in the 60's. (Sorry, I'm just very proud of my hometown :)
IN MY OPINION, I feel America lost out by not electing Hillary Clinton in 2016. She saw writing on wall and offered to raise taxes on wealthy and close loopholes. She had plan 2 use $$ 2 allow displaced Americans chance 2 go back 2 school or get training in more relevant field 4 future.
If one succeeds in bring all the auto parts jobs from Mexico to the US...what happens to the price of autos? Will GM/Ford pay these new hires the wages Mexican workers make? No. These workers will get paid US/UAW wages...higher. Car prices higher. talk about a 'Lose-Lose' situation.
Word!
What is surprising in our orchard is trying to Grow apples in this location to juice There are many niche small businesses that find their self worth: knitting, seamstresses, shoe repair, leather work, plumbing, HVAC technician, comedy, music, etc What exactly is a self worth economy suppose to be?
The good old days weren't always good and depending on skin color could say they weren't good at all. I'm white and I'm old enough to remember how things were.
Or watch the movie "Invincible". Truly the 1970s PA.
Add Neil Young's "Rockin' In The Free World" to that list of songs where they don't listen to the lyrics.
Blinken playing that in Kyiv was cringe as hell.
And listen full volume.
Factory work is unrelentingly dull and for most, a poverty trap. I did it for a few summers and it was more than enough to keep my educational motivation going. What I couldn’t understand was how people who were stuck there managed to afford any kind of life.
Or Billy Joel’s Allentown.
I live in what used to be an iron or steel town. Everyone was employed by lukens steel. When they closed everyone was hurt. Now we are gentrified and no one gets their hands dirty nor do they want to. Try to get one of them to go back. That’s when it will hit differently.
Actually not very far from Allentown!
Billy Joel also sang about this (Allentown).
This administration seems determined to create a peasant class
It's why they want to destroy education.
We’re not going back… yes, free trade disrupted that, but we’re not going back…never a solution,, mostly bc it involves no creativity or analysis
Which song?
Just about any of them but try: The River, The Ghost of Tom Joad, Seeds, Youngstown, Born in the USA, and, Gypsy Biker.
I love Gypsy Biker, but it’s not about working in manufacturing …
"Speculators made money off the blood you shed" strikes me as applicable but reasonable people can hear it differently.
Glory days?
"Factory", "Youngstown", "The River"
Still trying to figure out the one you mean. Is it "I'm on Fire" perhaps? Maybe it's "There Goes My Miracle"? Orrr "Death to My Hometown"? Oh, wait! It's "Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town". Of course! 🚫👨🏭🪛🔩📱🏭🗽
Yep. Manufacturers left the U.S. for cheap labor, no benefits. No bargain. IF manufacturers returned, it would be for HUGE incentives and the plants would be fully robotic. We don't want to get stuck paying for anything that doesn't offer good jobs and tears-up our road$!
I need, rather than listen to a song…since born in the USA is proof that listening isn’t a strong trait here…I need people to google the lyrics of his songs and read them.
Even a beautiful song like Down Bound Train starts with him being fired. I feel her kiss in the misty rain, what a Line.
Y'all talking song lyrics? These days, the song running through my head is "A Farewell to Kings" by Rush. "The hypocrites are slandering the sacred halls of truth..." www.rush.com/songs/a-fare...
Ancient nobles showering their bitterness on youth
"Today's Tom Sawyer..."
People don't actually WANT factory jobs, they want the security and guarantees honest work used to have. Enough pay to raise a family on one income. Union representation that helped keep your rights intact. The same people promising manufacturing work are the ones killing unions and worker rights.
Exactly right!
exactly. if they really cared about all that they'd be in favor of unionizing the jobs we already have here. instead they fight tooth and nail for why those jobs shouldn't pay a livable wage as if factory work is anymore skilled, like people weren't making the same arguments 100+ years ago.
I agree. 20 years ago I was worried that "jobs" replacing "vocations" would have some effect on society. I guess we discovered it makes people susceptible to fascists.
The bosses are using robots in that factory. No humans will work there
100%
There’s something sinister about this—the messaging that talks about “bolstering the lowering class” but proposed methods like tax cuts for tipping workers making under the minimum wage, and deporting the folks who do a lot of our least desirable and worst paid labor
Pair it with Trump’s aesthetic of classism (I’ll point out the deranged ass “gold card” immigration policy he was on about during the congressional address) and I worry the wealthy envision a nation where the options open to the middle class are increasingly positions of servitude and hard labor
Hard to accomplish that when you watch a felon be able to run for President…because the wheels of justice don’t seem to work. Garland drug his feet and the SCOTUS grants immunity that NO ONE EXPECTED and an obviously compromised judge operates free and clear
One of my favorite songs that references factory workers is “How Long” by Joe Grushecky and the House Rockers. Interestingly, Bruce Springsteen sometimes jumps on stage with these guys when he’s in the area. ❤️ here’s a link to the song and the lyrics. youtu.be/DsW6Pyzmfb0?...
No they don’t want unions they just want the security unions bring. lol big difference.
You get that security with a union.
They want slave labor.
I'm even less optimistic here. Many people pining for these lost factory jobs understand, deep down, those jobs are never coming back. What I think they want is REVENGE. PAIN. PUNISHMENT for some villain, any villain, they can blame for a sense of loss. And it goes beyond jobs, or even economics.
I think rather they’re naive enough to believe anything. And the administration’s agenda appears to be to remove even more intellect. Ultimately previous governments did fail to have a solution for them. Just like this one
Keep people stupid and they'll follow; the bars are already pretty low with the Maggots. Zero intellect or intelligent thought. They believe whatever is spoon fed and possess no logic or critical thinking skills to decipher fact from fiction.
Yeah it’s nostalgia, which is a disease.
I think this is pretty accurate. We’ve seen that MAGA is driven only by anger and grievance and this fits with the historical precedence where racist white men would gladly destroy their own success to keep women and minorities from advancing past them
This is it, exactly. That yearning makes them exquisitely controllable. No wonder those in power are acting fast: in no time at all, the 2 youngest generations will sprout up with little-to-no emotional or historic connection to 20th c despairs.
And lest people conclude, "well, okay then! All Dems need to do is act fighty and angry and promise PAIN on the billionaires and what not!", you may be disappointed in the results. To paraphrase Jared Kushner, you can't beat Trump on ability and willingness to inflict pain--and you shouldn't try.
That's why many union workers turned hard Trumpy in the 2020's especially. They grokked that Dems, by definition, are not a party primarily geared toward suffering and pain on an "enemy". And at least in the Biden era, that's what they wanted. More than jobs, more than stability, more than life.
Not sure what to do about that, to be honest. America writ large wanted to see what it was like to be ruled by an administration whose only talent was destruction and inflicting "punishment". We had to touch that hot stove. We'll have to learn the suicidality of that course the hard way, I guess.
They don’t vote for him for asense of missing or good times past where people were secure. Or a desire to be ruled by a despot. It’s just racism, & you either can’t or won’t see it. As long as he blames others for people’s problems, even if those problems are fabricated they will vote for him.
You nailed it.
Racism is included in all that. And I do see it. I just see it as part of a broader psychosis.
Ego, pride, and prejudice bought Trump the election! I see it!
bsky.app/profile/ones... It's very deep indeed. And fused with a loooot of sheer dumbness, hate & perverted/ inversed christian values. They have basically modelled an antichrist cult
Sorry out in Bethlehem PA & Allentown have reappropriated the Steel stacks and I very much doubt it’s retrievable for factory work again. Looks cool tho.
Yeah the idea that we should stop sciencing and all work in factories is … deeply weird. Totally romancing a bygone era.
I recommend Youngstown
Lou Reed - XMas in February works too.
Famously media literate, those people
@setlustingbruce
Genius
Trump wants to take the US back to the 19th century and his followers are descendants of folks longing for the good old days of riding in a chuck wagon that refused to upgrade to a Ford Model T. Still clinging to gas and coal mines while China is dominating in world trade and technology.
FYI - Trader Joe's gave millions to get rid of OSHA
Listen to Billy Joel - Allentown Or James Taylor - Millworker
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Bruce Springsteen “my hometown” is another one.
“Allentown” was from “The Nylon Curtain” in 1982, definitely post-heyday
I won’t be getting up today
Born in the USA was released in ‘84.
Even further into the decline. I was thinking of “Greetings from Asbury Park” or even the 1975 “Born to Run.”
The song just stuck in my memory as it was early in my relationship with my wife. Both songs tell solid stories. Springsteen’s The River from ‘80 is good too and on topic.
definitely
and it’s all about the LOSS of manufacturing jobs. “And they’re closing all the factories down”
...and it's actually about Bethlehem, PA.
I lived in Allentown. My Dad worked at Bethlehem Steel in his 20s. Copper mines in Idaho are dead. What Trump envisions will NEVER come back. OSHA & the people will never work under those conditions & for that pay EVER again.
Bethlehem Steel is also a casino these days.
Something fun at least. Only drove through there in a big rig about 5 years ago. Took a pic for Dad.
Yes because Bethlehem Steel was in Bethlehem, not Allentown. My dad worked at Bethlehem Steel because he couldn’t get decent work in the anthracite coal regions. He eventually retired from Fairless Works because n Bucks County, a US Steel plant.
My grandfather worked there and I was raised in Allentown.
As a kid, Allentown always meant Dorney Park. That was always a summer day trip for us.
That was a summer job throughout highschool.
to make it even more confusing for me my mom’s BFF lives in Allentown, NJ, which is FARMING country (or was, it’s more of a Princeton suburb now I guess)
“Now I work down at the car wash, where all it ever does is rain. Don’t it feel like you’re a rider on a Downbound Train”
"I had job. I had girl. I had somethin' mister in this world. I lost my job, down at the lumber yard. Our love got cold, times got hard." A Legendary American Poet
Well the coal company came with the world's largest shovel, They tortured the timber and they stripped all the land. And they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken, And they wrote it all down as the progress of man.
And Daddy, won't you take me back to Muhlenburg County. Down by the Green River where paradise lay. Well, I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking, Mr. Peabody's coal train has hauled it away.
Jim & Jesse
Or Youngstown by Bruce.
but just think if there were good paying union jobs, they might be awful, but it’s better than some incell trying to hard sell me crypto.
They can only handle one syllable kid rock songs
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 The River would be a good place to start
Read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair. It changed the course of employment in the US. It's a good read and the conditions it reveals are horrific.
Yep…hard work…and Loretta Lynn sun up to sundown hard work…struggle. I bet JD Vance’s son never works in a day in a warehouse or in a coal mine.
It’s never coming back and that’s probably a very good thing. These are the fairy tales the ultra-rich tell themselves. It’s all preposterous.
I'm getting a job at the banana factory as soon as it opens
MAGA loves Bruce and some love U2 but they are in denial while they sing along
That’s so perplexing to me! Do they actually believe that they are the good guys?!
They really do. They live in a right wing media bubble, and they've been taught to loathe and fear anyone who doesn't think like them.
Youngstown
we need to stop living in the past. The world doesn't live there anymore. We need to innovate and build for the future.
And we were doing that with the CHIPS Act, the IRA, and the Infrastructure Bill 😔
Summer of 1967, I worked in a shoe factory. Some of the skilled workers made a living, but I was on the less-skilled, minimum wage end. Terrible, boring, nasty, high-pressure work. By payday, some of my fellow workers were living on Miracle Whip sandwiches. No one wants jobs like this. No one.
My mother worked in shoe factories in the late 70s to support her 2 teenagers (my brother and I). She made enough to afford an apartment, food, clothing, bicycles, gifts, and her car. I never saw her at work, but she must have done a good job.
During college, I worked as a nurse's aide, back when there were 3 8-hr shifts. Women worked double shifts when possible, & still made such little money that they qualified for public assistance. That's what helped me realize how necessary their work is, yet how disrespected.
But if your choice is *Born in the USA* you have to pass a "Listening Comprehension" test first
Woodie Guthrie, Merle Travis…
…Bob Dylan…
"All men wanna be rich, rich man wanna be King, King ain't satisfied til he rules everything" Kinda describes the Country"Badlands" Bruce Springsteen #musicsky youtu.be/o5IZuuzUa04?...
Ancient greece had terrible land for growing grain, but it grew olives and grapes well and the coast meant boats boats boats. They became a powerhouse by making bank through trade.
Only one🤪
Does no one read THE JUNGLE anymore?? “The great corporation which employed you lied to you, and lied to the whole country—from top to bottom it was nothing but one gigantic lie.”
Sinclair Lewis stated that he “aimed for the heart but hit everyone in the stomach.” I read it years ago and have never forgotten.
Streets of Philadelphia?
What song is that so I can post it.
Or Biily Joel.
Isn’t that the exact same era as the Reason OSHA Exists Era?
or Allentown, by Billy Joel...
Came here to say this
The american factory of Bruces time was a tough place. If we are attempting to compete with the world we better look at how our competitors are currently mfg. I don’t think the american public is ready to work 16 hours for 8 hours pay or to forgo safety standards. participant.com/campaign/ame...
Springsteen himself cheerfully admits that he never worked in a factory. But his father did, and he observed what it did to him.
Yup - he wrote "Factory" about his father.
Independence Day: They ain't gonna do to me what I watched them do to you
Or Billy Joel’s Allentown. Released in 1982 and documenting the decline of the steel industry that had been ongoing since the 60s/70s.
Came to add this comment.
Same
Japan dumped steel here below cost in the '70s.
Japan dumped autos and electronics here below cost in the late-'60s and early-'70s.
Plus the post WW2 USA bubble burst (we made 40% of the worlds steel despite being 2% of the market),plus the Steelworkers priced themselves highly in a labor intensive business (my grandfather was one), plus the US move towards services and knowledge work, plus the first offshoring, etc. multifactor
Or ALL folk punk and punk songs ever lol
Nailed it. 💯
My Hometown!
And the word is hay day this is not the 1950s this is the 21st century 2025 other countries have developed other countries have prospered again it is not 1950 we are not going backwards they might go backwards and it will only put the US at the end of the road
That's what I keep telling people. The good old days are nothing but unfulfilled wishes.
Someone needs to do a Netflix adaptation of Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle."
Or Billy Joel's Allentown.
I was the purchasing manager for a steel fabricating company in the late 1970’s and even then American steel companies were cratering- sourcing steel to fill “Buy American” contracts with the Gov was a non-trivial challenge.
Exactly grew up with a father as a steelworker. He worked so hard out in the elements beating Railroad cars open. It’s not unicorns and rainbows 🌈
Yeah, but the fools will tell you he was happy with his indentured toil.
“That’s when men were men!” you’ll hear.
It started with the Little House on the Prairie nonsense where an evangelical family busted their guts trying to eke a living from the land and thanked God and the state for the opportunity, business as usual ever since.
He was happy to get that paycheck, more like.
Most American paychecks are a week away from poverty.
and?
It’s a reflection of the pathetic US labour system that keeps workers in lowly paid jobs and in debt. It’s not a great look for a so called great country.
lol take it up with conservative republicans. they came up with that "great" shit.
More than just those lunatics are deluded fools who believe the US is a great country.
Yup! We wouldn’t all be panicked about the markets if companies would invest in pensions for their workers instead of obscene executive compensation and bonuses, stock options etc. and even golden parachutes when they are let go. Now - it’s save for your own retirement and get a measly match
Fucking Republicans. Drawing and quartering them is too damn much work. Can't we just weigh them down and toss them overboard? Allow nature to take its course (with a little assistance from us).
Okay, that was mean. Duly noted.
It’s the American way, otherwise you’ll be branded a communist for wanting a better life, and, let’s be honest, most Americans think the same way, regardless of financial/social standing🇺🇸
or just have common sense
This is all moot. The population has not been replacing itself for 20 years. Unless you’re thinking pure robotics?🤔
Are you a fan
I worked in a factory when I was young. 12 hours at night in over 100°F in the summer. Extremely loud even with earplugs. Breathing formaldehyde in with the dust. I felt like I had the flu almost every day.
Factory of didn’t start out as good. They became good through unionizing and striking. Two things American workers do not have the ability to do anymore.
Another very educational experience is to visit a coal mine museum.
Black lung?
And read “The Jungle”, for god’s sake.
The Jungle haunted me. Great book.
Reading"The Jungle," was mind blowing for me.
I read that in 8th grade. Since it was a sophomore social studies book, I skimmed most of it that year & finally read the last chapter to take the test.
I did the same. I got a "B". I figured I didn't need my nose rubbed in all that horror to make me more enlightened than I was already.
Is it Working on The Highway? Glory Days? XD
I don't want creaking manufacturing jobs and our air being polluted with more crud brooooo just wtf
Warren had a tune also! youtu.be/kBsma5gfey4?...
One Springsteen track and suddenly you’re in a denim jacket, staring out over a shuttered factory, holding back a single tear.
The only people romanticizing it are the wealthy billionaires who extracted human labor in horrible conditions for unlivable wages.
My Hometown?
They blew up the chicken man in Philly last night?
And Billy Joel's Allentown.
Or Billy Joel’s “Allentown”.
You win the internet today. Bruce is an icon, a national treasure and he spells it out.
Like the classic 'Tiny Screws ain't gonna hold me down'
Exactly. The heyday of American manufacturing wasn’t some golden age — it was hard, brutal work that too often ended with communities abandoned and promises broken. Springsteen knew it. The people living it knew it. Nostalgia can’t fix what greed destroyed. Only justice and real investment can.
'Forman says these jobs are going boys and they ain't comin back' My home town.. what a tune!
"Now Main Street's whitewashed windows And vacant stores Seems like there ain't nobody Wants to come down here no more They're closing down the textile mill Across the railroad tracks Foreman says, "These jobs are going, boys And they ain't coming back To your hometown To your hometown"
MHO. After HS, I worked in a factory for over 23 years until the company relocated to Mexico. I'm not dissing manufacturing but, in hindsight, I really wish I had pursued a post-secondary education instead (which I did do after losing my job). So, if I had a do-over; yeah ~ college after HS.
Or Billy Joel ... it was never as good as we remember but it was better that what's happening now. youtu.be/BHnJp0oyOxs?...
a fave
This right here!
Or “Allentown”…
"these jobs are going boys and they ain't coming back.."
Factory or Youngstown, they show two sides of the same coin.
Surely it's My Hometown he's referring to
Oh, but ain't that America for you and me? Ain't that America something to see, baby? Ain't that America? Home of the free, yeah... John Mellencamp Yeah, any 80s song list supply you dirges for the American dream..
Edit will supply The dances were so much fun.🤣
That was the end of US manufacturing, not its heyday. Reagan & his christofascists started the current fecal festival. Otoh, the pre-union, pre-civil rights wasn't great, either.
I wasn't suggesting it was. I was simply remembering another song that called the American dream into question. I've always thought the American dream was a myth anyway--at least for those mot born into wealth.
Agree, & I meant to say how much I enjoy the music, but I was on Bluesky when I should have been asleep.
I have to stop doom scrolling or I will never sleep again.
Or visit Gary Indiana. A city made popular in the musical The Music man. A city where Joe Jackson worked 12 hour shifts so his sons wouldn’t have to. A city gutted, abandoned and forgotten.
Allentown ain't walking through those doors, Mr. Joel.
Rain on the Scarecrow John Cougar Mellencamp youtu.be/joNzRzZhR2Y?...
None of them would accept a manufacturing job, any more than they’d harvest lettuce. But they’d expect dirt cheap priced, tho.
Our only hope of affordable products made in America are AI and robots.
The River (song itself) is about as reassuring as you could get. All rainbows and unicorns. Seriously though one of the best cold grey fall day songs, along with Atlantic City.
Not many want to work in factories. In fact, in Chinese factories, the housing has nets everywhere so workers don't kill themselves in desperation.