75% of the National Guard troops deployed to Los Angeles said they will not re-enlist due to the deployment davisvanguard.org/2025/07/trum...
75% of the National Guard troops deployed to Los Angeles said they will not re-enlist due to the deployment davisvanguard.org/2025/07/trum...
Unfortunately, that just means that people with consciouses will leave, making room for more hard-core sociopathic white christian nationalist racist misogynist violent anti-constitution AHs.
That lot have already found a new club with ICE. Those particular sociopaths are definitely going to join the gestapo. However we take this news, it's vastly overshadowed by the incredible funding that ICE has been given.
This isn't the win people think it is. Along with degrading the State's ability to deploy the NG in times of emergency, it provides an opening for white supremicists and budding Fascists to dominate the NG, and abuse their new-found power unchecked.
How many of them said they'll refuse to kick the shit out their fellow citizens when ordered to?
Good.
In other news, 25% of the California National Guard is fascist.
In other other news, 100% went along anyway.
The military are required to follow legal orders, and when the legality is questionable they'll mostly follow the letter of the orders strictly, but half-ass it and do no more than is precisely specified. The National Guard are not the enemy, and are not fascists. They'll normal working stiffs ...
1) what’s the point of the oath then? They’re already hurting people and did in LA too 2) “they’re working stiffs” is such an insane thing to say when that’s true of 99% of the people we learn not to emulate from history
... who put in one weekend a month and two weeks a year, and turn out to help with natural disasters. I got my first two COVID shots from NG troops at a community health center. In this case, the LA troops are probably bloody annoyed that Trump wrecked their July 4th plans for no good reason.
they'd shoot at civilians if order to, how can you be this delusional? "oh they'll definitely not do it" lol. lmao. shame your ignorance will be paid in blood by others
One point of comparison is the recent attempted coup in South Korea. The troops were ordered to block the doors of the parliament building. They let lawmakers climb the walls to get in, and they didn't use their weapons.
Nope, sorry. Doesn't fly with me. You do the deed, you share the blame. "Just following orders" is not a valid excuse.
Speaking as a veteran, fuck that shit. Yes, there will consequences, that's the damn point
They could just stand down!
The downside is that just increases the ratio of maga scum in our armed forces.
Garuantee they will try to do mandatory service requirement for men (poor men) 18 (maybe even 16)-21 if they hold on in '26
Protecting thugs disappearing Tamale ladies is not what we signed up for.
The Guard hates extended deployments even when its for a good cause. No surprise they weren't going to be jazzed about this shit.
how is the army recruitment going, white boys?
Meaning that what will be left are the converted fascists. Cool. What could go wrong.
That's nice, but what they really should be doing is refusing to obey an illegal order.
All threats, foreign and domestic. At this point it is the duty of the military to remove Trump
Would you be willing to risk court martial…???
You realize it’s a job that includes the threat of a violent end of life, right? And an oath?
They haven't had any orders yet. They've been standing around smoking cigarettes. The sum total of their engagement in LA was to detain one person for five minutes.
Yes! I feel so bad for enlisted Americans right now. They are facing such difficult decisions. But a time will come when Trump will ask them to kill fellow Americans who are resisting. I hope everyone is figuring out what they are going to do when that order comes.
They need to decide ahead of time what their line in the sand is, because after it happens there's always a justification we make to say it isn't that bad or we're overreacting or something (it's a human nature thing). www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFd...
Is it difficult to abide the law? Illegal is illegal.
Talk about killing morale
That restores my confidence in the national guard.
Because some of them might not re-up AFTER they carry out illegal orders and commit crimes against humanity? The oly thing that would restore my confidence is if the overwheling manority 9f them refused illegal orders to commit crimes against humanity.
I can't blame them. You send them to attack our OWN CITIZENS..
Thus disarming a very large Democratic leaning state! :'(
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Why not just quit on spot?
That's not allowed. If they refuse to follow an order or abandon their post they'd be arrested, court martialed, and imprisoned. That is a near certainty. If they obey these orders, that I believe are illegal, chances are very slim that they would ever be tried in some kind of Nuremberg type trials.
I may misunderstand completely what national guard is. I had the feeling it was a volonteer "on demand" availability, unlike regular army.
You enlist. You typically serve a few weeks per year. But you can get called up as reserves and have to serve for months or more (like happened while we were fighting in Iraq). When you are on active duty you are subject to the Uniform Military Code of Justice. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...
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good start, but next time frag co
Better the watch the 25% who liked it.
Good.
Good! But does that mean 25% is MAGA? If so, that’s a problem. 25% is way too much MAGA represented in the military. We need the number to be ZERO. That would make America great.
I think a segment. Some people may re-enlist after Trumps term or are career servicepeople. I believe enlistment is 8 years
If your child is in the military Urge them not to reenlist!
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tRump and vance and musk and the magats in the house and senate and all the magat governors and politicians are IDIOTS.
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I don't blame them.
Of course by then they won't be allowed to get out of the guard bc of "emergencies"
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So we need to start raising legal defense teams because refusing an illegal order will land them in the brig and catch them charges of disobeying orders. If they have no reasonable path out they will follow those orders
This is EXCELLENT news.
Until National Guard is needed for natural disaster supply coordination. Which they are very good at.
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People join the guard to be able to serve their country in a time of need. Natural disasters, good. Combat support, good, if it makes sense. Going to the border to stop illegals or just police the streets, when they have jobs and families to deal with, is just asking them to leave.
Similar to the percentage of Americans who don’t like how Orange Julius is handling immigration.
Good start
its a start but it will be good when they aren't being reactionary muscle
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Great, in a couple of years they won’t reenlist but what about now? Will they or won’t they follow unlawful orders? That’s what we all need to know!
This is the result of not considering the down-stream consequences. A small mind sees one simple option in a complex and nuanced array of them.
Quitting AFTER they commit crimes against humanity is not going to save them from eventual charges. Refusing to follow those illegal orders will save them and thier souls, but it would probably also get them chargesld for disobeying orders. To be fair, that's a tough call.
Where this admin is taking us... cannot blame them