“If none of us is prepared to die for freedom, then all of us will die under tyranny. -Timothy Snyder, “On Tyranny” He’s speaking literally.
“If none of us is prepared to die for freedom, then all of us will die under tyranny. -Timothy Snyder, “On Tyranny” He’s speaking literally.
Yep, I know what I'm signing up for.
I really prefer better options... can't I just BLAME some innocuous third party for my circumstance? It seems to be all the rage...
If we have to die, I will die standing up not lying down. I’m no one’s door mat!
don't die for freedom!!! just arrest trump on insurgency and his convictions of fraud, and bring to light all his russian connections and how he and musk are working with US's enemies. Easier than dying! I promise!
This need the light shone on it brightly. We are being forced to accept a traitorous fraud and ignorant selfish gasbag as a leader. I do not acknowledge him.
I like it
Trump and Musk are above all laws
are you a paid agitator or a bot? how much does it cost musk to bring 1000 of yous in here?
Believe it.
If you believe in democracy, you have to respect the voters decision to give it up. Let it all burn.
Yep, everyone needs to read his book!
We are going to die in a pandemic first with this cabinet.
Get all your vaccinations NOW!
I have bleed for America. I would have died. The dieing war bound is young. This is a survivor post
Agreed, but who will lead us??
It’s going to have to be someone from the general population. All our elected officials are mostly pointless and complacent.
Can't we just watch the movie? I'll protest by not buying popcorn...
That book should be required reading for everybody…
Loved, loved, loved this book.
As in, Right Now!!!!!
The frightening part is that a large number of his supporters are willing to take up arms against fellow citizens.
I’d rather die on my feet than on my knees.
Our options for doing this the non-violent way are rapidly disappearing.
Time to take a page out of the far-right playbook. The state doesn't use tear gas on or incite a riot with the far-right because they protest armed.
Maybe harder than this thought for many, is the fear of speaking out locally, such as the local school board or city council, being "booed" or ostracized by some, and living with having taken a stand in some small way. Saying that school should not be a place where families fear ICE. Just that.
we got to get some drones, they are testing theirs
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Kennedy is doing his best to ensure that
Sage.
I believe this, and I have read Snyder's books that will curl the hair the back of your neck! If one refuses to risk death in fighting for our democracy, then our democracy will blow away with trash in the winds of cowardice.
Ugh yes. Just when I’m about to be a grandma. Now I have to decide between death and grandmaing. Shit. Fuck.
I asked for an election investigation for a month. I know it was rigged. No one listened. @gavinnewsom.bsky.social
They are going to have to kill me then. Fuck all fascists!!!!
@steviegrrrl.bsky.social
I’m so pissed off lately that I’m feeling something like kinship to the resistance fighters of fascist Germany back in the 40s
Yes.
Unfortunately, yes.
I'm prepared to die for a better future for my family and the folks who can't fight. I'm ready. I won't stand on the sidelines, wishing someone would do something, or things will just get better. It's all hands on deck with this fight.
Giving this very important book to several people for Christmas
“When all that’s left is the fall, the fall is everything.” Caimh McDonnell, Last Orders (Dublin Trilogy publication order, #4; Dublin Trilogy chronological order, #8) Sadly for too many HOW, and not if, they die is now all that’s important.
I am literally willing to die on this hill. I am old. I have lived during some of this country's brightest moments. More recently I have lived through some of our darkest that I greatly fear will get worse. This. This moment in American history. This is my HILL. I will defend to my last breath.
sigh......... yup
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I've heard at least five commentators on television cite this book and this author in the past week.
All we need is about 10% of the population….
“Be as courageous as you can”
Hand me my weapon and direct me to my post.
I actually told a friend today that I will go to prison rather than buckle under. I didn’t realize how scared I am about this new administration.
Yes. Literally. And I'm literally pissed off that these ass hats have put us in this position. I just want to enjoy my "later years" God damn it!!!! I don't want to have to play their effing games. But. But, I can not abide this bull shit 😡
I'm right there with ya!
Unfortunately, most people will choose to live under tyranny than die for democracy. We are not made of the same strong stuff as my father and others of the Greatest Generation who fought the Nazis/Fascists for four years until they defeated them, saving our USA from turning into Nazi Germany.
The self-absorbed, immediate gratification ME generation.
They can’t kill us all.
Dying for the powerful & greedy is somehow so much more gratifying for the common folk than freedom.
Respect
“Head like a hole. Black as your soul. I’d rather die. Then give you control. Bow down before the one you serve. You’re going to get what you deserve.” The sentiment of Timothy Snyder youtu.be/ZdFaadxJl4g?...
Well. We’re heading to the border when deportations begin. A whole clack of old ladies and a few dudes
"We must all hang together or we will all hang separately" -Benjamin Franklin
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Yes.
This is the kind of rhetoric that people thought was so dangerous from the jan 6 groups. I thought the left looked down on this kind of thing.
On earth, every woman knows EVERYDAY that she could be killed. And, that her murderer will get away with it. In this moment, many are living what we live daily. Welcome to the end of patriarchy. They were never going to go quietly.
Someone like him Said the same. People are going to die fighting for our freedom
Well, people have become too comfortable, which is a weakness against tyranny... they will just turn around and pretend they didn't see it... until they come for them, too.
Looking for one suit of armour, size medium, a shield, and lot of weed
"I don't fight fascists because I think I'll win, I fight fascists because they are fascists." -Chris Hedges
89,000.000+ people who were eligible to vote didn't in 2024. It's incomprehensible to me.
I’m sickened at how Snyder’s first and foremost principle in On Tyranny, “Do not obey in advance” has been simply trampled by a sycophantic stampede so damn quickly. Zuck, Bezos, Wray…
and more
Well yeah. Everyone dies. Okay, the funny thing is that the Trumpies use this same kind of language.
Ok you first though, my kids need me.
It's a neat formulation, but not all that different to "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" ("Patriots" usually remove "patriots" from that quote. Take from that what you will)
He was my son’s professor and a remarkable writer
He speaks the truth. I don’t believe that I am made of the stuff of heroes though.
You are. You’ve just never had to before.
Trump literally said he won't do jack shit about prices in the same breath as praising himself winning on "grocery prices." He is deeply unserious and only out for himself. The rest is just handed straight to the Heritage Foundation. Find their anonymous donors and this charade is exposed.
Yep. Them & the Federalist Society, military contractors & weapons manufacturers(who profit regardless of the president), the biggest polluters & exploiters, conartists, corporations, techno-fuedalists etc.
Carbon whores
Don't overlook the contributions of America First. As far as winning, he has long believed that you claim that, no matter what.
Yet you encourage self segregation, remove the rights from the women's movement, and remove all civil rights from those that have been fighting for it for more than a century. YOU sir, WITH YOUR WORDS ENCOURAGING CIVIL UNREST, AND VIOLENCE. Typical DRAMATIC double standard hypocritical victim.
We libs better start stockpiling weapons as fast as we can before Trump starts taking away our rights to own them.
I have no idea, what will trigger it, but it will happen. I have the feeling, it won't start before 5-6 to 8 years. Before people start to feel it in their skin. By then the USA will be gone and a lot of good people too.
His cabinet will include the Project 2025 writers and planners. His unqualified nominees will get confirmed. His voters think it is not something that will affect them particularly. If that doesn't wake up everyone to fight for survival, nothing will.
I still don’t understand how the existential threats we are now facing are still being downplayed and ignored. As though our current laws will be upheld. It’s dangerous to know that 1 in every 3 people we see on the street could not have been trusted with the knowledge of where Anne Frank was hiding
People I know are more inclined to die for freedom than kill for it. I think we can’t even talk about a physical rebellion.
Tim is a frikkin angel.
New lamps for old be better #sixwords #vss
Very few of us Americans are ready to dye for freedom. Tyranny will rule eventually.
My gut says more are ready to die than ready to kill for it
Too many Democrats are willing to die for their beliefs, while most Republicans are willing to kill for their beliefs. I learned this on May 4, 1970.
😭 Four died in O HI O 🤬
I was radicalized by this, and the Jackson State murders soon thereafter.
Sadly many people have given up.
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I'm ready because no one's going to shut me up after speaking my mind all my life! 🤬
Ummm, I’m not prepared to die under tyranny…so, I guess I’m going to choose the former.
And he is right.
I’m just sad. For real. It was almost a beautiful happy joyous ending. But no. Shit is what we got and I’m sad 😢
We only need to consider the Syrian rebels or the South Korean uprising that stopped the recent coup attempt to understand this. Some have already considered and decided that capitulating is a better way to go. They have announced publicly for their audience of one. Some of have truly shocked me.
Or Randomly Just get Killed Anyway... Unfortunately
Well, there’s ‘freedom’ and then there’s what MAGAs call ‘freedom.’ Kinda like the difference between ‘patriot’ and ‘MAGA patriot.‘
Yes, but we'll still have our remotes!
I want a better world for my kids. I'm not afraid to die fighting for it.
I'm really getting sick to my stomach with all the complacent thought when our country is facing the biggest threat in our history of existence as the USA. WTF is wrong? I really would rather die than be owned!
and literally why I got armed in 2016. Anyone ever watch or read 1984??? JFC we're right in the middle of it.
I was the FIRST carry permit in Fla after his 'win' was announced in 16.
Great book. Every high school student in America should have to read it before getting their diploma.
Isn't freedom just another word for "nothing left to lose"?😉
I don't want to live under this oppressive incoming administration from hell. I would rather go down fighting for what I believe in.
Same. Absolutely, resolutely same.
We have to ask ourselves, “what’s our red line?” At what point is it time to fight? Arresting political opponents? National abortion ban? Military leadership purges? Gay marriage ban? Something else? Striking first will just make him stronger through increase in public sympathy, so when is the time?
You see what's happening in Georgia? Or what's about to pop off in Belarus? Take to the streets, protest, BE LOUD. now is always better than too late. DEMAND S14 be invoked. The next few weeks is quite literally the LAST CHANCE anyone's gonna have before his coronation. Don't fuck it up, America.
Well worth the read!!!
Unfortunately, this IS where we are.
Our Veteran heroes of wars past would be appalled at MAGA & CONVICTED FELON-ADJUDICATED RAPIST-DRAFT DODGER-ANTI-VETERAN
Many veterans gleefully voted for Trump. Treasonous cucks.
They did. And, 4.5 out of 10, didn’t.
Wow that low of a number didn’t?
You & I didn’t……
Thank goodness for the honorable ones.
Yep. Swallowed the FAUX NEWS & MAGA LIES WHOLE. They FA & are going to FO starting 1/20/25.
I’m a vet and I sure as hell didn’t vote for Cheeto Jim Jones.
I take it literally and completely literally agree.
The Irish came and fought a civil war on behalf of rich overlords who lived to enslave people of color. Rape their women, take their teeth, take their children. The rich paid $300 to skip the draft. Their descendants still feel entitled. Without accountability, we get: the #tyranny of mediocrity.
reading that one right now
I don’t admire or worship politicians or celebrities. I do have undying admiration for Virginia Hall. That should be the bar today.
Truth!
Well said.
Hell I'll go on the front line. At 70? What have I to lose?
Everyone who cares about democracy and freedom should read that book. George Orwell's 1984 too, though it's not quite as accessible. On Tyranny puts everything in a succinct, easy to grasp format.
Oh it’s literal
They’ve made us too reliant to be defiant and thus helplessly compliant.
We’ve got to (or at least enough of us) be willing to lose everything; every-thing.
I hear you Jack. I feel your deep frustration and I know Quixotic quests can be romantic to muse about. But a review of Machiavelli’s Prince and Sun Tsu’s Art of War may provide perspective of the power structure arrayed against us.
tall order sarge....
His little books are genius. $14.99 and I bought 2 to loan to friends.
I'm kinda right here also!
Not a game, not a joke
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m immortal, and I have proof.
Imminent death means that a person's health is declining irreversibly and they are likely to die within hours, days, or weeks. It's also known as "actively dying" or "entering the terminal phase". I would rather learn from history before charging into death and change systems from within.
Fear phobia aside. Do you really think normal citizens can do something with the modern technology and those who hold weapons of mass destruction?
It will be a guerrilla war. Individuals and small cells fighting back in pointed ways. I don’t see riots or big demonstrations this time. It wasn’t effective last time. But there are enough people with nothing to lose, those people will act. Some of us Boomers will go out with a bang.
He is correct.
The people who are willing to die for their cause are on the other team.
An absolute must read.
I took that oath 47 years ago, nothing has changed.
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Bingo..
History will play this headline: Insurance company CEO was the first to fall in the revolution.
Snyder is someone to listen to. He really has a handle on dealing with a dictatorship.
“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.” Patton make the others die
The most gratifying thing to me has been watching people from other countries learn about the American Healthcare system for the 1st time. It’s like they walked in on America beating its wife. And the news is America’s drinking buddy, saying, “You don’t understand, she was being a bitch!”
I've been saying for 8 years that watching what's going on in the US is like watching someone I love stay with an abusive partner. It's so painful to watch, I can't imagine what hell it must be to live in. Some Americans think it's the most free country in the world. They need to travel more.
That costs 💰
True. 😪
Exactly. I thought when my abusive partner died I would, at last, have some peace. Jokes on me. This is actually worse.
I was married to a narcissist. I escaped in 2009, only to have to deal with the king of narcissists and his narcissistic sycophants.
If Musk is able to follow through on his scheme to crash the economy in order to devalue the dollar, then we will see global chaos and all my sources of income could disappear in a heartbeat. I'm older and lived through protests from the 60's. I will stand against tyranny. We are safer in numbers
That number is now 1. Self preservation demands resistance.
Self preservation does demand resistance. Every cent people have in savings will be at risk, business will fold, jobs lost. Less certain about the stock market, but the point is that all of that could evaporate in an instant. Can you imagine if the majority of the country is suddenly destitute?
Can you explain why devaluing affects savings and if anything can be done in advance to safeguard savings?
All the money in your bank accounts are based on the dollar. If the dollar is devalued, it becomes worthless. The scene in "It's A Wonderful Life" (old Christmas movie) where rich Mr. Potter will pay people pennies on the dollar for their savings so that he can take over the bank describes it well.
The Heritage Foundation wants to create the same kind of economy without safeguards that led to the stock market crash of 1929 and the Great Depression. But the global economy is based on the dollar, so this will be worse because the entire world will be in chaos.
Some people are trying to stock up on necessities right now, but there's not much you can do if everything crashes. The best thing to do is to get your congressional representatives and your state and local representatives to stand up for the country and prevent it from happening. Get loud now.
And the ultra wealthy can weather the depression. And then they buy everything up n the cheap?
I'm sure that's what they're thinking. They don't care what damage they cause for us as long as they can consolidate their power and control.
Just cut off the ATMs and see how long everyone remains calm.
Cash would already be worthless. Run on banks…..pointless.
That will definitely happen if Musk is able to crash the economy. How will they lie their way through that?
They may not need to lie much; just say they are in charge and cleaning up what the nasty Dems left behind. It's not like they have to justify their actions to their supporters. They get the support anyway.
That's been their playbook for sure. But if people suddenly don't have access to money, that might not work as well. I read years ago that they were warned about the ever-increasing tyranny, because people will only take so much. If MAGA ever turns against them, it will get violent.
So far people haven't had to absorb any tyranny. It might be educational to watch how much they will absorb before turning against the power in place, but I'm not that interested in what it may take to do that. I will be in survival mode.
We have 5x more citizens incarcerated than the rest of the world combined. Fascism has been fully absorbed over the last 60 years. You can be put in prison for life without a criminal complaint. Today. Because something was “discovered” in your vehicle. That’s a good thing right?
You make several assertions and then ask me if I think "that" is a good thing? You want singular in a plural world?
I expect insider trading to be rampant for the unjust enrichment and graduation of mere millionaires from 1.0 to billionaire [with a cut from 100% of the gtifts for the rapist-in-chief] oligarchs in 2.0!
I did too. Marched on Washington. Rooftop police had rifles pointed at us. I was young, idealistic & strong then. I would probably trip, fall & get trampled if I tried to do it again now.
I’ve actually seriously contemplated going out to protest knowing violence might occur. It’s worth the risk for my grandchildren.
Without leadership and failure of politics, i guess it's the only way.
We can’t let the electors certify
Great Read and a Must Read!! 💙💙💙
The French knew... It wasn't about being prepared to die... It was about making sure the tyrants did.
🤔😁😂 #Followed
🥂 to literally, literally
He's speaking truth, which is why everyone should be prepared to man the barricades if and when the time arrives.
And it’s coming Once again, the post covid excuses are wearing thing. Too expensive, everything is too expensive Let us move on, oh wait You’ve elected a billionaire, rapist, felon. 🇨🇦🇺🇦✌️
Huh? What's coming?
☠️ Death or Freedom only two choices left now!
BRING IT! I'm salivating.
The F’ing Grifter is a demented, stupid, mentally sick, psychotic cretin. Our best outcome is that he and his flawed, criminal, misfit accomplices are incapable of cohesive action. We must band together to create chaos, mayhem, and throw sand in the gears at every opportunity.
The problem is it’s not just the one grifter. It’s the entire Republican party. The GOP has decided on the avenue as what they like. That they are willing to see the whole countries systems torn apart for fun and their profit.
DON'T DIE - Bryan Johnson
Everyone should read that book.
Fight like banshees.
That’s why we need to be protesting this incoming shit show now. The American people need to unite against these billionaire motherfuckers. They want to keep us distracted fighting culture wars so we don’t fight them.
Exactly
Что делать ? 🤔
That is the overall fear !!
Biden has immunity. With it he needs to suspend part of the Constitution, arrest Federalists on SCOTUS, The entire incoming administration, and DENATIONALIZE them by presidential order. He then sends them to Gitmo with no permission to communicate with anybody for 8 years.
Lincoln suspended and ignored parts of the Constitution to win the Civil War. Emancipation Proclamation was totally unconstitutional as was suspension of Habeas Corpus. Biden must do the same or the Union is lost.
Well said
I think a former Commander of mine in the military threw that line out once 🤨
Unfortunately, he is speaking literally. So is anyone willing to die?
What a society permits, it promotes.
It will never be true again that no one is above the law. Money is and those that have it.