"Dr. Oz" says Medicare is rolling out a six-year pilot...WISeR...using AI to pre-approve care in six states. The goal, states Oz...is cost control...but critics warn this undercuts Original Medicare’s key promise: easy access. If AI denies care...who’s really in charge?
Is that why they tried to sneak the language about not regulating AI for 10 years into their budget plan?
I would call it cut and kill. Oz is an asshat, like the dork who hired him. How much will he grift from this nuttery? Nobody believes he will only make his salary in this job when he's used to million$. #Corruption
Why do I think Dr. Snakeoil will program in a bias towards denial of care/medication/treatment/reimbursement?
Medicare covers everything-or at least it did until Oz because the disabled and the elderly have a multitude of health issues and zero time to ‘try out 6 different non-working drugs’ before they get the actual care they need.
Also, how do you appeal? Back to AI or would a person have to get involved
Bad idea, next we will all have biochips installed, thats when AI takes over.
As a medical coder, AI is already denying care. I appeal things all day long that should be paid. The replies half the time do not even make sense or address the appealed code. There are no regulations to stop them or hold them accountable so it goes unaddressed with zero consequences.
No complaint department.
My guess is the objective is to push people into advantage plans because w/ the medicare we currently can't rely on makes it harder for ins. companies to offer advantage plans. More bodies from 6 states. Wonder how those states were chosen?
Private TECH Companies share in the savings? WTF?
As we are seeing across the cabinet and in many departments, this administration believes that some Americans are completely expendable. It could get very ugly very quickly.
Am betting that they will target Blue States to implement this
Death panels
AI in charge? Wasn't there a health insurance company that tried that? Also, didn't he have an unfortunate meeting with Luigi?
I imagine who’s really in charge will be the people running the AI.
People use tech to cheat people It's the fault of those abusing people
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You missed the best part Jack. The AI company gets paid extra for every claim that is DENIED! They will get rich off the death and pain of seniors!
You’ve perfectly described the Medicare Advantage program.
The Large Language Models with all the errors humans are prone to. What Could Go Wrong!🙄
Trump is out there saying your renewable energy stops working if it's night (solar) or a calm day (wind), so what if we spread the word that AI stops working if someone pulls the plug on the server farms?
I love that idea. Let’s do it
Great idea.
Someone who works in IT for a health insurance company, informed me that they use AI and for the most part it just denies, denies claims.
And the companies running this GET A CUT OF THE MONEY THEY SAVE BY DENYING CARE.
and the prices are not going down for the consumers and jobs are lost... but, yeah, the propaganda machine uses the keyphrase "cost cuts" 20x per day, as prescribed by the regime...
Waste, fraud, and abuse is a favorite MAGA Congressperson's phrase. And Trump and enablers are doing all 3.
👆 That’s Because “Health” Insurance is a Pyramid Scheme
There it is ☝️
AI gave me a cleaning recipe mixing peroxide and vinegar. That is toxic, and I see people mixing them in homemade cleaning products all the time. AI is only as safe as the people who program it.
IA denial can be attributed to the program input parameters for health services and the end user not understanding IA. There is no easy access for seniors.
Washington state is included in this “experiment” … pray for our most vulnerable please. (My daughter included)
Ignore the little man behind the curtain
Cost control for the poor only
AI death panels?
Stop paying taxes!
First, Oz knows better. Any credibility he had left he'll be shredding. Secondly, Medicare Advantage should be illegal.
It really is to divert $$ to the AI company and it's share holders by denying care, the AI company gets a cut of every claim it denies. (I bet Dr OZ is/or will be a major shareholder and profit)
AI death panels by another name.
Everything is so fucked up!
Whoever programmed it to deny, that's who.
Heck with all of this. I’m going to go on drugs, lots of them, and live out my probably much shortened years oblivious and pain free 🤣🤷♀️🤪
I hope he OD's on his own supplements!
It’s bad enough when your own dr. has to go through hoops to get people the care you require. 😢
I know on you tube last night Elon has a couple videos. He was sol man and said he said that life will change forever in Sept. talked about banks & stocking up. Sounds like it’s time to cash out and put money into a safe. He asked his kids if they’d want to go and be ready at a moments noticecreepy
Not humans, it may even be better, real humans get a bonus to deny a PAN, you can manipulate a person.IA not so much . IA must cross reference a hcpc code to a DX code, if you have this, you can get this. ex. To qualify for a glucose meter you must have a diagnoses of diabetes mellitus type I or II.
FYI - PAN stands for Prior Authorization Number. HCPC is a code assigned to every type of service or device. DX stands for diagnoses. ICD9
OZ is as ignorant as RFK. He’s a kook and conspiracy theorist nut.
What could possibly go wrong?
What I wanna know is "who's responsible when it goes wrong?"
So potential life safe measures will be determined by a machine v an actual physician.
Show Oz some compassion. Put him out of his misery…
AI DEATH PANELS? HELL NOOOOOOOOOOO! Kill AI Before AI Kills U #RESIST
Isn't this why the United Healthcare dude got taken out?
Yes, but he was quickly replaced and forgotten about by United Healthcare. They never cared and never will.
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Also "Dr Oz"... "Medical care denied? Buy my miracle in a bottle. It's totally useless but I will make big bucks selling it to gullible people like you! Enter Magasux at checkout and receive free shipping on orders of over $500".
Which states? They better be red ones!
When these plans are finally implemented and people recognize the existential threat is when I predict a big ole rise in violence.
Do we know which states?
And coupled with all of the personal data they just stole....
This is probably why Brian Thompson is dead now... UnitedHealthcare uses AI to deny more than half of its claims. Paying a premium just to be denied is the largest healthcare scam ever presented!! Oz is in it for the corporations to suck more of our hard on tax dollars and income...
Supposedly they are not using this anymore which happened before CEO was removed permanently!
The oligarchs are in charge.
How about if we transfer all the member of Congress to the basic Medicare coverage as a pilot group to see how well they like it?
Computer says no... www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YG...
I was told single payer system would involve death panels, now the MAGA version is hurtling towards Logans Run healthcare
Their goal is to dismantle Medicare. They will go after Social Security next. George Carlin was correct all those years ago. The owners of this country want it ALL.
The damn insurance companies
This is a disaster in the making.
“Do no harm” does not mix well with capitalism.
“Cost Control” equals maximum denial/minimum payout. Capitalism demands nothing less.
I had a very much over long wrestling match with my bank’s AI just trying to ascertain that they would be mailing my debit card to my new address. God help the people who will fight with it for healthcare. 😔
I remember something similar done by an health insurance provider. And also, I remember the consequences....
And the tech bros are paid more when claims are denied.
AI is the Death Panel that Sarah “Dumbass” Palin was screeching about.
RFK Jr’s Department of Health to be renamed Department of Death
Ass unicorns with rainbows
Elon?
Oz should consider going there.
Sounds like a version of Medicare Advantage which no Senior should even consider! That’s why I won’t renew my AARP MEMBERSHIP. They’re pushing this bull shit!
The goal is to eliminate all empathy
People like Thiel are imagining a polite, courteous and cold-bloodedly efficient "superior" society without empathy.
Send Thiel to Uganda.
One would think that preventive services save money, but seems like that is not the case for “them”
My bigger concern is the monetary reward for denying claims under the guise of “sharing in savings”.
I'm in my early 70s and relatively healthy,yet in the past three years, I've been affected by TWO of the ailments on this list. If you've ever torn your meniscus and been sent home to "heal", you know a pain that will shorted your life. Glad to see my state is not on the list.
I thought UHC was using some AI to deny Healthcare to its customers, hence their CEO was killed for it. Or did I read something wrong at some point?
Medicare Advantage. You know, fake Medicare… since Medicare isn’t involved at all, it is run by your insurance company, not the govt. That’s what they were fucking around with
They did but they stopped using this practice because of the outrage.
Ok thanx. Thought I read something the wrong way. It is a damn outrage. 😡😡😡
It's a violation of HIPAA. AI keeps all data it's given and unless they have written permission from every individual to release their personal health information to AI they can't do it. HIPAA is the only data rights we have.
We are F every way the next four years with this so call adm 💩💩💩💩💩
Remove empathetic humans from the approval process. Deny everyone
You just had to go full United, didn't you?
No one ever called people who decided whether something should be “ prior authorized” empathetic! Ever!
Denying care should be considered fraud not “cost control”
I’m rolling out a six year pilot…FUCu…everytime medicare denies a claim for my father, I put one in the head of a repubtard responsible, including the has been, never made it as doctor, for obvious reasons, oz
Is there ANYTHING they aren't fucking breaking? Anything at all?
Oz is a phony and this is bullshit.
I have a serious question. I have read that Medicare advantage programs cost the government a lot more money, so why the focus on cost savings in original Medicare? I would appreciate a thoughtful answer on this.
The real question is, who trains the AI, and is maximizing profit it's overarching goal? Luke 6:24-25 (KJV) But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Isn't this the same model United Health Care was using and it was denying claims at some ridiculously high %?
That's Dr. Ozhole to you...
Terminator 8: Death Panels
It's a sausage machine, and who needs casings anyway?
Nice.
I had to look that up, yikes! 🎯
The point of using AI to deny care is so that no HUMAN can be held accountable for what is happening They want us working for their profit And when we can't do it they want us deadj And they will do ANYTHING to avoid responsibility for it.
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An important read…Doctor are calling out the AI denial shit as well…overwhelmingly, doctors are NOT for it👇 www.ama-assn.org/practice-man...
They are hellbent on eliminating the Social Security program and funneling that money into the oligarchy by a yet to be determined process. Millions will be destitute and many will die. But this is what the MAGA morons put in office.
I'm telling you right now, this will make it harder for POC to get healthcare. Because AI is only as good as the code on which it is written. There will be bias written into the code.
MAGA way to whittle down the senior numbers. 😢
Yet another lying POS in this regime And how much money did you take from Medicare patients OZ???? Shame on you!
I can picture an AI hallucination spiral loop real fast with regard to rather esoteric searches.
Sounds like an automated death panel to me.
20 year old programmers......and that's unacceptable
Which states ?
These states are New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, and Washington.
Fkin AZ. Might as well Web MD and assume we are all dying of cancer.
This makes the governor race in NJ even more important
WA Stare or WA DC?
DC is not a state
Of course they target Washington.
Dammit. Washington here.
Damn it, Arizonian here.
Texas here. We are so screwed. 🤦♀️
Washington?!!? Damn!
My mother and her twin sister are 79 and on Medicare here in Joklahoma. They deserve great care. Pi$$ed.
Joklahoma 😂
Joklahoma is near Floriduh.
What??
Thanks, it will help me focus on the front line.
Oklahoma here! Death panel, anyone?
Oz don’t give a shit
This is not about health care this is about making AI creators richer off the backs of the vulnerable. The elderly will not benefit from this
It’s all so Billionaires can make $ with their stupid AI that they’re shoving down our throats 24/7.
I have doubts about the legality of that as well since in most cases AI doesn't have personhood and can not be sued, therefore the humans must make the decisions for accountability
They are attempting to turn Medicare over to private insurance companies! This just increases the need to hunt down and …. more fucking health care CEOs in the streets! I have supplemental! I pay for insurance to pay for what medicare doesn’t! I have full control of my health nor referrals required!
United Health care then pays what medicare doesn’t after deductibles! “Advantage” The government pays private insurance around $ 14,000 a year for your premiums! You now deal directly with your insurance company medicare is out it! They choose what they cover and deny its the business plan to profit
a goddamn fucking scam. What they’re trying to do is do away with the type of Medicare I have, supplemental. I have no insurance companies making decisions on my healthcare. I go where I want! They want insurance CEO making decisions! U fuck this up people and you’re gonna fucking live to regret it.
I agree
I have been trying to warn people of the WISeR method on BlueSky and no one is listening. Wake up people on Medicare. You are going to be faced with denials, denials and denials. These AI companies will get monetary rewards for denying YOUR necessary healthcare.
This is the death panel republicans said would happen with Obamacare. They always project their actions on to others.
Isn’t this like the “death panels“ republicans were so opposed to?
This guy.
I'm a visiting nurse and it would take a part of my visit when I'd walk in with patients watching Dr. Oz to explain his real name to just be Dr. Boo and he usee fear. And about the stupidest stuff. amazed me.
Humans cannot be replaced by AI when the job is caring for humans. They are not Toyota's where every screw goes into arm A fitted to bolt B. They are complex, physically, mentally and physiologically. Lawsuit out on UHC for this practice already.
Anything AI right now is stupid...
If the goal was saving money, they would get rid of Medicare Advantage. Oz was a spokesperson for Medicare Advantage. The Trump tax cuts give investors the cash to privatize everything and suck us dry.
