A premise that was/is unimaginable of the Labour Party. Although I am not sure this is the case, a lot of questions need to be asked. It may be a matter of time before the affiliated Unions withdraw their financial and political support.
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There's a huge huge majority of people who have simply been disenfranchised, going from far left Corbynites right through to right of centre Cameronistas. It's as if violent white Essex men are the only people who have the vote.
sep 1, 2025, 6:21 am • 2 2 • view
Good point, clearly they are the section of the electorate who the media & Farage are very focussed on right now.
sep 1, 2025, 6:23 am • 0 0 • view
Who isn't focused on them? Actually I'll answer my own question, the Lib Dems and the Greens. God knows Labour and the Tories are falling over themselves to kiss racist arse. And the media (especially the BBC) is being even more accommodating to the far right.
sep 1, 2025, 6:30 am • 3 0 • view
"Going from the just left of centre supporters of Jeremy and Zarah, to the classic Tory right. But otherwise yes you are correct, only the extremists are getting media attention and support.
sep 1, 2025, 8:36 am • 2 0 • view
Fair enough. Corbyn is quite far left for the UK but probably a centrist for much of Europe.
sep 1, 2025, 11:17 am • 1 0 • view
Corbyn was never far left IMO. He represented what the Labour Party used to be & should still be. The only reason some perceive him as being far left is because 'new' Labour has shifted the party so much to the right - leaving left-leaning voters with no viable representation.
sep 1, 2025, 2:46 pm • 3 0 • view
I agree with most of that, I think he is too far left for this country (and I should have qualified that as England in an earlier post) which is why he was extremely unlikely to get to no.10. The old Labour Party hadn't won since the early 70s. The English are largely Conservative by nature. Sadly.
sep 1, 2025, 3:20 pm • 2 0 • view
Which was documented by Orwell in The Lion and the Unicorn. The problem the left have in this country is unity.
sep 1, 2025, 3:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes, pure greed is a simple concept which easily unifies people (even if they're reluctant to admit that's their impetus). Helping people is far more complex hence disunity.
sep 1, 2025, 3:51 pm • 3 0 • view
There are too many contenders fracturing the left vote. Statistically, the UK has voted for the left for decades, but because that vote's been divided into different parties, the Tories keep winning the first past the post race. We need proportional representation to prevent Jo Swinson type fiascos.
sep 1, 2025, 4:08 pm • 1 0 • view
The UK, but not the English. Which Parties has the left split into? I guess the Greens but the Lib Dems were middle. In any event it's the right that's spilt now: Farage, Tories and I hate to say it, Labour. And it looks like the English will be going for the furthest right, having learnt nothing
sep 2, 2025, 5:51 am • 1 0 • view
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. It used to be true, but as the old & wrinklies die out, I think the generation replacing them is much more politically diverse. Although I'm aware that some of my generation follow their parents' influence as 'tradition', many don't. The tide's turning.
sep 1, 2025, 3:44 pm • 2 0 • view
Yes, I welcome diversity but they seem to be becoming more diverse in that they're shifting to the far right. That I do not welcome. What I don't see is a shift to the left. Wish I did.
sep 1, 2025, 3:59 pm • 1 0 • view
Ignorance, greed & apathy. Far too many will happily walk into the trap & stay in it if it seems comfortable & the poison's slow acting enough for them to believe they might escape its effects. Far too many need a good swift kick up the arse.
sep 1, 2025, 4:16 pm • 1 0 • view
Americans fought bravely in WW2 but, besides Pearl Harbor, they didn't suffer heavy homeland bombings so perhaps they have some tiny excuse for not understanding the hell programs of hate cause. And how the programs work. The people of the UK have no excuse. Reform supporters are a fucking disgrace.
sep 2, 2025, 5:42 am • 0 0 • view
All my (grown up) children were / are very favourable to Corbyn.
sep 1, 2025, 3:46 pm • 1 0 • view
Many thought he'd be able to bring common sense to government. Sadly, those wanting to keep the status quo chose to sabotage/smear him. My parents (mid 80s) think I'm 'radical' for criticizing Tories, but my views are mainstream. Internet ensures the public no longer has to rely on biased media.
sep 1, 2025, 3:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Interesting way of saying that the UK is shifted to the extremist right.
sep 1, 2025, 3:19 pm • 0 0 • view
It has, and so have many countries. People are being manipulated to shift further and further right. What's particularly frustrating is we've all learnt about the exact same historical tactics and we know how it ends. And yet.
sep 1, 2025, 3:47 pm • 1 0 • view