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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

Now that we've all said our jokey-jokes and made threats about burning flags just to irk a bloated octogenarian wannabe dictator, let's take a look at what this dumbshit executive order actually says, and let me tell you why it is nothing but old man farting sound and fury.

aug 26, 2025, 4:41 pm • 40 10

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Just Frank @oldfrank999.bsky.social

The White House. Protecting the burning of America

aug 27, 2025, 1:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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jdc1954.bsky.social @jdc1954.bsky.social

With Trump, everything is a show.

aug 27, 2025, 1:27 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

The order actually says that the AG is to prioritize enforcement of civil and criminal laws against flag burners when they ALSO violate applicable, content-neutral laws that cause harm "unrelated to expression." In other words, exactly what Johnson said you could do. www.uscourts.gov/about-federa...

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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

If you steal a flag to burn, you can be prosecuted for stealing the flag that you burned. If your flag burning lights a building on fire, you're catching an arson charge (and probably civil liability to boot). The point is, if you violate another law while flag burning, Johnson doesn't save you.

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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

All Johnson protects is the symbolic act of flag burning itself. The government is still free to regulate the time, place, and manner at which you can set things on fire, even if that firebuggery is expressive. Because those are CONTENT-NEUTRAL regulations.

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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

Section 2(b) of the order says just that: if the DOJ finds that an instance of flag burning violated state or local regulations, then the DOJ is to refer the matter to the appropriate authority. Again, perfectly consistent with existing DOJ power (if a bit waste-of-timey).

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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

Section 2(d) is more troubling, because it relates to the denial or revocation of immigration documents for merely engaging in expressive conduct. Yes, the First Amendment applies to foreigners and those here on visas. I'd suggest someone read Reno v. Am-Arab Discrim. Committee, probably twice.

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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

In other words, the executive order doesn't do shit, directs the DOJ to do the things it could already do, and in general is a big showy bit of cockery that no one ought to pay any real attention to, except to burn a flag (that you legally purchased) in a manner consistent with local regulations.

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Lane Stellmaker @hipcrimevocab.net

For no other reason that it will make Donald Trump and his supporters v v buttmad, and that's always a positive good.

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Denys Beecher @dbeecher.bsky.social

A concept the right seemed determined to ignore when Tarrio was convicted. "So it's illegal to burn a BLM flag, but not a US flag?" He stole the flag and then burned it! It was regular old malicious mischief.

aug 26, 2025, 4:46 pm • 3 0 • view
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John @thepainter1.bsky.social

So it's not worth the paper it's written on

aug 27, 2025, 12:38 pm • 0 0 • view