The marines are still a volunteer force and 700 chose to be deployed to Los Angeles. Every single one of them made a choice and sided with the Trump regime. That’s the most significant part of their deployment to a US city to counter US citizens.
The marines are still a volunteer force and 700 chose to be deployed to Los Angeles. Every single one of them made a choice and sided with the Trump regime. That’s the most significant part of their deployment to a US city to counter US citizens.
That's wrong and disrespectful and betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of how the military works.
They wear the uniforms we paid for and carry the weapons we paid for to shoot at us and threaten us?. Fuck the USMC!!
#FAFO for them now 🙄😢
That’s not how deployment works- and I’m kinda surprised to see you repeating something so untrue. No one “chooses” to deploy- they are deployed. They have to follow all lawful orders- Enlisted folks are the troops but it’s brass that gives the orders. Ask why the Marine Brass arent speaking up
Sorry, but that's wrong. Joining the Marines is a voluntary process, but they don't get to choose where they are deployed once they are a Marine. Law prevents them from being deployed against US citizens, but TRUMP is breaking the law by deploying them to CA. The MARINES are just following orders.
Thats not how the military works. They got orders to go to federal buildings, unfortunately, that is a legal loophole the government is using through posse comitatus and they cannot disobey those orders. I'm sure they don't want to be there, and are actively doing their best not to break any laws.
And on top of that, the way we are treating these soldiers and marines who are being used and can't just walk away is downright disgusting. People are quick to say that they would rather go to prison but this is not that cut and dry. These service members have families back home,
Many are their only source of income in the family. They are being given orders to defend federal buildings, which, while unprecedented, are legal orders they cannot disobey. I promise you the second someone tries to tell them to kill fellow Americans they will not comply. But as of now,
They are simply doing their job and are just as pissed off they have to be there as all of you are. If you dont know how the military system works then you should not be judging these service members who swore to protect you. I promise they are doing their best to follow their oaths,
But this situation is incredibly tricky and difficult to manuver as a service member.
I hope that’s true but those clips of troops cheering Trump on are certainly doing the job he intended them to—inciting a lot of feelings of betrayal and rage:( everything about this is manufactured and dangerous.
At the end of the day the military is a vast and dynamic place with a healthy mix of republicans and democrats. Trumps only going to show videos of troops cheering him on to manufacture the response you have.
Tell it to the Hague
Wow ur so edgy and cool
Being paid so little that many require food stamps to support their families. Many are not us citizens that can be deported for not following orders. One of ways some immigrants have got there citizenship is to serve in the armed forces.
This! Protest peacefully and do not engage or abuse the military folks. Carry an American flag and display it proudly. Without violence these folks will have a hard time believing an order to be lawful if they don’t witness the violence. Trump needs violence. Move back and away from agitators.
You know who else was "just following orders"?
All I'm saying is right now they haven't done anything illegal, they haven't harmed civilians, and they haven't followed illegal orders. If they do, by all means look down upon them, but as of now they are being used as political props, turn your ire to the man whos using them instead.
I've been told they volunteer to be deployed as national guard but they don't get to choose where to go or why. They can only make the decision of not following an unlawful order and risk being disciplined by the dictator.
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I think we need to be careful about imputing these motives to the people who enlist in US armed forces. They are being used as props and accelerants for violence by a President with narcissistic personality disorder. I believe almost all will not obey unconstitutional orders to harm fellow citizens.
And thus begins the fall of what was once the mightiest military force on the planet. For honor? Bullshit there is no honor in what is happening. For love of god & country? Also bullshit no true religion approves of this madness & no true patriot wants their country dismantled and sold for parts.
A volunteer army means they’re not drafted, not that there is no chain of command. All these bloody illiterate seppos commenting…
I mean imagine if marines could choose what assignments they decline or accept. I don’t know the military well but I just wasn’t taught that they get to make these decisions
I think it’s to protect federal buildings and there is precedent for that.
These treasonous beasts MUST be court martialed
I respectfully disagree, and this is inflammatory. They were ordered and they have been trained to follow orders. If they are ordered to fire on U.S. citizens, which I’m not sure we are at that stage yet, it will require them to disobey. JMO
We still have--per the U.S. Constitution--a civilian-led military. If Marines are deployed to Los Angeles or to D.C. for the "parade," then that is on every voting, taxpaying American. Shady Speaker Mike Johnson and every elected representative and senator should hear from every constituent daily.
Like any military let loose on the streets (refer Northern Ireland) they will kill
So much for that oath
Shame on them☹️
I know for a fact that 100% of armed forces do not support him, and then we the people will outnumber the ones that do. Not sure where those numbers are. 700 is rookie numbers, though, fascists.
Once you volunteer you have extremely few choices until the end of your contract. What we can hope is that they honor their oaths of enlistment and refuse to obey illegal orders. There is however the precedent of the 101 ABD obeying Ikes undoubtedly for them extremely unpopular orders 1957....
This is untrue. Stop.
Is it possible they get bored, and wanted to get out of the house for a while? Seriously, showing up doesn't mean they were delighted with the idea of attacking their fellow citizens.
Well, that answers the question of what the military will do.
Every single one of them should face a court martial upon any return to "normal"
Wrong. Being volunteers for enlistment doesn't shirk their responsibility to follow lawful orders. They have NO choice but to follow lawful orders of their superiors. That's what they are doing! Being in the military means your oath is to the constitution, not a politician{s}!
Came here to say this
This guy is trying to ferment an anti military attitude, fucking disgusting
Yeah, that's not how it works. While it's a volunteer force, most of us that joined swore an oath to the Constitution, not a President and definitely not Trump. The soldiers and Marines in LA? They didn't have a choice. They were activated and ordered to go. Put your hate on DJT where it belongs.
Oh no. I was hoping it was just a random group that would respect the law and not obey illegal orders. The regime will provoke or even plant someone in the protest to cause a false flag and deadly response. Add in maga and its a very dangerous situation. Thoughts with all protesters across America.
Proud Boys already on record as stating they will be provocateurs
The ones that choose to go to la and not adhere to our Constitution are racist traitors
Fearmongering with misleading statements like this is doing the enemy's work for them. Fucking stop.
This is not how being a volunteer force works. If you haven't been a marine for a long enough time to resign your commission, you can't refuse to be deployed without facing sanctions...but yeah, I agree that this was a trial balloon to see whether they could do something unconstitutional...
I heard from some reports that they would be assisting ICE with protection. Is this true or just fear mongering?
They deserve to be jailed for deploying against the constitution.
Wrong. You volunteer to uphold and support the constitution of the United States of America. And to follow lawful orders.
If you're a family member of any of the service people deployed there, shame them every chance you get and remind them of their duty.
I think you all should realize what these 18 to 20 year olds have to consider. If you're an officer you can resign. An enlisted person will get totally f**ked if they resist. Don't ask them to do what you won't do. Support those that might resist.
Plus they're 18-20. Their brains are not fully developed. They're still highly susceptible to propaganda, which is why the armed forces set up at highschools.
It’s only voluntary to join once you’re in the military You’re expected to perform the duties that you’re assigned. The test will be whether they honor the constitution or honor Donald Trump.
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Do you mean the National Guard? I don't think that's correct for the Marines. They are our armed forces, they get their orders and go.
The military gives orders. You do not get to say no. The contract we signed when joining make us the property of the military, we are no longer regular citizens. duty to disobey" when the order is clearly illegal or unconstitutional (this is very difficult)
Following orders wont get you fair at the Hague
You have to go where they deploy you. You do not necessarily have to do what they tell you to do because it is clear in the constitution that it is the military to be used against US citizens in the streets of the USA
J’espère que l’on gardera en note le nom de ces 700 trous de culs pour l’avenir!
Incase you are wondering who the military will choose between the constitution and their oath vs following the Trump regime’s whims.
Yeah, I was pretty sure many would simply follow orders. We raise our kids to blindly follow orders from the first day of school. The indoctrination of always following authority leads to people being too afraid to speak up or follow the little voice telling them that this is wrong.
Marines are not used to inflict violence on their Americans. Not to say that they won’t. What they do during the day will keep them awake at night and some will have a change of mind.
Hoping this doesn’t mean they are all MAGA- hopefully some are indifferent and see only $$ signs. But it is important that everyone have integrity while protesting.. know the law. You can protest and speak but absolutely no violence from protesters. Let the videos The story.
I retired 3 years ago after 20 as. Navy Chief. Im wondering if these Marines are being screened for political ideology before deployed?
No doubt they are.
That's incredibly wrong on every level. No, the Marines could not have legally disobeyed an order to go from Point A to Point B.
I never doubted for one second the military would side with Trump.
There is nothing about Marines being used against the very population they draw their ranks from that is honorable, valiant, or deserving of respect. It brings dishonor and discredits the uniform and every member of the Marines is smaller and weaker because of it.
I'd say that depends on how they comport themselves. Don't underestimate them. Semper Fi
Pfff… sure
Great point!
I hope they chose to honor the constitution!
I truly hope they all choose to honor themselves and their service and to be true to their oaths of enlistment.
I would love to see them all turn and side with the protestors, National guard would follow suit and then ICE will run with their tails between their legs.
Call for Action: Need to find a way to share the following with members of the US military, ICE and the members of the National Guards:
One of the best comments I read was that protestors should carry only American flags. The optics could be terrible.
I always respected marines, but if they follow orders to turn on Americans that day will be over.
I trust the marines more than the LAPD tho. So should you.
It’s a trap. Don’t fall for it LA!!
Stop blaming Marines. No, they effectively do not have the option of politely declining to deploy, at least not without life-altering consequences. The ignorance surrounding our military, from people who have never served, is ridiculous.
Are these marines so clueless and un-American as to obey the convicted felons commands to shoot their fellow citizens?
June 14th folks!
They are obeying the orders of the Jan 6 chief insurrectionist, a convicted felon, and newly self-appointed dictator, to target brown people and to "own" California liberals. They are to be at the ready to shoot on sight—yes, this is really happening while the brainwashed Fox News crowd cheers it on
Trump is simply probing to see how much he can get away with and how many USA armed forces will do anything for him. When he's established that he's got enough total control of the military vs. the general population, then he will impose martial law.
It's the commanding officers who should be refusing illegal orders.
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They get to choose their mission? You sure about that?
If a Marine( and some will) decide to disobey the order, they will face court martial and imprisonment. There needs to be channels for those who disobey to get legal advice and support. A group existed in Fayetteville NC, in the early 90s. Not sure if still do. That group helped COs to 1st gulf war
This is not true. They volunteered to join the marines, but they don’t get to pick their deployments. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Wait, volunteer? I’m not in the military but I’m fairly confident they don’t get to decide where they are deployed. They volunteer to sign up initially, but they follow a chain of command in active duty.
And must follow all lawful orders. The order to deploy is lawful. What follows is where things get dicey. Use of military force against US citizens? Clearly unlawful. Time will tell what they do.
Marines follow orders. It is up to the citizens of this country to elect a government responsible and ethical enough to give those Marines lawful orders. We failed.
I was a Marine in the 1980s. You need to make a public apology. Your statement is incorrect.
That is incorrect.
The responses here is why history repeats and repeats and repeats and repeats.
There's paperwork, I am sure, of who deployed. When sane leadership comes around, all of them better be discharged dishonorably
They'll be compensated
This is not accurate. I support your posts and efforts but this is simply not accurate, unless you happen to know that their commanding officer gave them specific direct instructions that this was a volunteer mission only.
The military has a problem with extremism in the ranks. Thats why every DoD civilian & ALL military personnel were required to take training about it. 100% certain SECDRUNK Hegseth got rid of the training requirement
Facts matter: the deployment of both the Marines and the National Guard are an attempt to create a crisis. That said, the individual Marines volunteer to join but they do not decide where they are deployed. And, thus far, there is no evidence that their orders were illegal.
Dumbest fucking post by Anonymous ever.
You don't choose to go. If you're stationed there, you get orders to go. You have no say or option to not go. That's the slight saving grace that some of those troops might do the right thing.
Volunteer force? They're enlisted -- *property* of the U.S. gov't. But, they did have the choice as to whether they would remain loyal to the Constitution or become complicit in a crime.
Then they are in violation of the Constitution and are committing an act of war on the United States of America. They are now valid targets. All enemies foreign and domestic is the oath I swore.
Uniforms and guns attract those of a fascist inclination. Always have throughout history.
Heaven forbid they should see their mother or their sister or their brother on a protest line. What are they gonna do then? Shoot them?
You don’t get to decide where you are deployed. Most of them took their oath before he was president. You don’t get to pick and choose assignments. So no it’s not entirely voluntary.
Your claim misleads.Marines volunteer to enlist.Most enlisted during prior administrations. But they can't pick and choose missions. Battalion cdr responsible to issue legal orders. Obligation cascades through the ranks until ultimately the individual soldier decides whether to pull the trigger.
That’s y we gotta hope x military will b wit us ?!!!!!
SHAME!
Returning from this deployment will not be a Hallmark movie moment of reunification between a war hero and family if these folks act on behalf of Trump against their fellow citizens.
not that I'm defending the US military, abolish the whole thing, but aren't the marines regarded as the dregs or whatever?
They volunteered to be in the Marines. Not where they were stationed or where what deployments they go on. That is very much not voluntary
I figured some of the military would NOT stand up to their oath!
Nope
Although it’s true that they chose to join the Marines, they didn’t get to choose their assignment. Can you imagine having all of those bases to pick from and deciding that 29 Palms, CA is where you want to spend the next 4 years of your life? Look it up on Google maps and you’ll see what I mean.
Remove Donald Joke Tramp. The most hateful thing in America.
It really REALLY sucks that people volunteered for this, but bear in mind there are over 168,000 active duty marines. There are bound to be a few Trumpers in there.
I gave up on my brothers-in-arms when i saw a DCNG medevac helicopter being use to assault protesters during the last time he was in office.
The military is not supposed to choose a political side. Support the constitution, and that’s it. Sadly, we all know that much of the military is MAGA.
Just curious how many of those 700 marines will wear the medal that they will receive (this is a armed conflict or so the idiots leaders of the gop contend). on their uniforms that they fought in a conflict with civilians in the United State.
If you know that their commander asked for and received volunteers only, perhaps ID the commander. Idk when deployments/missions became voluntary in the Marines.
Shouldn't the person in charge have stopped it
They will have volunteered to sign up for the Marines, but they don't get to choose whether they're deployed or where they are sent.
And moreover, all of them will have joined up before Trump became president again, six months ago.
There is a choice while active duty to follow illegal orders
You mean to NOT follow illegal orders
Yeah that’s one of the two options
Merely deploying won't be an illegal order, though. Acting against US citizens would be the big test.
I’ve seen how marines score on tests. Not good
Those soldiers and marines don’t want to be there. They are being used as pawns by a fascist in the White House
This is a wildly irresponsible and inaccurate post - really surprised at you guys for this.
If I were their commander, I would recall every fucking one of them and give them a bad conduct discharge. Kick their asses out. They have violated their oath.
Traitors and terrorists the lot of them. I can't wait till they are in court for thwir human rights violations and they try to pull the I was just following orders line. It didn't save the nazis and I better not save them.
Sad
Article 94 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice says that traitors should be given death. Every single traitorous service member serving Trump should know this. This veteran is sending a gentle reminder of this.
They volunteered to join the marines, they don't choose where they are deployed. This is stupid.
It'll be on their permanent records, but jic - take & safely store timestamped photos.
Therapist me says “yes and”