I like how Brian here rolled through several of the ineffective labour bot defences “who do you want to run the country” and accusing someone of being right wing if they criticise labour… Labour are right wing. Labour are a nasty party and nobody with any morals is voting labour again.
I understand that feeling - it’s what my own heart says - but they will if they don’t see there’s a real alternative.
I’m surrounded by lovely deeply caring and socialist people who continue to cross their fingers for the shift right to reverse and cross fingers good stuff will triumph. I may think they should withdraw support now but they’re not people with no morals. Compromised yes. Frustrated & powerless tho.
Labour have made a few wrong decisions and I am hoping that they have realised their mistakes and we will see some better decisions in future. They must not allow themselves to be influenced by the rhetoric of Farage especially over the media fuelled issue of immigration.
They have blatantly joined in with the fuelling! It’s sickening.
But they have and they are. Enough already!
This guy surely isn’t real mate. He types like a bot. The only people voting labour now are racists and fools.
That’s not true about those who are still trying to support and would vote Labour by any manner of means. And by your rationale every Labour mp is the same. You may disagree with why they do or why they stay in party but you can’t simply write them off like that.
If you vote labour you’re a racist. Plain and simple. You can’t complicate it any more. If you vote labour you’re a racist.
I disagree. People I know and respect are desperately trying to balance the dissonance that is Joe pervading being part of / supporting the party. I’ve resigned as a member but if GE tomorrow my vote would depend largely on options at the moment.
If you keep voting labour when they’re being tinpot Tories you are contributing to the downfall of our country. You are telling labour it is okay to be disgusting. It’s not on.
I get that feeling / thinking. But maybe the reality especially where alternatives may be limited or a fantasy mean it’s less black and white at the ballot box at least
Labour are not disgusting, they are trying, for the most part, to undo the mess the Tories made of the country and are struggling against a media that is Right wing and is supporting the REFORM party which is a danger to the country, they also have to contend with Trump.
Absolute rubbish.
You’re in denial.
Stew I do not believe Labour is perfect, far from it, but many of the members of the Labour Party are genuine in their belief that they want a better Britain and support Labour in the hope they will deliver on this. So the forthcoming conference should prove interesting.
Support with heavy hearts for many I think and for lack of feeling there’s a real alternative - or to keep Reform /Tory out - doesn’t mean they are happy. What will persuade them to rise up and demand better?
Yes. Brian is very obviously part of the problem. It's painfully transparent.
I’m 50/50 on whether he’s real or just a bot. It’s usually easy to tell, but I’m tired today because of all of the racist hate from labour.
I am no longer humouring anyone.
Good. Me neither. I used to want to talk nicely to these people, try and see why they have their opinions. That moment has passed. It’s too late now. There should be no quarter in debate towards people defending the indefensible.