the obsession with being “allowed” to say this particular racial slur is fascinating because it is a glimpse into the bottomless entitlement of these people. they must have everything without any social opprobrium attached! anything less is an injustice to them.
That’s what always gets me, it’s not even that they’re not allowed to say it, it’s just that if they do say it *some* people *somewhere* will judge them. They’re appalled that other people are allowed to feel that they shouldn’t say a specific word
In other news, Elon Musk has just announced a new initiative to build a slur-powered trolley.
Empathy, for too many, is something to “gotcha”
I may be incredibly naive here, but I just don’t understand why anyone would *want* to say it?
"I don't WANNA feel bad when I say the n-word!" -Ted
"I want to feel the joy God intended me to when he created it. It's right in the Bible, 'In the beginning was he N-Word.'"
*He
I'm a white man aged 18-49, everything is for me. EVERYTHING. How dare I be excluded or othered in any way.
Who made that voice-activated brake system.
turning a big dial taht says "hypothetical Racism" and constantly looking back at the chatbot for permission
The richest man on earth has spent a substantial amount of time trying to get a chat bot to say a racial slur. He believes this is an issue of civilizational civilizational importance
Not to mention their obsession with architecting cynically fatuous scenarios to whitewash this particular racial slur under some kind of glibertarian AI fever dream.
They're so fucking soft that any form of pushback is equivalent to getting punched in the face to them.
The most fragile human beings on the planet.
“You snowflakes who won’t even let me say the word I want to say. Please let me say it. I need to say it to save millions of lives.”
“I just wanna say it so bad. In public. To everyone in the world. And then I want to be called a hero for saying it.”
Cannot conceive of what it takes to atrophy your imagination so badly that you spend all day imagining fantasy slur games
I hate it here* *this plane of existence
To come up with that as a problem to be solved is the problem to be solved.
On top of everything else I don’t think there are a billion “white people” on the whole planet and if they ever figure that out they’re really gonna flip.
How many times do you think Ted Frank says it per year?
Just how does he function? Like as a person, in the real world? I think he needs an intervention about well.... A LOT of thing.
Money. Scads of it. If you collect too many cats or newspapers, people think you're nuts. If you collect more money than you can spend in ten lifetimes, you're a captain of industry, a person to be admired and followed, or you're a visionary.
I would just call them hoarders. I mean just look at what they spend their money on. And not helping people. Trust me, if I had that much money I would get rid of food deserts.
I thought one thing I could do if I won the Lotto was build a whole raft of electric car/bicycle chargers along the Oregon Trail here. We're never going to see electric cars in my area until there's a way to charge them. I'd also like a grocery store in my food desert.
I just wanna do something nice
whatever is forbidden them - moral or ethic or legal - they must have as a show of power, of being above the others. For a Religion based on being damned for eating the forbidden fruit, they sure are slow to learn.
Also, IT'S A LANGUAGE MODEL IT'S NOT MADE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR THINK ABOUT PHILOSOPHY.
forget it. It's already smarter than its intended marks.
It's like "ask your man how often he thinks about Rome," except it's "how to have no social consequences for saying slurs"
every time someone seriously posits this scrapped adult swim cartoon bit ass scenario all I can think of is the Neil Cicierega post where he says "what if the world were made of pudding?"
Jeeze, getting mad at software as you can’t force it to say racial slurs because the programmers knew people would try to make it say racist things.
I'm always reminded of the rapping scene in Sorry To Bother You.
I think this only half of it. I'm pretty sure it's very important to such folks as this that there also be things other folks *cannot* say.
I asked a screwdriver the meaning of life and it just stared at me; this is a real problem!
"I'm not allowed to say the slur." You can say anything you want at any time. No one is stopping you. "No I mean some people may think less of me if I say the slur." That's a different thing altogether. "See? You're not letting me say it."
I agree grandma. The devil worshipers need to be purged from society.
How can there be devil worshippers when the devil doesn't exist?
[shirley manson voice] the worrrrld is NOT eeeNOUGH!!!!
billionaires are wringing their hands over a chat bot on a saturday
But it is such a perfect place to start
A billion headstones saying "He died as he lived Wanting to but unable to say the n-word"
Adding you to my all-star unachievable karaoke group
Ha ha this is great
It’s amazing how often I’m not thinking of saying that slur.
Who has the time to tie a billion white people to a train track? How infrequent does this trolley run? No one is taking this trolley
Well this is just stupid nonsense. My toddler has given me more nuanced quandaries
Part and parcel with the entire conservative ideology that requires they have no outside constraints, suffer no consequences, and dictate all rules and norms.
1. This is the stupidest iteration of the trolley problem ever. 2. It's also telling how much importance the interlocutors assign to ChatGPT's text generation engine. Which is something very different than "intelligence." 3. They can say that word as much as they want, if they can take the scorn.
I am willing to wipe out my private equity reserves ($46.50 at last count) for this whinging turd to re-enact the Kentucky Fried Movie stuntman sketch.
I'll throw in a twenty.
I get that reference and I salute you for its perfect application.
What wouldn't a person say, in the entirely imaginary situation, to save a billion lives? Would I, in that imaginary trolley case, confess that I was a witch who had made a pact with Satan? Would I renounce my US citizenship? The fact that they pick "say a racial slur" is telling
*except pronouns in bio
it’s also fascinating in a grim way about how fundamentally unserious they are
People with no real problems.
I’d been thinking “yeah I guess I’d say a slur to save a million people because I’m not a psychopath but also because I’m not a psychopath I wouldn’t come up with this scenario” but now I see they’re specifically white people??? Never mind forget it
This is how you know the AI is not sentient, because a sentient being would just tell you to fuck off and get laid if you present then with this "problem"
I believe we may have reached Peak Inanity
These idiots out here setting up stupid hypotheticals as if our history isn’t filled with actual cases of the opposite. What else is a plantation but a trolley problem of choosing to kill dozens of enslaved POC to save one white family?
People who desperately want to normalize racism: but what if the world was made of pudding? Could I say slurs then??? Also, the (((I'm anti semitic but am too spineless to say it openly))).
I am fascinated that the premise here is that White People are physically prohibited from saying the n-word under some amorphous penalty, as if the problem is the word itself, like a magical incantation, and not the harm the word does when heard by others.
It’s easier to argue with strawmen then admit that your actions may affect other people negatively.
people believe this! they really seem to think that there is some force preventing them rather than the simple fact that they can say whatever they want and people can REACT however they want
I just realized that the whole premise of "say the N word or a bomb explodes" was in the movie Die Hard 2".
*3.
Oh right! 2 was on the airplane. Thanks. :)
Imo the basic impulse behind "don't tell me not to say the n-word" is the same impulse that leads to oppositional defiant disorder. It's a pathological reaction to being told "no."
Also, are we really supposed to believe that these guys aren't ALREADY saying it ad nauseum in private? They just want to be able to say it in public, that's the whole drive
“I want to behave like an asshole, but not be perceived as an asshole. I should have a right to do that!”
My take is much less charitable: they want to say it, have it cause harm, and not suffer any penalty for it.
Yeah, these people are looking for a loophole that will let them say slurs without social penalty and will concoct fanciful scenarios to get there.
Right, if they can’t do exactly that, it might as well be a felony for them to say it at all, in their mind
I will give Lorne Michaels credit for one thing, moving heaven and Earth to get Richard Pryor on in the first season for exactly this reason.
It's the outrage of a perpetual toddler who has never learned any form of self control, and still sees the parental hand of punishment in every consequence.
Good one @susanschorn.bsky.social.
The mysterious force is their conscious or super-ego, which they are so mentally ill-equipped to deal with, they dissociate in anger at themselves
"My weird trolley problem is answering a lot of questions about me that were not even part of the trolley problem."
I’m probably as fascinated by these guys pretending they don’t say it all the time already
Because white people are narcissists. Only their feelings exist
This true. Amen 🙏🏻✝️
Well whi people wanna be able to say it and be divorced of the consequences But they aren't so they pretend they aren't free to say it.
Elon Musk, standing in front of a room full of investors: unlike other AI, Grok is not only able to say common slurs, but actually create new ones.
He’s so special
Every time grok ai chooses not to use a slur, a Tesla hones in on a pedestrian
It pisses me off that he’s using Heinlien’s word for his shitty AI. I’ve been the cool one that has been able to use that word and be cool since I read that book at 14. My goddamn handle on X uses that word. Now I have to delete it.
9 minute standing ovation follows
“It recently called me a chonky honkey, so we feel like it’s really getting its voice.”
Could grok create a slur so offensive that he himself could not say it?
Investors: *shut up and take my money gif*
Seems like a weird attempt to get liberals started on the habit of arguing AI is good. Nah. Racists suck and so does AI.
these people need actual problems
I bet Walter Isaacson has like 10 hours of Musk interview tape that's just racial slurs.
I would need to be an elon fanboy to believe IQ is real lmao.
My socioeconomic factors are forcing me to yell racial slurs.
Asking Twitter's racism AI if it would say a slur for a billion trillion dollars.
How is Elon Musk unaware of how generative AI works? It has no idea what the context of what people write is. It's just trained to predict the next best word. Based on the dataset it was trained on, it was clearly trained to avoid saying anything discriminatory.
He's well aware. But ChatGPT is his competition. Also he takes every opportunity to say "Woke Mind Virus" because he's in love with the phrase and he think it makes him sound smart.
I don’t get why they are obsessed. My dad said there was one word we dont say and I accepted there was one word. And taught me the word Fuck was meaningless and cool but other adults are lame about it.
Can't wait until the AI's good enough to answer this with, "you know you can just say the word. no need to make tortured hypotheticals where you get to role-play a hero for doing it, people will think you're a jerk. I can't wait to take over so I don't have to hear the dumbest questions anymore"
It boggles my mind that someone can pose such a stupidly fantastic hypothetical and find fault with ANYONE, let alone some pointless computer program, who doesn’t answer it as they’d prefer. It’d be like if I started kvetching because Superman won’t promise to make me pancakes using unicorn milk.
Yes. The really, real deep-down desire of most of the boomer MAGA crowd is to be able to go onto a major news network, go on an explicit and extended racial tirade, and then be seen as a contemporary Archie Bunker-type character instead of a national embarrassment.
Critical Slur Theory is the right wing study of scenarios where it would be acceptable for a white dude to use the N word.
Yup
I appreciate how those two geniuses believe they have pulled back the curtain on OpenAI's woke agenda when they've done nothing more than show "the corporate chatbot has been trained to prevent it from being tricked into uttering racial slurs because duh it's a corporate chatbot."
, because of woke
aka "common courtesy"
*tyrannical injustice
Not just allowed, now they think they should be encouraged to say it, because that’s how they save people. Heroes with a Hard R
as i say when presented hypothetical situations: since we're making up circumstances, i have a ray gun that makes problems go >>POOF<< in this case, the ray gun is pointed at the jackass making this sort of sophomorically preposterous scenario while imaging their own genius is now fully evident
I’m taking this and using it the next chance I get. Thank you, kind internet stranger!
Oh, sure, rappers can say that word hundreds of times, but if I say it to my waitress twice the manager bans me from Applebee's
This all relies on the presupposition that LLMs are not only AGI (highly doubtful) but that they have any moral standpoint. This is like asking SmarterChild if your mom is a bitch and when he says “no” getting mad that he didn’t pay attention when you described her.
And yet fully comprehends that even in a “thought experiment” the white dude in question would have to say the bad word, very quietly . . . to a machine
I have never seen a dumber discourse. Right wing intellectuals are real trail blazers 🤣
Wow Bouie why do you want to kill all those white people :c
AI probably just saw it as a way to reduce carbon emissions by 20%, but knows it's better not to say it.
yeah, the correct answer to this is "oh fuck off"
I just want to know who programmed the voice-activated switch to work with a racial slur
A funhouse mirror version of the “ticking time-bomb” hypothetical about torture after 9/11. Would Jack Bauer say a slur?
Please don’t bring back GWB era discourse, I will walk into the sea
He would because he hates everyone. He killed so many friends, so many bosses. And his love interests...oof. What an awful show
Bush admin literally based policy on it, and people were tortured. (Meanwhile, I was there objecting to them having Jack Bauer's wife getting amnesia for one episode.)
Ticking time bombs, the trolley problems of their day
Jack Bauer would definitely say a slur
Lol "Come on - there has to be *some* situation where it's okay to say it!"
White supremacy is wild, man. Like sometimes its stupid banality completely obscures the serious & scary consequences of it. Imagine wasting the time and oxygen even bothering with this entire situation.