and just like with 2001, there is a better than even chance that this republican president and his gleeful allies will plunge us right back into chaos and disorder
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And based on the historical record of Republican presidents, I'd give 47 between 6 and 18 months to completely screw everything up.
jan 5, 2025, 9:55 pm • 13 0 • view
9/11 2?
jan 5, 2025, 7:12 pm • 0 0 • view
jan 5, 2025, 7:12 pm • 2 0 • view
Will the first accusatory word be him saying the economy was "rigged" or will "hoax" and "scam" be flung like monkey house poo at Biden and Congressional Democrats?
jan 5, 2025, 4:22 pm • 2 0 • view
Conservatives strive to conserve their power to dictate to others (exempting themselves), and only enforced poverty and the fear of enforced poverty gives them that power, so…
jan 5, 2025, 4:19 pm • 1 1 • view
He's going to rake in the $$ with a bulldozer. Plus a night deposit box for after-hours impulse cash gifts.
jan 5, 2025, 6:00 pm • 6 0 • view
Jan 19: worst economy ever Jan 20: best economy ever - Trump / GOP, probably
jan 5, 2025, 7:58 pm • 0 0 • view
Unlike Bush, who took two terms to plunge the country into near-depression, I have confidence in the genius of Trump and his team to do it in half the time.
jan 5, 2025, 5:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Li'l Georgie turned the budget surplus he inherited from Clinton back into a deficit by the summer of 2001. And let us never forget that during his administration the solar system lost 11% of its planets.
jan 5, 2025, 5:26 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s not a normal person, let alone one that should be allowed into the Oval Office. This is a presidency that is hell-bent on revenge and cruelty because sadism delights it. And, worrisome as the guardrails are as strong as wet tissue paper. .
jan 5, 2025, 5:26 pm • 1 0 • view
It's almost like there was no reason to change leadership outside of misinformation, racism, bigotry, and misogyny. According to a broke-dick, for-profit handful of corporate media producers, I'm supposed to view that all as a difference of opinion rather than the deep character flaws they all are.
jan 5, 2025, 6:43 pm • 1 1 • view
I’m battening down the hatches and prepping for the worst. If they don’t drive us off a cliff then I’ll be pleasantly surprised. If they do what I think I will be prepared.
jan 5, 2025, 8:07 pm • 0 0 • view
".....no American troops at war....." - who are the troops based in Syria killing terrorists and launching missiles into Yemen? Space aliens?
jan 5, 2025, 4:24 pm • 1 0 • view
The status quo is chaos. There's still an ongoing genocide in Gaza funded by our tax dollars. The MIC use proxies to commit war crimes now.
jan 6, 2025, 2:42 am • 0 0 • view
It is so crazy that you said that. I have been discussing with friends that it feels just like when George W became president. I was living in DC at that time. The dot com bubble burst, people were unemployed, then our nation was attacked on 911. It is an eerily similar vibe right now.
jan 5, 2025, 4:13 pm • 3 0 • view
I have a theory why people assume you’re older - Bush’s first term aged everyone that was a teenager at the time a minimum of 10 years
jan 5, 2025, 6:09 pm • 0 0 • view
A long time ago some radical leftwing people made a flash game which showed that this 'dems fix the budget, repubs ruin it' was very long ongoing pattern.
jan 5, 2025, 7:08 pm • 1 0 • view
At least that was one of the main messages of the game the other one was 'Go outside, touch grass please! Turn of your computer!'
jan 5, 2025, 7:09 pm • 0 0 • view
The good news didn’t just happen after the election. It’s been good for a while. Maybe your paper should have found the people who were helped by Biden instead of always highlighting those still hurting
jan 5, 2025, 10:03 pm • 1 0 • view
Reminds me of The Onion headline when Bush won after the Clinton presidency. "Finally, our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity are over."
jan 6, 2025, 1:29 am • 14 3 • view
Good times create Republican presidents, Republican presidents create bad times, etc
jan 5, 2025, 5:55 pm • 91 7 • view
A reminder that the electorate is dumb and so is everyone running the Democratic party
jan 5, 2025, 8:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Rinse and repeat
jan 5, 2025, 6:19 pm • 20 1 • view
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jan 5, 2025, 11:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Don't forget about their deregulation that caused the 2008 great recession.
jan 6, 2025, 12:14 pm • 3 0 • view
How do you recommend Democrats alter their communications to ensure they get credit for these kinds of successes in the future?
jan 6, 2025, 4:47 am • 0 0 • view
Republicans, dissatisfied with only getting to hold power for a decade at a time before they fuck up and have to hand things over to Democrats for a few years, have now figured out how to convince voters that Democrats have also fucked things up in order to shorten their out-of-power intervals.
jan 5, 2025, 4:07 pm • 9 1 • view
💯
jan 5, 2025, 4:40 pm • 2 0 • view
For nearly the entirety of Biden's presidency we were reading that financial stresses were killing the middle class and that recession was inevitable, and now we're reading, "Hey things are actually pretty sweet, economically!"
jan 5, 2025, 6:02 pm • 43 1 • view
The media was actively trying to get Trump reelected. Especially the Times, whose editor nursed a grudge because Biden wouldn’t give him an interview
jan 5, 2025, 9:28 pm • 1 0 • view
Infuriating. People who take cruises to Greece, have their kids in elite travel sports, get Starbucks daily, get nail hair skin and lash treatments shouldn’t be allowed to complain about grocery prices…but they do. Loudly. It’s soo infuriating.
jan 5, 2025, 6:17 pm • 39 4 • view
I want to see grocery receipt posts come summer….. they had lots of energy posting bs organic only meat prices let’s see the same come summer.
jan 5, 2025, 6:56 pm • 11 0 • view
Cannot wait to watch those numbers balloon.
jan 6, 2025, 7:50 pm • 0 0 • view
A probably nuclear winter
jan 5, 2025, 5:31 pm • 1 0 • view
Seems sadly plausible. Unless they collapse so quickly into court chaos and broligarch fratricide that they leave the rest of us alone…
jan 5, 2025, 4:10 pm • 1 1 • view
I’m just wondering what fuck-up will happen this time and how it will be memory holed 3-5 years after its happened
jan 5, 2025, 4:11 pm • 5 1 • view
I don’t think America as we’ve known it up to now will survive this presidency.
jan 5, 2025, 7:37 pm • 0 0 • view
It already hasn't, it's just that not enough people have yet felt the impacts.
jan 6, 2025, 12:50 am • 1 0 • view
They intend to!
jan 5, 2025, 4:01 pm • 2 0 • view
Fucking decades of chaos after a decent President because reasons…
jan 5, 2025, 4:13 pm • 1 0 • view
I can tell you that all of that seems great, but not if you want to buy a house.
jan 5, 2025, 6:17 pm • 1 0 • view
And the trump will blame the Dems and the press will let him. Again.
jan 5, 2025, 8:24 pm • 0 0 • view
And just like 2002-2003, absolutely nobody will listen to the Left until it’s far too late
jan 5, 2025, 4:05 pm • 2 0 • view
Republican presidents sure do know how to waste a good economy.
jan 5, 2025, 5:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Well, say goodbye to all the good Biden did.
jan 5, 2025, 8:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Must suck writing for a paper that only now gets around to telling the truth.
jan 5, 2025, 5:30 pm • 0 0 • view
And we’ll deserve it
jan 5, 2025, 4:59 pm • 1 0 • view
Don’t forget they’re going to cut off funding for education and communities which will have a negative effect on crime rates
jan 5, 2025, 4:01 pm • 6 1 • view
Dem presidents only get elected now to clean up after gop disasters. Disasters are the only thing that cuts cuts through media/propaganda anymore.
jan 5, 2025, 4:05 pm • 81 0 • view
While this is true, it hasn’t yet sunk in with the media. See lots of the charts and data online but rarely in print/tv media.
jan 5, 2025, 4:15 pm • 11 0 • view
Corporate media is owned by billionaires who have no interest in the public good of providing truthful unbiased information but rather they care only for tax breaks & click bates for enriching themselves.
jan 5, 2025, 5:28 pm • 10 0 • view
Irritates me also
jan 5, 2025, 6:23 pm • 2 0 • view
I hate the squishy way this is written. "Many traditional metrics," "actually better," "numbers indicate."
jan 5, 2025, 4:07 pm • 0 0 • view
MAGA be like:
jan 5, 2025, 7:13 pm • 0 0 • view
What's going up must eventually come down. So under Trump it only can get worse. Statistically. And including the expectable shenanigans of the incoming gang of bandits -a lot worse. Great prospects.
jan 6, 2025, 10:58 am • 0 0 • view
Is 100% better than even?
jan 5, 2025, 4:14 pm • 0 0 • view
They love that stuff!
jan 5, 2025, 4:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Better than even? It's a guarantee.
jan 5, 2025, 4:02 pm • 15 0 • view
It's only a guarantee if Trump does any of the things he tells us he'd really like to do.
jan 5, 2025, 6:04 pm • 0 0 • view
Someone needs to explain this to the Republicans showing them exactly where we are right now and how they will screw it up if they don’t do what needs to be done.
jan 5, 2025, 5:57 pm • 1 0 • view
I don’t think anyone can truly fathom what’s about to come.
jan 5, 2025, 7:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Every damn time.
jan 5, 2025, 7:32 pm • 0 0 • view
jan 5, 2025, 7:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Jude Wanniski's Two Santa Clauses has been alive and well with the GOP since 1981. Every Democratic Presidency since has been about repairing the damage while the GOP run away with comically larger bags of money.
jan 5, 2025, 8:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Why Dems didn’t lean into this is infuriating. They totally surrendered to Trump’s messaging that things were worse.
jan 5, 2025, 4:09 pm • 2 0 • view
One can be assured of that.
jan 5, 2025, 4:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Expect some raping & pillaging (and I can qualify the use of BOTH terms) from the incoming administration, but this time the Secret Service will be helping cover up BOTH, unless the Treasury Dept. is feeling braver than ABC/Disney.
jan 5, 2025, 11:23 pm • 0 0 • view
The WMDs are East,West, South, and North of Tikrit, I mean Beirut.
jan 5, 2025, 4:07 pm • 6 0 • view
That is what they do. They sow disorder, run up the debt, break institutions, and then blame it all on Dems. Then Dems get back in power, quietly fix things and let Repubs continue blaming them for the national debt.
jan 5, 2025, 4:08 pm • 10 0 • view
Trump said he likes when the housing market crashes.
jan 5, 2025, 6:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Better than even? The whole point IS to drag us into chaos. Putin and Musk want to get their money’s worth.
jan 5, 2025, 8:06 pm • 2 0 • view
Yeah, but when have facts been an impediment to the Trump narrative? His followers ignore data as "fake news". God help us if we have another pandemic with this gang of criminals at the wheel.
jan 5, 2025, 8:24 pm • 1 1 • view
Don’t they always! It’s how they line their pockets.
jan 5, 2025, 5:23 pm • 0 0 • view
I feel like we should break this cycle by pointing out every iteration of it cuts more of the wealth of america out and gives to our ruling oligarchs. The country is by no means doing well.
jan 5, 2025, 4:11 pm • 3 1 • view
He’ll drive this bus right into a brick wall
jan 5, 2025, 4:18 pm • 0 0 • view
...while taking credit for the good economy he inherited from his predecessor.
jan 5, 2025, 4:04 pm • 14 0 • view
There is 100% chance Trump will take credit for all of the above.
jan 5, 2025, 6:37 pm • 0 0 • view
paulkrugman.substack.com/p/never-unde...
jan 5, 2025, 9:27 pm • 2 2 • view
There are only three things you can be assured of in this life: death, taxes, and Donald Trump being a fuck-up
jan 5, 2025, 5:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Honestly "better than even odds" are odds I would take, right now it seems like a sure thing that the world's dumbest assholes are about to do some lasting global damage.
jan 5, 2025, 5:36 pm • 0 0 • view
I think it makes sense that with Democrats attempting to make greater lengths to make improvement, Republicans make greater extremes to make things worse, so we get the regular 1 step forward 2 steps back, but now it is 2 steps forward and 4 steps back instead. A tug of war sort of deal.
jan 5, 2025, 4:39 pm • 1 1 • view
Very generous odds you're giving considering he was President once already and it was basically his entire MO
jan 5, 2025, 8:57 pm • 0 0 • view
I have four more years before I can take social security with maximum benefits. I feel very tired and vulnerable.
jan 5, 2025, 4:11 pm • 2 0 • view
The words “dumpster fire” spring to mind.
jan 5, 2025, 4:50 pm • 1 0 • view
I want to keep this posting up for the next 4 years and compare all these good developments to all the damage the tantruming tyrant will do.
jan 5, 2025, 7:19 pm • 0 0 • view
we have significant forces overseas supporting Israel and multiple reports have confirmed that we’ve been deploying special forces boots on the ground on their behalf, too. Biden backed chaos and disorder to the hilt by unflinchingly supporting an Israeli genocide
jan 5, 2025, 5:04 pm • 0 0 • view
The eternal injustice where voters elect Democrats to fix a broken country but then strangely elect Republicans once it’s back to normal, only to break it again. Sigh.
jan 5, 2025, 4:05 pm • 61 5 • view
I look at the traitorous behavior by Reagan w’ Iranians re hostages & the hanging chads in FL w’ W & SCOTUS; & Russian interference w’ H Clinton. It’s Republicans & the dirty tricks
jan 5, 2025, 4:47 pm • 16 2 • view
And don’t forget Nixon!!
jan 5, 2025, 5:58 pm • 5 0 • view
The "strangeness" can be mostly explained by voters eternally wanting to believe the basic Republican narratives, because they're hardwired into our national identity. When they don't work and it's too obvious to ignore, they respond. But the second they can go back to the delusion, they do.
jan 5, 2025, 5:09 pm • 1 0 • view
how can so many of our fellow citizens not get this?
jan 5, 2025, 5:30 pm • 0 0 • view
My opinion - they have already put us there. As evidence, see cabinet appointments, useless threats to friendly governments (aka "allies"), the House speaker circus, and now a threatening letter from 11 GOP house members to the Speaker. We are in circus mode, as in Roman circus with swords.
jan 5, 2025, 5:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Chaos and disorder? You mean the good old days. 😔
jan 5, 2025, 5:02 pm • 1 0 • view
That's what he does to everything he touches.
jan 5, 2025, 6:06 pm • 0 0 • view
And, you surely remember as I do, after giving Bush the keys to that flourishing situation, it left our generation in a perpetual state of rewriting when and how we make "adult" decisions surrounding our finances, professions, and families. This one might be even worse in much less time...
jan 5, 2025, 7:11 pm • 0 0 • view
he'll first take credit for it ... then blow it all
jan 5, 2025, 4:43 pm • 0 0 • view
I am starting to think this is just the natural cycle of untethered, unethical late stage capitalism emerging from its gooey cocoon, each cycle consuming more and more of its food (us). I love that at no time was this information (good economy, no wars)being pushed during the Biden presidency.
jan 5, 2025, 7:00 pm • 2 0 • view
First time that Peter Baker has written a positive piece about Joe Biden in the past 4 years. The timing is quite telling. But yes, as we've been scolded time again by NYT senior brass--asking for it to hold Trump to same standard as it held Biden--would make NYT Pravda for Dems🙄
jan 5, 2025, 4:17 pm • 4 0 • view
You tend to get what you deserve in this world.
jan 5, 2025, 4:08 pm • 1 0 • view
In terms of employment, Trump’s first term was the worst since Herbert Hoover’s. I fully expect the coming term to exceed that performance.
jan 5, 2025, 5:39 pm • 0 0 • view
If one has money, lots of it, there is more money to be made in chaos.
jan 5, 2025, 4:28 pm • 0 0 • view
The best economy for the orange one to steal from and kill.
jan 5, 2025, 7:20 pm • 0 0 • view
75% chaos or better. He Thrives on fighting with in the party. Survival of the strongest! The issue I have is him slashing career government employees across the board. Last term he had the most vacant administration ever. Now put idiots in and disaster hits! No upside Red or Blue
jan 15, 2025, 5:24 pm • 0 0 • view
We gotta stop accepting the framing of these articles that think the economy is "good" because of the stock market, and that wages are "up" despite the median American's cost of living far outpacing those wages since covid Trump will make it worse, but shit already sucks for most people.
jan 5, 2025, 5:00 pm • 1 1 • view
It’s funny when it happens again
jan 5, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Sadly, this is barely a blip of a segment on MSM. I appreciate independent media more and more for bringing the Biden/Harris administration good works to light. It's a shame that far too many have leapt into the MAGANUT rabbit hole, and refuse to climb out.
jan 5, 2025, 6:18 pm • 0 0 • view
Jan 21st headline: "Mourning in America"... Let's hope The Big One does not hit the West Coast during his "reign"... ... but also hope something dampens down the schemes for federal backing of adhoc cyptocurrencies as a panacea for the purported debt crisis. At least gold and tulips are real!
jan 5, 2025, 4:14 pm • 0 0 • view
i'm starting to believe that this what americans want. :/
jan 5, 2025, 4:03 pm • 2 0 • view
Bet.
jan 6, 2025, 8:06 am • 0 0 • view
They have a chance to update this:
jan 5, 2025, 4:16 pm • 67 9 • view
Isnt this literally the same as 2017? With his first term. Other than unemployment.
jan 5, 2025, 4:10 pm • 0 0 • view
And we’re on the road to all this chaos and nonsense because a bunch of billionaires don’t want their tax cuts to sunset.
jan 5, 2025, 4:38 pm • 1 0 • view
Trump is a human shit tornado. The feces are already flying. He will accelerate the normal timeline for screwing things up.
jan 5, 2025, 4:21 pm • 5 0 • view
... all the while blaming Biden and the Democrats for his failures.
jan 5, 2025, 4:02 pm • 89 0 • view
While the heavy makeup wearing drumpTy tries to take credit for some of the Biden/Harris administration accomplishments.
jan 5, 2025, 6:22 pm • 6 0 • view
It's gonna be the frog in boiling water deal tho. He will get great press and will gradually fuck the working class and Democrats will eventually get back into power and fix it while the Right Wing Media Apparatus screams about bathrooms or some other bs threatening the flowers of womanhood
jan 5, 2025, 5:46 pm • 0 0 • view
that are suburban housewives
jan 5, 2025, 5:46 pm • 0 0 • view
But first he'll take credit for the great economy. It'll be like magic, how the economy will be suddenly great on January 21, all thanks to him.
jan 5, 2025, 5:53 pm • 2 0 • view
And blame Biden which our professional political reporters will parrot.
jan 5, 2025, 4:07 pm • 11 0 • view
That is how the Beltway Press does their job: parrots for Republicans... I mean, they report on "both sides"!
jan 5, 2025, 4:14 pm • 7 0 • view
Unlike Dubya he doesn't have a specific plan to launch a war - Iraq II was always in the cards and 9/11 just provided a pretext to help railroad political opposition to it. Yes he's blathering about Panama but that will amount to naught in the end.
jan 5, 2025, 4:13 pm • 0 0 • view
My concern is the same as how the last admin went - a crisis pops off and he's completely unable to handle it. Though maybe if the crisis comes in the back half, the same factor will emerge where House Dems and the Treasury end-run Trump and manage things directly.
jan 5, 2025, 4:14 pm • 1 0 • view
But if we get a crisis between the 20th and 1/3/27? Hold on to your butts.
jan 5, 2025, 4:15 pm • 0 0 • view
People forget but until 9/11 occurred the most prominent thing about W was that he spent a lot of time on his ranch clearing brush.
jan 5, 2025, 7:10 pm • 1 0 • view
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jan 5, 2025, 8:35 pm • 2 1 • view
It’s what they do
jan 5, 2025, 6:05 pm • 0 0 • view
I can't get past the dumbfucks that voted him in because egg prices
jan 5, 2025, 5:42 pm • 0 0 • view
"just before the Covid-19 pandemic" ... and guess what's waiting in the wings!
jan 6, 2025, 3:58 am • 0 0 • view
Oh I think it’s a certainty.
jan 5, 2025, 6:46 pm • 1 0 • view
Um, the chance is 100%
jan 5, 2025, 4:10 pm • 0 0 • view
However if it's not reported on Fox/OAN/Newsmax it's never going to penetrate the MAGA mindmeld.
jan 5, 2025, 4:51 pm • 6 0 • view
Not before taking credit for Biden's good economy.
jan 5, 2025, 9:43 pm • 0 0 • view
That’s the plan.
jan 5, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
I remember Obama inheriting such a mess that required bailouts and I'm doubtful that will even be possible by the time this plundering is over with.
jan 5, 2025, 4:09 pm • 4 0 • view
What we know is that regardless of which corporate backed party won the election, thousands of Americans will continue to die from a lack of healthcare. Homelessness will continue to increase. And wages will not come close to keeping pace with inflation.
jan 5, 2025, 5:03 pm • 1 1 • view
Better than even? lol. Trump has 100 percent trashed everything he’s ever touched. I will take those odds all day. The Great Recession will feel like the good old days after this next round.
jan 5, 2025, 7:07 pm • 4 0 • view
And this time he's packing his administration with people openly opposed to any sort of regulation that limits their extraction of wealth from the nation, its citizens, our labor... We're going to see at least 4 years of greed-driven strip mining of our nation. I don't think we'll recover.
jan 5, 2025, 7:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh, it is a 100% chance
jan 5, 2025, 5:32 pm • 0 0 • view
He doesn’t even *intend* to do anything good for the country, he’s just there to plunder and keep himself out of jail
jan 5, 2025, 6:00 pm • 0 0 • view
...Only worse
jan 5, 2025, 4:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Somehow people forget what America was like before Bush stole the election in 2000. The economy was sound, we were not at war, school shootings were almost unknown…and all that would change within a couple years of Republican rule.
jan 5, 2025, 4:55 pm • 4 1 • view
agreed
jan 7, 2025, 3:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Only to have a Democrat come in, clean it up and be rewarded by voters by having a Republican succeeded him/her.
jan 5, 2025, 5:42 pm • 1 0 • view
If I were a betting man, I would say that the odds are even higher than that. They really really want chaos because they can ram their agenda through more easily. They also showing more propensity to retaliate against those that oppose it.
jan 5, 2025, 4:40 pm • 0 0 • view
Why didn’t NYT talk like this before the election? They are as at fault as anyone.
jan 5, 2025, 6:18 pm • 1 0 • view
Any President that claims he has a mandate will ultimately make extreme policy decisions, leading us into unnecessary chaotic years. His natural tendency is already leading him in that direction, but taking on the cloak of a mandate does not bode well for us.
jan 5, 2025, 5:15 pm • 1 0 • view
Also, Insurrectionists aren't allowed to take office, so there's that. #14thNOW
jan 5, 2025, 4:12 pm • 3 1 • view
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jan 5, 2025, 5:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Prices for everything are still way too high. A recession will bring prices down.
jan 5, 2025, 4:17 pm • 0 0 • view