my takeaway from reading this is that i have to assume that every half-competent intelligence agency in the world has an almost real-time glimpse into what the white house and the pentagon are doing
my takeaway from reading this is that i have to assume that every half-competent intelligence agency in the world has an almost real-time glimpse into what the white house and the pentagon are doing
Agree. And why anyone would share intelligence with the US is beyond me at this point.
I assume France, Germany, Israel and others have intelligence evidence of the relationship between Putin and turmp. Perhaps they could release it with plausible deniability? Maybe they have? We could use more. www.ibtimes.sg/ex-kgb-offic...
If this were in a movie script, it would be rejected as too ridiculous to use, even in a satire.
We are now governed by people whose intellectual and emotional development stalled in middle school.
Actually I kind of like the fact that once again, the orange snot rocket and his band of 3rd rate Central Casting actors live up to their reputations for incompetence and sloth.
I’m sure every intelligence agency on the planet has at least one person installed at the all-you-can-eat shrimp buffet at Mar-a-Lago.
The sloppiness and incompetence of this administration is breathtaking.
This has to be a joke, right? Something from The Onion?
Really makes one feel all cozy, warm and fuzzy doesn’t it?
Doing and thinking and how short sighted they are.
I am certain we have more than one “Password1234!”
Like letting the pre-schoolers run the lumber mill, with much more dire consequences. The entire works is on to us and our ineptitude
WORLD
Pretty much
Wonder how soon until Musk sells those war plans he saw to the Chinese. Musk has a Tesla factory in Shanghai, and with Tesla stock hemorrhaging, you can bet he puts business above America; his temporary country of convenience.
They're totally gonna prosecute him for receiving the texts
The incompetence of this Trump administration is the only thing that actually has "trickle down" effects.
“I am not Russian-person and only wish to look at you pretty pentagon. May person wonder around onto secure locations?”
💯
These arrogant imbeciles are too thirsty for attention to follow security protocol.
Who knew a lecherous drunk could fly so high? Impeachment level accomplishment.
yep our enemies are laughing at us the sheer stupidity and incompetence makes my fuckin brain hurt thinkin about it.
Same.😱
That’s what happens when you drunk text
On a scale of 1-10, how does Hilary’s emails compare to this debacle.
The most compromised administration from every possible angle
The arrogance of incompetence.
Since 2016, every serious person understands that a private email server with no classified information on it constitutes the lowest conceivable level of moral depravity - it makes genocide look like jaywalking. So carelessly including journalists in war-planning group chats is bad, right?
Ah but you see the cunning ploy is that there is no plan and the trump US simply acts on a whim which is so comforting for ..... 🤔🤔🤔..... Noone
First rule of Bomb club chat...
Yup.
Good fucking grief!! 😬🤦🏽♂️
China probably knows more about what this administration is doing than Trump does.
Aw Pete, bless your heart. At least he wears a cute little patriotic hankie for his big boy job 👏🏽 Good for him….
Under this administration that might not be a bad thing. Our enemies and friends(what few we have left) will be able to prepare for whatever idiocy Trump comes up with and hopefully keep it in check
The vodka is flowing in Moscow no doubt.
And, Dumpy is handing over anything he thinks gives him leverage?
What was the danger Hillary was supposed to have exposed us to. Can the Benghazi committee be reconstituted to look at Pete.
But her emails!
I bet 1 dozen large white eggs that this is not on any networks' evening news @cbsnews.com ABCNews @nbcnews.com #1ACensorship
No bet.😒🙄
NPR has had it on their hourly news highlights.
Trump's merit based leaders. Planes falling out of the sky, once eradicated, now common measles outbreaks and top-secret military plans being shared on a civilian messaging app with a newspaper editor! Honestly, it almost seems like it had to be the desired outcome! Right?! This is pure insanity!!
feels extremely weird to be hoping the *actual* deep state is maybe still plugging away in the background without telling their buffoonish bosses anything
Right, and i wish they would put it on blast for the world to see
I’ll take DEI over DUI any day of the week.
Yes. Sounds about right!!!
Hegseth, who is getting weekly updates from the nearly 1M DoD employees. I'm sure any details anyone had been including in those is going to drop to zero.
We are F-ing screwed.
The Secretary of Defense says that he will "do all [he] can to enforce 100% OPSEC" while in a group chat on Signal that accidentally included the editor of a major US magazine. Everyone on this chain should resign in disgrace. The Atlantic editor is doing a better job protecting national security:
I imagine the follow up will be "hey guys, let's not do that again. LOL" in a signal chat.
That’s a comfort actually 😂
Where are the DEI hires when you need them - they don't even have scapegoats now! 😂
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if the Houthis had enough warning to shift assets around
Only the best
hopefully so, in the same way Biden was smart to broadcast Putin's Feb 2022 plans
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This group has elevated the meaning of moronic to an art form.
So, this is unbelievably & absurdly stupid & dangerous for us! Is anything at all gonna come of this or are we all just gonna keep on with this ridiculous pretending that it's all normal!? Any other admin would be thrown into the 🔥 for this! They can't be let off the hook ot how much worse will...
...it get next time, or who knows what the consequences of this epic fuck up will still be to come! 😡🤦♂️
My takeaway is that every US NATO ally must assume that any information sent to the Americans will end up in Moscow 15 minutes later.
Good cause WH sure as hell doesn’t
What a bunch of incompetent morons.
“Best of the best”😳😳😳
They absolutely do. Largely because Trump will give access to TS information to anyone who a wallet. And that's not a joke.
Agreed - I'd be surprised if the cyber-attacks haven't started already.
@usarmy.bsky.social @aoc.bsky.social @repjasmine.bsky.social @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social @schiff.senate.gov @wyden.senate.gov ignorant Domestic Terrorists are in the WH! Full speed ahead… make them pay!
I just texted Hegseth and said I was Kash Patel, so I get all the updates.
He’s just going to ask you for fashion advice
😜
You can get a 30 day free trial to the gold tier patreon and get access 15 minutes early in case you need to move some money around.
We are going to lose a war in either the Middle East or Latin America by 2027, mark my words.
😳😳😳🥺 we are so fucked
Your assumption is well-founded. These people are clowns who are endangering our national security in real time.
You know they're having a nonstop caviar and vodka party at the Kremlin
Imagine how rapt those agencies must be to witness all this.
Only the best...
Man o man!!! If the democrats did THIS???!!! Holy mother of pearl would they all lose their 💩!!!!
also with them stripping so many federal employees, there is no way their information security stance is even a D grade. There are 100% going to be holes and there is no shot that they have any visibility into that
WTF was JD Vance doing there? These pathetic "merit"-based fascist hires clearly have no interest whatsoever in our national security.
They obviously will do anything to avoid the required regulatory actions for having to record the history of their work. So, because they will do anything to avoid accountability for recording their historical actions, we now instead have NO NATIONAL SECURITY. Stupid and dangerous buffoons.
It’s beyond dramatic
My takeaway from your takeaway is that I am … relieved? Bad actors listening in is terrible, of course, but former allies listening in and saving us from ourselves is like “oh thank God!”
Absolutely.💯
I suspect the only problem for foreign intelligence is that they're not sure what to believe: *They can't be that stupid.* With the dawning realization: *Oh, but they are.* Still confused about "seize Greenland". We need a poll showing nobody wants to. It should die down then.
Remember how we were reading the Russian general staff’s Telegram channels at the start of the Ukraine invasion? Same thing
Wow! We are screwed in so many ways!
He was probably already drunk at 11am when he was sending the texts to people
Can’t wait for the inevitable “this is the most transparent administration in history” dumbass justifications.
The thing is, this story won't prompt them to do better, only to go after Jeffrey for exposing their carelessness. It's all so fucking appalling.
I'm just amusing myself imagining their blind terror as they start checking their other Signal groups. "Sergei L? He's the guy that brings in the sandwiches when we're hungry, right?" "Hi ChatGPT, how do you delete the backup archive on Signal?"
Yes sir, fair assumption with no OPSEC. Open season on our intelligence collectors.
In that case, their incompetence may actually save us all.
I wonder how many of them are putting in spurious information to see where it leaks out. Just, you know. Out of curiosity.
Such utter incompetence and sheer stupidity of all involved.
At all times.
I’m shocked at how peevish, petty, and Biden-obsessed they are in private. Maybe naive of me, but I kind of assumed that stuff was mostly for the cameras.
I think one of the biggest issues for Dems in office is not understanding that - Republicans have gone from using grievance to drive their voters to true believers. There are very few who haven’t stewed their brains in right wing media, they truly believe their propaganda.
Grievance-targeting is a very powerful political tool, unfortunately.
Let’s hope that works in our favor if and when we get to vote again after this shitshow.
And they really believe Europe is “PATHETIC” by allowing us to bully them into naval/military hegemony. 🫠
They ignore this was our post WWII policy to stop european countries (and Asian ones) from building up huge armies. we took on security stop regional conflicts. peace and prosperity was what we got out of it, but Trump's people don't believe in anything they can't measure on a spreadsheet
How do we know that they didn’t purposefully include this reporter, as a gimmick?
Oh, no, no, we knew.
Maybe it only takes 1 or 2 true believers in the chat for everyone else to pretty much always have to pretend to be true believers too.
same here - thought it was just a distraction but amazingly they must have been quite jealous of what he was able to do
Nooooo, they’ve got true believers in there now. They literally believe all the Biden conspiracies and shit they’ve marinated in for years
Yeah, that's more what surprised me, that they seemed to genuinely respect Trump's opinion rather than running the show deliberately without him.
Intellectually I know that, but emotionally it is constantly amazing that it's not an act, they really are this dumb
There would be less shame in living this way if they were actually evil geniuses. Worst timeline.
Not sure they do believe it. Their Biden snipes were in terms of what the message would be
That was my impression as well.
Zelensky tried to tell them; they are trapped in the same disinformation bubble as their voters…
Hook, line, sinker…
You can see that realization smack the GOP in real time if you go back and watch the "Obama is a good man, a Christian man" video
the inmates have taken over the asylum
I think they very classically fit Plato’s idea that the evil can’t be happy, in that they have temporarily WON- they beat Harris, Biden stepped aside and isn’t liked by his own side, but they don’t actually have anything productive in their own souls and so they can’t enjoy any of it at all
not that I want them to be happy or even think “all evil people are miserable bc only VIRTUE makes you happy” is even completely true, but here it is Even getting to do their stupid evil things won’t give them a simulacrum of happiness bc Biden still exists and was president and had popular moments
Virtue just hurts people who possess or respect it, pursuing it or trying to convey it to others is pushing that rock up a hill to only do it over and over. And again and again. While they write their own broken ethics and put it into laws. To break us, the real people down. Real people are real.
not to Bible Post but it is LENT and Jesus was RIGHT But Republicans don’t even have that shallow love, Musk’s kids are disposable, Trump’s favorite kid is the one he wants to rape, and Vance thinks his “shut up ab Pokémon” story is cute… they don’t even have the shallow love evil ppl can have
Really? They all have the maturity level of their dear leader. They’re all the same. They all had one shot at the big time - absolute frailty to trump. It’s their only “talent”.
*fealty Why don’t I read my posts before replying? 🥴
the frailty thing kinda worked
I mean their fealty is frailty so 😁
"The dumb leading the dumber."
Cause and affect!! 💥
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Thank you!
No problem!
I thought the same thing. They are worse than middle school girls.
And the way they affirm each other too. "Of course I b'leieve that too!" They sound like they're at a church revival.
Or 4th grade
i thought it was just Trump who hated Biden and figured it was jealousy because everyone respects and admires Biden, even Republicans (the old school Republicans).
The people merely playing at being amoral degenerates to appeal to him were weeded out during the adjudicated rapist's first term. Now you're left with the detritus that fell to the bottom. No more pretence required.
You know what Biden didn't do? Text military plans to journalists.
I thought that too
They’ve all been marinating too long in the same toxic stew and now the inmates are running the asylum.
That struck me too! The True Believers Only vibe is really stunning here.
Every once in a while (e.g. the latest republican speaker fight) you'll see a republican congress person leak something like "These idiots actually believe our propaganda!" Fox News is 30 years old, the current generation in power have known nothing else
I must say I thought the shallow thoughts-and-prayers Christianity, but they do the prayer hands emoji in private as well. I can't decide if that's better or worse than it being all an act.
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It’s what they are through and through.
At least ruzzia has front row seats with "inside"on every move made in wh, now !
I would be surprised if the conversations in thos3 agencies were like, "This is a false flag, right? Ham handed, sure, but they couldn't actually be *this* sloppy, right?"
Can Hegseth be impeached? This is dereliction of duty.
It’s not just him. It’s most of trump’s highest level appointees. Mr. Goldberg said in the article that not one of them realized there was an “extra” listening in on the group.
I am done.
I just finished Daniel Silva novel, The Collector. A main character is the CEO of a Danish fossil fuel company and a Russian asset. As I read the book, I wondered how many of Trump's people are useful idiots and who are assets. I won't spoil the ending, but it seems plausible.
To be fair, considering we flipped sides to screw our allies and start to side with our 80 year adversaries, that was probably already true
Plus we need to be talking about how Trump admits the #ElectionWasRigged bsky.app/profile/l0ur...
If this were a movie, you couldn’t write a better caricature of a white supremacist anti DEI crusader
"A message to the group, from 'Michael Waltz,' read as follows: 'Team – establishing a principles [sic] group for coordination on Houthis, particularly for over the next 72 hours." - The Atlantic They actually do need a "principles" group.
So, what will the felon Trump do about this very careless act? We're waiting?
Turns out to be not a big deal if the US kicks Canada out of Five Eyes.
It's the real "Derp State."🤣
Likely have for a while?
It didn’t sound as though this set up was a one-off..
I wonder how many are taking checks for info, and probably not even understanding that makes them a spy
BUT HER EMAILS
1/2 surprised Putin wasn’t one the people invited into the chat
Wanna bet Hegseth was skunk-drunk? I'm putting in my chips. 🃏
Yup, Trump is the worst thing for america. He’s actually a traitor, and i don’t use that word lightly. This country was built on the exploitation of POC and immigrants.
😂
Tell your reps and senators to quote her, TBH.
Of course. But long before this there were concerns about unsecured phones, the new Starlink system at the White House, the casual use of classified documents. It has been a shit show all through.
OpSec? Never heard of it.
Hey they said opsec was clean therefore it was clean.
British, Russian, and Chinese intelligence are probably just sharing one device and splitting the bill because it's easier that way. You can only fit so many bugs in a cheap vase.
Don’t blame me. I voted for the email lady.
five eyes and thousands screen streams.
Hegseth is a national security risk because of this.
This is what happens when you only hire DEIs (didn’t earn it)
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Thanks for the gift article. Incredible insights, broken protocol, candid opinions.
I am a little worried for Goldberg, I suspect they will absolutely go after him as a leaker.
Concur.
This tracks with the General American Sabotage underway. Why is the military complicit with this malfeasant incompetence? Patriotically inquiring minds want to know. Asking for a nation.
Alcohol fueled incompetence
We need European intelligence to start leaking everything
I mean some of those non-US agencies are directing the action right?
It's OK. They're Republicans who give lip service to the flag and hate all the right groups. No DEI as far as the eye can see, so they get a free pass on all their mistakes, idiocies, stupidities, and corruptions.
russia, china, n korea, iran, etc
We have NO national security anymore. Musk’s teams have opened all the software hatches and team tRump / Russian assets are broadcasting on open platforms. Witkoff appears to have been in Russia while on this chat group. Incompetent evil clowns.
Can you just imagine if the Biden admin'n did something as careless and frankly dumbass stupid? The GOP would be going berserk over it, pushing for impeachment or invoking the 25th Amendment. FOX noise would be wall to wall in this ranting like lunatics. Today? GOP? FOX? Crickets Dems? No better
These are the people who are looking for savings??!!
Plus, there is no telling how many classified documents Trump sold. MAGA is weakening America. Our allies are better off helping each other and avoiding us. Dealing with America is already a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation with the policies changing back and forth every 4 to 8 years.
It hurts that this is so true. Where do we even stay over after this mess?
*start.
Especially now that starlink is on the roof, presumably beaming all their internet into the stratosphere on its way to Russia.
a government of blind sycophants what could go wrong 🙃
Why are war plans being “texted” out.
But her emails!
Mara Lago is basically turned Spycraft from a complex diplomatic dance to a fast food of leaks. “We need to train an agent who can golf, drink and make hateful comments.”
Seriously, if your ex texts you every time he's had too much to drink, what makes you think Hedwig wouldn't? 😉
At least he did not send it directly to the head of Yemen military. I bet that head of the head joint chiefs of staff, he was black you know would have done the same thing by mistake. Naa just fucking with ya. He was a qualified expert with decades of knowledge and experience. Only 4 stars ⭐️
Clowns. In Teslas.
I just know you're right.
Between this and Starlink in the White House .... yes
Tip of the iceberg for sure.
Yes. The added bonus is if they don't spill it over the Internet, they definitely will spill it at happy hour.
And will never trust us again after this OPSEC nightmare spillage.
Yup. Drunk texting is never a good idea.
Don't they say "don't drink and text."
Darth knows bsky.app/profile/dart...
"I only hire the best people" - Trump
I wonder who else the accidentally invited. Russian media have been inside the oval office. Republicans have been interviewed on RT. So theres a good chance they also attended this chat. It's naive to think they didn't. And a chat on a commercial app.....
Bad news for national interests, great news for all of us suffering from imposter syndrome bsky.app/profile/wild...
When I see these Trump gang, a Shania Twayne song goes off in my head "That don't impress me much" they are like little boys playing king of the mountain.
But her emails
Shouldn’t a mistake of this magnitude be a demonstration of total incompetence??? Impeach/fire/do something. The man is so far BELOW his pay grade it’s terrifying!
There guys are gonna start a completely unnecessary but also eminently winnable war...and then proceed to lose it.
2027 nyt headline "Panama Victorious: Canal Remains Under Local Control." Subtitle: "US casualty count passes Vietnam mark, lack of medicine for preventable tropical diseases largely to blame."
The whole “lock her up” argument was based on much less. This is past a funny mishap. Any lower level official would be court martialed for this.
Every secret service in the world has multiple assets at Mar-a-Lago. “Nice work on that round of drinks, man. Are you Mossad?” “No, ISI. Ben at table 12 is Mossad.” “Right. He’s dating the GRU girl at reception, right?” “No, they split up. He’s hooking up with Sophie from Paris. That canteen…”
Bad for Americans, but I guess probably good for Canada and Greenland?
Very bad for Ukraine.
Yes, also true, thank you for pointing out.
Ultimately, it's bad for everyone. Except Russia, China, Iran and North Korea.
Don't forget the Saudis. They're best buds w/ Musk, Thiel, Kushner & half the Republicans & Trump admins.
Biden broke them by releasing our national reserves and kept gas prices from blowing up. He made $60 billion profit after replacing those reserves. Biden broke OPEC! No MSM wanted to cover that story.
He didn't break them. W/ Russia sanctioned, they sold to others & are still price gouging us now. He did keep a recession from happening that business titans wanted to occur & tried to make happen, though. But Saudis helped Musk buy Twitter, have a deal w/ Kushner, etc. - lot of irons in the fire.
Hedging bets.
Yeah, they're a bigger player who play multiple sides of the fence. Bigger than Iran, which is struggling & sanctioned. NK is entirely dependent on the largesse of China though they are cozying up to Russia too obviously. We're now handing over the Pacific to China while Trump obsesses on the Artic.
This need not occur again.
Probably good for Ukraine, Trump was gonna sell them out to the Russians. At least he won't have OPSEC on that and they'll see it coming.
Hell, probably their half-competent reporters, too. It's starting to look like they might not need to even have their intelligence agencies bother.
1/2 We knew already that Trump and his people are only actors playing their official roles. Laughing at them here is like criticizing an actor playing Hamlet for a lack of real swordsmanship skills. But the fragment about extorting Europe is interesting. Nice to have this officially on record.
2/2 BTW, in an old movie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_A... poor illiterate Mexican villagers thought that some Western movie described reality. The villagers hired the actors playing the benevolent gunfighters in this movie, to save their village from real bandits. The US is this village today.
Yeah, except in this movie, the actors have a conscience and eventually do everything they can to help the villagers. I don’t see that happening with this bag of bozos
Like looking through floor to ceiling windows.
Hegseth's motto is "Loose lips means more sips" after all.
Gen X emoji incoming!😂
To them. Not you.
🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕 That is my emoji
Well. This kind of kakistocratic nonsense is no small part of why I think Canada has a fighting chance.
It would be funny if your former allies didn’t have to weigh up and prepare for the consequences. Fucking amateurs 🤯🤡🫣
we have reached the emojis-to-celebrate-dropping-bombs portion of US history
Yeah, while it's not the main point, I found that kind of disturbing too. How desensitized you'd have to be to the taking of human life (whether justified or not) to treat it so casually.
That does depict (pun intended) their intellectual competence
second verse, same as the first im sure Tat Boy will get feisty on socmed about it to distract tho
Shadow hearings NOW Dems!!
It’s like a mashup of every Cold War-era spy thriller film and the Keystone Cops.
Three Stooges
Hegseth, Patel and Musk: The Three Stooges
burn after reading
Burn After Reading if it was directed by the Farrelly Brothers
George Smiley sat at his desk, "Yakety Sax" playing in the background.
Inspector Clouseau but without the charm and evil. When the chaos reaches a crescendo we will all see the destruction.
Throw in Get Smart!
Plus Dr. Strangelove
Gentlemen, you can’t text in here!
All it's missing are "vital essences."
There’s no fighting in the Signal War Chat!
Just a watched this yesterday and that line had me rolling!
🤪
I know what part Elon would play!
Appropriate casting!
Plus The Three Stooges!
Pete should try denying women his essence
At least a quarter of them don’t even know why they were added to these top secret communications channels by the people they’re spying on.
The “VP” in the chat was Putin
Accurate
They all suck at national security, but their emoji game is 🔥
We are so vulnerable
Hegseth and Vance make Dumb and Dumber look like geniuses!
This is so stupid it's funny.
The other funny half of this is imagining Jamieson Greer going, "what the fuck, we're bombing the Houthis? Was no-one going to tell me?" and typing frantic Need To Know demands to Hegseth's Signal who's just like "lolwhat, it's 3pm, you know that's way past whiskey o'clock JG"
CNN right now acting like this information just came in.
But her emails…
Projection. They have been projecting for years. Russian playbook stuff.
this has nothing whatsoever to do with russia, which did not invent hypocrisy
You are correct. Russia did not invent hypocrisy. The Greeks did and the coined the phrase "hypocrisy" meaning stage acting or a pretense means setting a scenario where you pretend that you are something that you are not. Projection is what Russia is doing; accuse those of what you are doing.
you are a colossal idiot
I'm a colossal Humanist.